Samsung Executive Cites Anti-Apple Ad as "Tipping Point" for Brand

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    In an interview with Australian newspaper AdNews (via The Next Web), Samsung Australia's chief marketing officer Arno Lenior offered retrospect on the Korean company's 2012 "Next Big Thing" ad that mocked Apple loyalists, saying that it signaled Samsung "coming-of-age" as a brand, and "marked a tipping point" for the company's standing in consumer electronics globally. Lenior also stated that Samsung still sees itself as a "challenger" and invests heavily in research and development to stay ahead.

    Earlier this month, a survey from the American Customer Satisfaction Index (ACSI) ranked Samsung's Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note II phones ahead of Apple's iPhone 5 in customer satisfaction. Since 2011, both Samsung and Apple have been in a long, ongoing legal battle over patent and design issues, with the first U.S. trial awarding $1 billion to Apple in 2012. However, a judge voided nearly half of that amount in March, and a new trial between the two companies is set for November of this year.

    Article Link: Samsung Executive Cites Anti-Apple Ad as "Tipping Point" for Brand
  2. CrazyForApple macrumors 6502a


    Dec 31, 2012
    Buffalo, NY
    The only thing that they didn't mention was that the ad sucked and IMO didn't really help Samsung at all
  3. scaredpoet, Aug 13, 2013
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    scaredpoet macrumors 604


    Apr 6, 2007
    Got that, people?

    If you like Samsung, you're a "Samsung fan."

    If you like anything else (and by anything else we mean Apple, because evidently no other platforms or vendors exist). you're just a fanboy. You're also wrong.
  4. 3282868, Aug 13, 2013
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    3282868 macrumors 603

    Jan 8, 2009
    Some have taken personal offense to my comment, thus I edited it to make certain opinions expressed are not mine. This particular comment is merely one incident pertaining to a family member. I have never had a problem with AppleCare, I love it and swear by it. In fact, Apple replace 2 24" LED LCD's that were problematic for ~2 years with brand new 2 27" LED LCD's, refunded my AppleCare and gave me free AppleCare for the new displays. That is stellar service.

    Surprisingly, a good amount of friends and family [by good amount I mean 3-4, which is actually a small amount, bad word choice] are considering switching mobile platforms. Most cite their opinion of Apple's lack of customer service with their devices; not their "entitlement." Many [some] paid monthly insurance [through their carrier and one with AppleCare] and were passed back and forth between the carrier [in this instance Sprint] and Apple, or Apple refused to replace the device with AppleCare as the Genius and management claimed the damage was not covered. [In regards to Sprint and Apple], neither took responsibility; Sprint claimed replacements need to be approved by Apple and Apple claimed Sprint is required to approve the replacement via paperwork, etc.*

    *Let me clarify, this was their opinion, not mine. I have had nothing but great customer service from Apple. I repeat, I love Apple and never speak ill of Apple.

    When carriers approved a replacement, for some reason Apple gave my brother a difficult time and insisted Spring replace it. Again, this happened to my brother, in no way does this reflect my opinions of Apple.

    I tried to explain [to my brother], [that] moving [i.e. switching to another phone] would be more costly as purchased [Apple] apps (and media?) would be unusable, and syncing difficult [I do not know for certain]. Makes you realize how tied into Apple you become [not a bad statement on Apple, this applies to all carriers, I love Apple].

    Ok, I hope this clarifies my comment. I apologize if my comment insulted Apple, you and/or your mother. I love Apple. :)
  5. bbplayer5, Aug 13, 2013
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    bbplayer5 macrumors 68030

    Apr 13, 2007
    Got any statistics to back that up other than your opinion?

    Am I the only one around here with an unbias opinion of all phones? lol The Galaxy s4 is an incredible device, as is the HTC One. Apple has some huge ground to make up, and the name "Apple" isnt going to cut it anymore.
  6. Jack97 macrumors regular


    Nov 30, 2010
    yep, it was a tipping point indeed. When we all realised how annoying Samsung can be! :D
  7. scaredpoet macrumors 604


    Apr 6, 2007
    You should probably have explained to them that if they bought insurance through their carrier, it's the carrier that handles the replacement, not Apple. If they bought AppleCare, then Apple takes care of it.

    If they had done the same thing with a Samsung GS4, Samsung would have told them to get lost, just like Apple did.
  8. spiderman0616, Aug 13, 2013
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    spiderman0616 macrumors 68030


    Aug 1, 2010
    Do they though? Just because a company says they're better does not mean that reflects in sales. A small subset of nerds will buy the S4 because they're drooling over its innards. But the reality is that the iPhone 5 has officially beaten the crap out of the S4 sales wise, and we're about to get a refresh in less than a month.

    This happens every year at this time where there has been a lull in new products from Apple. The tide is about to turn yet again.
  9. Jack97 macrumors regular


    Nov 30, 2010
    I find it amusing how samsung knocks the company from which 90% of their "ideas" come from...
  10. Matthew Yohe macrumors 68020

    Oct 12, 2006
    Good luck getting better customer service with anyone else.
  11. scaredpoet macrumors 604


    Apr 6, 2007
    Yeah, you keep telling yourself about how unbiased you are. :rolleyes:

    The GS4 is a great device and so is the HTC One. But they appeal to different tastes. And when you ask a fandroid specifically what Apple must do to get ahead, they just repeat what you just said. "Apple needs to innovate" doesn't cut it anymore, unless you specifically state what you feel is "innovation."
  12. Diesel79 macrumors member

    Aug 3, 2013
    The main reason I switched my phone and computer to Apple was their customer support. I have friends who have used iPhones and macs for a while and heard first hand just how good Apple's customer service is. I've now seen that myself & after my previous phone which was an S3, there's no way on Gods green earth I'd choose Samsung over Apple, I don't care if Samsung offered free lap dances for life with their devices. I've been very impressed with both Apple's products and their customers service, which, in my opinion is second to none.

    Yes Samsung make some very impressive phones, but, They just flood their devices with endless gimmicks that hardly ever stick around. People keep bashing Apple for not keeping up with Samsung on the new features front. Well, for me Apple already have a great product in the iPhone and if it ain't broke don't fix it.
  13. Tsuius macrumors regular

    Jul 4, 2007
    Apple's customer service is world class and there is no other company that comes close (same sung is far far behind).
  14. ChristIsLORD macrumors member

    Jul 29, 2011
    The CMO using "fanboy" is extremely unprofessional and almost demeaning. I expect that type of language from internet forums but not a professional.
  15. nekonari, Aug 13, 2013
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    nekonari macrumors member

    Nov 27, 2012
    Washington, DC
    LOL Like anyone can be really unbiased on these comments section.

    Apple's products are good. As long as they don't cave to public opinion (from "unbiased" Android "fanboys", or Apple "fans" alike), they'll keep being good for me.
  16. Tsuius macrumors regular

    Jul 4, 2007
    All the same sung ads have done for me is turned me off from buying anything made by them (this includes buying for my IT department). It's one thing to make fun of a brand and another to make fun of its users.
  17. logantyler macrumors newbie


    Aug 4, 2013
    Most people use phones for Facebook, Twitter, messaging,the camera and Internet. The iPhone and Galaxy S4 can both do this. The average consumer can do all the things they need on both phones. Samsung just implements cheap gimmicks that no one needs, or rarely works, to make up for "innovation."


    You're quite right. Can these companies just acknowledge that some like apple products?
  18. bbeagle macrumors 68040


    Oct 19, 2010
    Buffalo, NY
    My friends who have non-Apple phones are all Apple haters. They think that Apple is trying to take over the world, and it's awful to be stuck with them, and Apple is way behind in everything.

    My friends who have Apple phones are mostly people who have come from the Android world, and didn't like it, are not biased, and chose Apple. There are a few Apple zealots too.

    The Samsung S4 fans don't understand that size is not the be-all-end-all. I would be EMBARASSED to talk to someone holding up something the size of a paperback book to my ear, and I laugh to myself when I see some of these non-Apple phones that are huge. My main use for a phone is still using it as a phone, and use my iPad as a PDA. I don't want to use the same device for both - just like I'm not toasting bread in my oven. I have one device for toasting my bread (toaster), and another device for everything else.

    I can completely understand Samsung S4 fans who use their phone for texting , tweeting, surfing... yes, the larger size is better. But I'm never on my phone for long periods of time doing that. When I'm out and about, my phone is in my pocket. I get the occasional text to look at, and call to receive or place, and the size is better being smaller. When I get to the office, I use my PC for internet things, and at home at night, I use my iPad for internet things. People are different in how they want to be connected. Apple is losing the war in some segments, but winning in others.
  19. aristobrat macrumors G4

    Oct 14, 2005

    The iPhone comes with a one-year Apple hardware warranty. In addition, some carriers resell monthly insurance, on behalf of insurance companies like Asurion.

    If your brother wanted a replacement from Apple, under Apple's one-year hardware warranty, the carrier has nothing to do with that process. Your brother calls AppleCare (to arrange a replacement via FedEx), or goes into an Apple Store (and gets a replacement at the Genius Bar). The carrier has absolutely no say-so in a matter involving Apple warranty.

    If your brother wanted a replacement from his monthly warranty, Apple has nothing to do with that process. Once the insurance company approves his claim, it's up to the insurance company to provide the replacement. Not Apple.

    Apple should never be involved with a claim involving a monthly-warranty company, and vice-versa, so how the heck is there a situation where "neither take responsibility"? :confused:
  20. rmwebs macrumors 68040

    Apr 6, 2007
    Nope, you're not. I've got an iPhone and a bunch of Android devices. I don't consider any of them to be 'the best'. The iPhones been pretty piss poor for the last couple of years, the only thing holding it together at the moment is the OS. The hardware really isn't all that great (although I do love the camera on the 4/5).
  21. PracticalMac macrumors 68030


    Jan 22, 2009
    Houston, TX
    Battle between Galaxy and iPhone is ON!

    Battle between Galaxy and rest of Android world is over, and Samsung is undisputed champ!
    Google, subsidiary of Samsung.
  22. Crzyrio, Aug 13, 2013
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    Crzyrio macrumors 65816

    Jul 6, 2010
    The HTC One is an incredible device, the S4 is just another device imo.

    I am unbiased but at the same time you have to look at the entire experience and not just the phone.

    Apple has an eco system un matched by any other. I can give you a million advantages of this eco system but we all know about it already.

    Customer service, no one can even touch them lol. I have gone into an apple store, walk out with a new phone.

    My friend has an S3, walks into the new Samsung service center we have here. The wait time is 2-3 weeks to get your phone back and no loaner phone :p

    I 1000% agree that add is what made Samsung though. And the fact that the S3 was the first real competitor to the iPhone.
  23. bossxii macrumors 68000

    Nov 9, 2008
    Kansas City
    Wait... there is no need to bash strippers now! Come on, free for life? I can always carry a 2nd phone if that's the case lol. :)
  24. Sodner, Aug 13, 2013
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    Sodner macrumors 68020


    Jan 12, 2011
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Ya we know they have a BIG SCREEN. Wooooo! :eek:
  25. Chaos123x macrumors 68000

    Jul 8, 2008
    Wow samsung has really come a long way. I remember when they used to make pirated SNES games back in the day. I think Samsung made more copies of Donkey Kong Country then Nintendo did.

    But yeah, it's great that Apple has competition. But me personally I'm done with whole smart phone fad, yeah I still own one and use it all the time, but I really don't have excitement about a new one coming out. They are all pretty much the same now, just give me one with a battery that lasts longer.

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