Yep you’re right, the bendable ipad with lte is a good example and it also comes in cheaper than the Samsung fold.
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Samsung Developing Additional Folding Smartphones, May Offer Free Display Replacements for Alleged Crease Defect in Current Model
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Yes it is massively thick, which is a problem. I assume the durability will improve, battery tech will improve and yes it will possibly get thinner. Maybe it won't at all. Maybe its a dead end completely and foldable screens are only good for wearables or other implementations we haven't even seen yet.
I will clarify, I would never EVER buy this thing. I am just interested in the idea and respect Samsung for at least putting it out there.
I've stuck with the iPhone SE primarily because I use my phone one handed as a presence and that means resting it in my palm and being able to get my thumb to the top left corner, or at to the furthest top left required touch points (notifications centre etc). But different people have different requirements. The majority seem not to care about one handed usage.
If Apple had clearly specified that the phone was a concept phone not for mass consumption that they were selling for people who wanted to try the 'future' then probably not.... It is a hard one though because A) Apple doesn't release tech this early in development and B) because Apple does tend to not admit to problems.
Let's keep in mind that Samsung hasn't officially announced any of this, it is not confirmed and nobody has the phone to prove it.
Well there you go. They do the same thing.
This is what the wider throw I discussed earlier would solve.
Absolute rubbish.
Not really. The OS and apps aren't designed to accommodate it so it will get in the way.
One of the negatives of these new folding devices that is not being discussed is the fact that the complex hinges they need to work will very likely negate the water resistance that we’ve come to expect.
And regardless of whether the screen is plastic or glass, imagine what will happen to any of the inward folding screens when a bit of sand or other unwanted pocket gunk gets between the screens, or even the hinge.
And regardless of whether the screen is plastic or glass, imagine what will happen to any of the inward folding screens when a bit of sand or other unwanted pocket gunk gets between the screens, or even the hinge.
I pray to God you are right but equally what’s my motivation to buy yet another Apple device when Face ID is so gash at present?
Example: this morning I was in darkish light in bed. Not pitch black by any means. I see the red dot telling me Face ID is scanning but nada, no authentication.
That is a ginormous step back from Touch ID. Not a single step but multiple strides.
I don't understand the folding phone phenomenon at all.
Just not interested. Perhaps once they're out somebody will be able to show me why I want one.
About the pixels in the area of the fold, have they found a way to keep those pixels heated so that there is no risk as the phone ages?
You've got to do something about that, or they'll just stop working or, worse, the display will look like it has a seam or crack after a while, right?
Just not interested. Perhaps once they're out somebody will be able to show me why I want one.
About the pixels in the area of the fold, have they found a way to keep those pixels heated so that there is no risk as the phone ages?
You've got to do something about that, or they'll just stop working or, worse, the display will look like it has a seam or crack after a while, right?
What is really impressive about it? We've seen displays fold before. The question is, does it solve a problem or create more?
Do you have difficulty completing reading a sentence?
I said they do the same thing,BUT Under display means it is under display so bezel issue is solved.do you understand now?
the whole reason Apple abandoned finger print sensor was because they didn't want bezel and they couldn't put in under display.there are no point in replying to you buddy, you are a blind fanboy and do not want to accept the reality,Samsung did a great job with S10 series, the design, hardware and features are innovative and superior too Apple's greedy, lazy work with the Xs / Xr series.
it's not a matter of opinion, it's a fact.hence why this article and other posts here about new iPhones poor sale and frequent price drops.
I can see Apple using under display finger print sensor in newer iPhones soon, and I'm pretty sure they will copy and follow Samsung's lead and implement features like reverse charging, triple camera, etc in few years time
You don't buy many Apple products then?
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i9 2018 MacBook Pro?
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That's the thing, Apple usually isn't first into any market, however when they enter a market, they bring a level of refinement which devastates competition. Tough to argue that the strategy has been unsuccessful.
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Samsung is experimenting with multiple folding designs to figure out what kind of fold works best with a smartphone/tablet hybrid.Samsung's vertically folding smartphone is set to be released in late 2019 or early 2020, with the company currently working on mockups to finalize the device's design. Right now, the smartphone has an extra screen on the outside, but it may be removed.
Is this not an admission that they rushed to market as usual? They likely were well aware of Huawei’s push to market and so both wanted to do it first rather than do it right.
lol, go ahead and make one in your spare time and show us just how unimpressive it is.
Apple fails with proven, mature technology.
Apple can't even get a bloody laptop KEYBOARD or a laptop SCREEN right. God knows what they would do with a new technology like this....
The current foldable displays are a step backward and Samsung has already admitted their first offering sucks. This has nothing to do with anyone being able to make it themselves.
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What's wrong with the i9 MacBook Pro?
It's something completely new, there are bound to be issues and I welcome some redress even if it is in this form. Apple should have engaged in exhaustive usability testing with the folding iPhone 6, (some thing they already had loads of experience with).
Sort of curious where your strong opinion comes from
You present as fact, what is only your opinion, based on how you interact with your phone. Cool. I have a different perspective (pun intended). I never interact with my phone while its laying flat on a table. I always pick it up to look at it. I did this before FaceId, I will do this after FaceId. It's just how I interact with my phone. For me FaceID is a perfect fit. It works as I already do. I don't have to worry about how clean my hands are, if I am wearing a glove, or if I just got out of the shower. I don't have to search for a button or particular area of the phone. My phone just turns on like its magic. I look, and it's on! almost every single time. Magic I tell you. And yep, had the iPhone X on release day, and currently sport the Max. Would not trade it for anything, even if my magic apple garden followed me.
People are different and like different things. That's a fact. Apparently you want a TouchId. Another fact. FaceID is annoying is just your opinion.
I actually like the unfolding thing, like many ago with the razor. I don’t see a reason why I shouldn’t unfold constantly, like a book.
I like this foldable screens a lot, and it should be 2 hands with menus left and right - a real 2 hand phone ... would be a nice concept change to the singles handed paradigm nowadays, which isn’t true anymore anyways
Now would you look at that? Samsung acknowledging they have a screen issue and offering free fixes. 3rd Generation iPad Pros bend easy and ship bent, but Apple tells their customers, "Its not a defect". Pretty much saying, "DEAL WITH IT!" This is one reason why I will not buy any Apple devices.
The least mechanical parts, the better. I'm not interested in a phone that folds, specially because plastic displays feels like a 2001 Compaq iPAQ. No thanks.
But 10,000 times is not that bad... Folding/unfolding 10 times a day will give you 2.7 years of use before the crease forms.
That's without considering other elements such as the environment (heat, humidity, etc) that may affect the display's lifespan.
For example, will the display turn yellow over time?
Samsung promises a free display replacement to protect their market. Let's see what happens next. After all it's just an open prototype, probably one of many to come.
But 10,000 times is not that bad... Folding/unfolding 10 times a day will give you 2.7 years of use before the crease forms.
That's without considering other elements such as the environment (heat, humidity, etc) that may affect the display's lifespan.
For example, will the display turn yellow over time?
Samsung promises a free display replacement to protect their market. Let's see what happens next. After all it's just an open prototype, probably one of many to come.
Came here (late) to say this. People talk about Apple using customers as beta testers—they don't have anything on this. Already talking about defects on $2000 devices before they even ship? Wow. This is why Apple waits until things are ready. Not always perfect, but ready.
A create depends on minimal radius.
If you exceed the minimum radius, yes you get a crease.
if you don't you may not.
I hardly think Samsung have said their first offering sucks. Point me to a source if they have.
And if they are such a step backwards then why am I reading all over the Internet how excited the industry as a whole is about them?
There is a difference between being excited about the future and having the first offering objectively be a beta product that has tons of flaws. It's CLEARLY too thick, too heavy, plastic screen already has creasing, clunky design, no one-handed use, etc etc.
You "reading all over the Internet" is not data.
Samsung wouldn't even allow touching, indicating further it's not ready and has major issues. They always have recently said they are already working on an alternative due to screen crease issues, ridiculous small front screen, and folding the wrong way.
https://9to5google.com/2019/03/06/samsung-galaxy-fold-durability-designs-report/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-be-preparing-more-foldable-smartphone-models