"It is now obvious that the jury we picked was a bad jury. We demand to have a new trial so we can pick another jury that may be more hospitable to our arguments."
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Samsung Demands Another Retrial, Says 'No Reasonable Jury' Could Have Sided With Apple
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Yes, and Huawei too. Huawei has a history of copying Cisco routers. I believe they're de facto banned in the US.
Apple should never have been awarded a patent for rounded rectangles, and it should have been invalidated by now. This appeal was always going to take place as up till now the jury’s verdict has never been appealed, only the amounts they have calculated.
The lawyer fees have to be approaching the $500M level. How many shots at the case does Samsung get?
Conversation between an iPhone X user and Samsung Galaxy S8 user
iPhone user: The new iPhone X is now out
Galaxy user: Oh ok what's new?
iPhone user: It's got facial recognition
Galaxy user: We've had that for four years. What else is new?
iPhone user: it's got wireless charging
Galaxy user: We've had that for the last two years. What else is new?
iPhone user: It's got water resistance
Galaxy user: We've had that for the last three years. What else is new?
iPhone user: It has the best display available
Galaxy user: The screen is supplied by Samsung....
iPhone user: What am I paying all this money for then?
Galaxy user: To fund Apple's drive to catch up with Samsung.
After all these years and Apple has won a grand total of zero dollars from Samsung. Maybe Apple needs a lawyer upgrade. Their current lawyer team are like toothless attack dogs.
Very few. Even my wife, who isn't a car person, can get the brand car at a glance. Sometimes she struggles with the model if she only sees it from one angle.
This is not how we were taught that the court system works in school.
You have your first trial in a normal court. You appeal to an appeals court for your second trial. Then you appeal for your third and final trial before the supreme court.
We've already had over three trials for this at this point, haven't we? Are any of the original people involved even going to be around by the time this thing finally ends? I feel like most of the engineers from both companies must have surely moved on to other companies (or retired) by now...
You have your first trial in a normal court. You appeal to an appeals court for your second trial. Then you appeal for your third and final trial before the supreme court.
We've already had over three trials for this at this point, haven't we? Are any of the original people involved even going to be around by the time this thing finally ends? I feel like most of the engineers from both companies must have surely moved on to other companies (or retired) by now...
This suit was for phones made years before any of this. Maybe its possible samsung ripped off apple and then in later years, they became the company with better new features first. Funny post though, they should have used this in their closing arguments
No it won’t work like this. Just because you hate your best friend’s cousin because he’s a jackass doesn’t mean you gotta hate your best friend too.
Actually it is, there are n other companies that can make the parts Apple needs in the wuantity and quality nedded. Otherwise Apple would have switched years ago.
Exactly. This guy doesn't get that he'd be buying an inferior phone if they did that.
Oh FFS just pay the money and MOVE MONEY N!
Last month, a jury ruled that Samsung must pay Apple $539 million for violating Apple design patents as part of a legal battle that has spanned years, but the jury's ruling apparently won't be the end of the dispute between the two companies.
Samsung last week filed an appeal (via CNET) asking the U.S. District Court in San Jose to either reduce the judgment against it to $28 million or hold a new trial. Samsung filed the motion on the grounds that "no reasonable jury could have found that any of Apple's asserted design patents was applied to Samsung's entire accused smartphones."
The jury's ruling, says Samsung, is "excessive" and the evidence "supports a verdict of no more than $28.085 million," which was the amount Samsung advocated for during the trial.
The latest Samsung v. Apple trial was held to redetermine the amount of damages Apple had to pay after Samsung appealed to the Supreme Court and said that the original damages award, set at $399 million after several appeals, was a disproportionate sum for the design violation.
During the trial, the jury was tasked with deciding whether the damages should be based on the total value of the iPhone or if Samsung's penalty should be based on just the elements of the iPhone that it copied.
Apple argued for $1 billion in damages based on the total design of the iPhone, while Samsung argued that it should pay a far lesser amount, the aforementioned $28 million. The jury split the difference and awarded Apple $539 million, which happened to be a far larger penalty than the original $399 million damages ruling from 2015.
When the jury's ruling was announced in May, Samsung promised to appeal in a statement: "Today's decision flies in the face of a unanimous Supreme Court ruling in favor of Samsung on the scope of design patent damages. We will consider all options to obtain an outcome that does not hinder creativity."
Samsung also filed a separate motion at the same time asking the court to order Apple to reimburse it for a $145 million payment that Samsung submitted for a now-invalidated multi-touch patent.
Apple has 10 days to respond to Samsung's new filing, with a hearing scheduled for July 26.
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"no reasonable jury"? lol anybody with a brain knows that Samsung straightup copied Apple.