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Samsung Galaxy S 4 Benchmarks Nearly Twice as Fast as iPhone 5
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You should see what it's like in the Alternatives to iOS forum section in general bud. Scary
And in the future the majority will still only be using a phone for Angry Birds XLHDiRes, text messages and looking at Facebook and Twitter.
I find all these performance comparisons fairly arbitrary. The majority of people barely notice that their device is performing better or worse than any other. I don't know a single person who bases their phone choice on the performance of the processor.
Umm do you mean what if the S4 was slower? My hunch is that it would run slower. But it's not. So it doesn't.
Oh and another side of it could be: if you put the iPhone's dual core 1.3 processor to task doing all of the things an android phone is able to then it would get crushed! But of course it doesn't run android. And doesn't get crushed.
I think everyone can agree on the following:
-iPhone uses its resources waaay better than Android due to unified software and hardware design
-as a result android phones are beefed up much higher than iPhones
-S4 has a LOT more computing power which looks really good in benchmarks (especially ones that utilize all the cores) but the difference won't be as much in real world
-S4 will still be faster than iPhone 5
-iPhone 5s will likely be on par if not exceed performance of S4, but fans of each will find different styled benchmarks to say that either one is the best
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If you're gonna come in a thread like this you better come spitting hate! Don't be showing up with your calm uncaring demeanor.
You've been warned
The thing is, whatever they decide to put in the 5S, if they put the EXACT same improvements into an infinitesimally slightly modified case, and called it the iPhone 6, you'd say innovation.
I don't get why people don't understand this.
4S had a dual core processor over single core in the 4.
4S had CDMA and GSM vs picking one in the 4.
4S had a better light sensor and an 8MP Camera vs 5MP.
4S had nearly twice the graphics performance.
4S could shoot 1080P video vs 720P.
4S had Siri.
Yet people still moaned about it not being a "revolution".
I bet people wouldn't be moaning if they made a slight redesign to the case and had of called it the iPhone 5.
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I get your point. "I feel Apple has been a bit mediocre with innovation lately so I will switch to Android". I would agree with that only if Android/Samsung/ were offering something radically different. However I feel that smartphones have come to a point of lack of innovation resources.
Either new ideas are still too far away in research process, or they are still too expensive to introduce.
I think wireless charging is a great example: When I first read it I thought: well this is something new, sending charge via wireless!. Then when I found out that you had to keep your phone like REALLY close to the charging base I thought: well this is the same charging system my wireless Braun toothbrush had 2 years ago.
The point here is that Samsung seems to be introducing whatever they come across only to advertise more features. However when you work out a Pareto you find that 80-90% of these features are used only 10-20%.
And both have come with iterations on size. My conclusion is: the format is now very, very close to perfect. Larger format and it goes into phablet, smaller format and you have a 90s phone.
No wonder why Apple is considering other markets. Probably phones will be very similar for some years until the next quantum leap.
If you ask me as a user. I'd love a battery that lasts as long as an early Nokia used to last
Imagine charging your iPhone once a week! That would be a real MOBILE phone It might not seem as very innovative, but for me it would be a WOW feature.Best regards!
I agree completely. Several days of battery life is where the next battle should be fought.
For me the experience of lags and delays disappeared with the 4S. Now that I'm on a 5 the stuff that's still less than perfect has to do with anything but processor speed.
But, I guess Apple is forced to be up to speed, otherwise they'll be slaughtered by the press who loves to focus on everything that can be measured.
Unless Apple is able to change the conversations, that is. Steve, where are you now?
So that's why AAPL was up the day after the S4 announcement and up again over 2% yesterday?
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Yep it seems these days if a phone looks the same aesthetically as its predecessor people call it an incremental update. Doesn't matter if the innards are completely different.
This is the biggest thing, ever. Scrolling up/down a web-page in Android is just miserable, and Android users are so used to it they don't even seem to care! So laggy, along with the screen rotation which you often have to wait for what feels like ages for the phone to do (S3 and Galaxy Nexus experience here).
Honestly, if the Android experience were as smooth as the iOS experience, I might consider switching. (I likely wouldn't switch, but at least it would be a consideration).
The potential energy savings this new CPU tech might bring is quite exciting, but we'll have to see once it's out if the big screen counteracts it straight off the bat.
However, I agree with a couple of the others here that battery life should be the next big selling point. Get them back up to lasting a week per charge. Everything else, bar fast affordable data transfer, is already here and faster than we could ever have imagined 10 years ago.
Once they've achieved that battery life, phones will undergo a radical change, like being incorporated into a watch, or embedded under the skin of your hand, or something equally as preposterous. They had touch-screens in Star Trek, for goodness' sake; never thought I'd see that, let alone in my pocket, connected to all the information known to man.
I've got an upgrade coming up, so I'll be going for the S4, simply because I don't like the closed OS of the iPhone. Personal choice just don't like it.
However, I agree with a couple of the others here that battery life should be the next big selling point. Get them back up to lasting a week per charge. Everything else, bar fast affordable data transfer, is already here and faster than we could ever have imagined 10 years ago.
Once they've achieved that battery life, phones will undergo a radical change, like being incorporated into a watch, or embedded under the skin of your hand, or something equally as preposterous. They had touch-screens in Star Trek, for goodness' sake; never thought I'd see that, let alone in my pocket, connected to all the information known to man.
I've got an upgrade coming up, so I'll be going for the S4, simply because I don't like the closed OS of the iPhone. Personal choice just don't like it.
I'm not sure I need/want a bigger screen. I prefer something I can easily slip into my pocket and operate with one hand.
However, we do all have different preferences and needs, and just like for an iPad, a MacBook or an iMac, there are options in screen size. So I really do think it wouldn't be much of a stretch for Apple to think of having 2 screen sizes to choose from. They'd have to find a screen size that would not require the format to change (and spare the developers from having to adapt to different dimensions etc.) but that would still offer some choice.
I don't think Apple are going to beat Samsung in specs, however they are great at optimising the software to perfectly complement the hardware and get the most out of it in terms of performance vs power consumption.
One killer feature they need to have is superior battery life. Just as with the iPods and MacBooks, they need to show how much longer the iDevices can last with their control over software and hardware.
Oh please. My Skyrocket doesn't lag at all on ICS when it comes to scrolling.
And when I rotate the phone - it instantly flips around. The rotation might be as nice on iOS because it doesn't "flow" around - it just switches - but it's instantaneous.
Sometimes I feel like people are either making crap up or speaking in such hyperbole because the facts aren't "cool" enough.
Dear Mac Rumors, why did you place this story as a main top story on the front page, then shuffle it off to the side??
Anyway, my issue with the iPhone is it's size, I can't believe all these stupid 5" size phones, fair enough with the Note but now the first Notes size is the standard for all these halo Android devices! I struggle to use my iPhone 5 one handed whilst walking the dog etc, or just walking. I REALLY hope Apple either ditch the stupid end bits or go back to a 3.5" screen say on this rumoured cheaper iPhone.
I think it was a sad day Apple gave in to peer pressure on it's screen size, but again if they drastically reduce the size of the end bits and even drop the home button, implement a software solution to replace it, and I would be more then happy with the 4" screen.
I just hope Apple gets of this stupid one size fits all idea, it's VERY old fashioned now, give me a 3.5" retina or a 4" with no end bits, give everyone else a 5" or whatever screen, mind you I wonder how much they would charge for a 5" iPhone!!!
Anyway, my issue with the iPhone is it's size, I can't believe all these stupid 5" size phones, fair enough with the Note but now the first Notes size is the standard for all these halo Android devices! I struggle to use my iPhone 5 one handed whilst walking the dog etc, or just walking. I REALLY hope Apple either ditch the stupid end bits or go back to a 3.5" screen say on this rumoured cheaper iPhone.
I think it was a sad day Apple gave in to peer pressure on it's screen size, but again if they drastically reduce the size of the end bits and even drop the home button, implement a software solution to replace it, and I would be more then happy with the 4" screen.
I just hope Apple gets of this stupid one size fits all idea, it's VERY old fashioned now, give me a 3.5" retina or a 4" with no end bits, give everyone else a 5" or whatever screen, mind you I wonder how much they would charge for a 5" iPhone!!!
Why are you using Android
I'm a geek
Man, I hate those things. Work makes us use those when we want to experience bloat ware
What?
They make you get viruses and have bloatware like crazy.
At this point, most people would rather have better battery life than a faster processor. My 4S is plenty fast enough for me.
1. S releases are always about speed.
2. How is more speed innovation? Sounds to me like you are confused about what it is you want. Or you just want Apple to innovate for the sake of innovating.
I went three minutes into it, and the lag I saw had more to do with it pausing for a second while it loaded up graphics and information from the internet, rather than the processor having to chew through an overly bloated OS.
I've seen similar happen on my iDevices. It's something you barely notice unless you're looking for it.
If this is the horrible lag everyone is talking about around here, then the whole issue is greatly overblown.
First gen iPad owners have tons of trouble with some of the latest apps, or are locked out of them entirely.
You should see what it's like in the Alternatives to iOS forum section in general bud. Scary
The older I get the less tolerance I have to crazy fans.
Not surprised
Actually, this is at least twice as large (in volume) as iPhone 5, so there is PLENTY room inside to place larger CPU unit as well as more memory and everything else it needs to be (arithmetically!) faster.
In the same time, the size is it's weakest point (IMHO), as the same iPhone 5 seems to be almost too large for me as the phone (i'd wish to have some thinner and lighter 4S like device).
However, everything said before about Android (un)efficiency seems to be 100% true for me: got Sony xperia Sola (dual-core and other blha-blha-blha), which is WAY TO LAGGY as even iPhone 3GS!!! I can wait for some 20-30 seconds after tapping it's Phone app icon to make a call, if there is some music playing in background and so on common tasks... I have really dropped about 10-15% of calls with it by that reason, just because i was sliding the "answer" button, and waiting till the call been ended up by the caller (((
Actually, this is at least twice as large (in volume) as iPhone 5, so there is PLENTY room inside to place larger CPU unit as well as more memory and everything else it needs to be (arithmetically!) faster.
In the same time, the size is it's weakest point (IMHO), as the same iPhone 5 seems to be almost too large for me as the phone (i'd wish to have some thinner and lighter 4S like device).
However, everything said before about Android (un)efficiency seems to be 100% true for me: got Sony xperia Sola (dual-core and other blha-blha-blha), which is WAY TO LAGGY as even iPhone 3GS!!! I can wait for some 20-30 seconds after tapping it's Phone app icon to make a call, if there is some music playing in background and so on common tasks... I have really dropped about 10-15% of calls with it by that reason, just because i was sliding the "answer" button, and waiting till the call been ended up by the caller (((