Samsung Galaxy S5 to Include Home Button with Integrated Fingerprint Sensor

[pmz]

Let me get this straight...

Apple released the 5S with home button + fingerprint sensor.

Samsung will now release the S5 with home button + fingerprint sensor.

I don't get how this absurdity is allowed to continue. Can't Apple get an injunction to block this stupidity while the court fleshes it out? I don't understand how such embarrassingly obvious copying is allowed to exist.

This is not to say that Samsung is not allowed to deal in fingerprint technology, but it does not take a genius to understand that releasing a product entitled the S5 with a home button + fingerprint sensor is an attempt to leverage the popularity of a competing product through identity theft.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Let me get this straight...

Apple released the 5S with home button + fingerprint sensor.

Samsung will now release the S5 with home button + fingerprint sensor.

I don't get how this absurdity is allowed to continue. Can't Apple get an injunction to block this stupidity while the court fleshes it out? I don't understand how such embarrassingly obvious copying is allowed to exist.

This is not to say that Samsung is not allowed to deal in fingerprint technology, but it does not take a genius to understand that releasing a product entitled the S5 with a home button + fingerprint sensor is an attempt to leverage the popularity of a competing product through identity theft.

As long as they use a different method than Apple, then I think they are in the clear.

 

[brinary001]

Yup...us old people sure are dumb...yup...yup...

Lucky for us there are some really smarty young people to tell us that, and help us to cross the street...yup...yup...




***leaves to wipe up drool and change diaper***




BTW: Does Samsung "copying" a device feature diminish your device?

Woah woah woah. You're kind of all over the place there, buddy. First, I never set a definitive age for "old", I just said old. You may just assume because I'm 20 I think old begins at middle age or perhaps even younger; I don't. In fact, I don't have any exact age that starts the old ages. I consider someone old if they act like it. Not keeping up with technology would certainly be a big bullet point counted against them. You seem to be fine in that department, however, so I wouldn't worry too much about us "smarty young people" thinking you're old. Second, I never made any mention of either device's features, just their names. Which, by the way, included BOTH smartphone makers because they happen to have reversible titles in this current generation. I could care less for iOS or Android. I use WP8. Think very carefully before you generalize someone off of a silly comment on the Internet...

 

[apolloa]

There's nothing wrong with a pin of course, but I suspect that as these technologies mature (fingerprint and retina scanning), they will become widely adopted by everything from banks to retailers, and pretty well everything in between, where it will be practical.

And not necessarily because it will be better for us --no doubt it will be more convenient, not having to remember multiple or complicated passwords--, but it will allow the issuers of those cards to eliminate billions in fraudulent use.

Yeah but I've seen banks use them to let you access their entrance way's at night to get to the cash machines, and in a town near me the pubs and nightclubs used them to help identify people that caused trouble and were banned from entering. Fingerprint scanners is age old tech, can't see what needs to be matured with it, I guess maybe company's don't want to implement the tech with it's costs involved as their wasn't a need?

But retina scanners are not common for sure, I am waiting for a bank card that stores my bio details for my fingerprint and retina scan, as they have been promising.

The only reason Apple and Samsung are doing this though I suspect is because the EU and American governments have requested they boost mobile tech security a lot, due to theft. So I won't be surprised if every phone ends up with a scanner on it to be honest.
Would be good if the front camera just auto scans your retina instead, but that is some way off yet I would think?

 

[Popeye206]

I'm sooooo freak'n tired of reading all this Samsung vs Apple spew.

For goodness sake… no one's done anything revolutionary with smart phones since the introduction of the iPhone 1.0… All the manufactures are just copying off of each other (Apple included) and making incremental changes.

Apple has proven they can innovate… but it's been a while!

Samsung has proven they can whip out new product faster than others, but there hasn't been any revolutionary product out of them.

Wake me up when ANY company brings us the next REAL revolutionary product.

 

[samcraig]

Let me get this straight...

Apple released the 5S with home button + fingerprint sensor.

Samsung will now release the S5 with home button + fingerprint sensor.

I don't get how this absurdity is allowed to continue. Can't Apple get an injunction to block this stupidity while the court fleshes it out? I don't understand how such embarrassingly obvious copying is allowed to exist.

This is not to say that Samsung is not allowed to deal in fingerprint technology, but it does not take a genius to understand that releasing a product entitled the S5 with a home button + fingerprint sensor is an attempt to leverage the popularity of a competing product through identity theft.

Samsung's last phone was the S4. Before that the S3. Before that, the S1.

How far back does Apple's naming convention go?

Forget fingerprint scanning for a second - are you suggesting that Samsung is trying to cause confusion by having a S5 phone? I'm genuinely asking...

 

[pmz]

Samsung's last phone was the S4. Before that the S3. Before that, the S1.

How far back does Apple's naming convention go?

Forget fingerprint scanning for a second - are you suggesting that Samsung is trying to cause confusion by having a S5 phone? I'm genuinely asking...

You needn't ask that question, as it is what it is. I'm not 'suggesting' anything. I'm pointing out what is.

Regardless of who did what before when....Shamesung is looking to put out a smartphone called the S5 with a fingerprint sensor integrated into the home button. To me, that is enough for legal action.

 

[samcraig]

You needn't ask that question, as it is what it is. I'm not 'suggesting' anything. I'm pointing out what is.

Regardless of who did what before when....Shamesung is looking to put out a smartphone called the S5 with a fingerprint sensor integrated into the home button. To me, that is enough for legal action.

So the S4 without one and the 4S without one should have also been sent to court?

 

[koruki]

Yeah, my friend had one of those. It never worked - my understanding is this type of fingerprint scanner is fundamentally flawed by requiring the user to be too precise in the way they move their finger.

I'm forecasting Samsung botches this badly enough to severely impact their sales this year.

Actually I think you will notice it doesn't need to work. As long as its there the Android users can say they have it as well. That's all they care about, specs on paper, those silly hand gesture and eye ball tracking didn't work on the S4 either but none of them cared.

 

[winston1236]

Sounds like they are borrowing from 10+year old IBM tech. Think I had something like that in a pentium Thinkpad.

Yea I had fingerprint scan tech a loooooooong time ago.

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Actually I think you will notice it doesn't need to work. As long as its there the Android users can say they have it as well. That's all they care about, specs on paper, those silly hand gesture and eye ball tracking didn't work on the S4 either but none of them cared.

source?

 

[bsolar]

Regardless of who did what before when....Shamesung is looking to put out a smartphone called the S5 with a fingerprint sensor integrated into the home button. To me, that is enough for legal action.

Touch ID's patents are not simply about "a fingerprint sensor integrated into the home button", that would be an abstract idea which is not patentable at all. Patents are about a specific way to implement something, and Samsung's implementation is described as being completely different from Touch ID.

About the naming, I don't think Apple or Samsung have a trademark on "5S" or "S5". I think the trademarks are on "Galaxy S" and "iPhone".

 

[WilliamG]

"Retina" doesn't imply a higher sharpness than the competitors. As far as I understand it implies that the single pixels are not discernible by the human eye at the standard viewing distance (which is device-dependent).

Yes, I understand. And I disagree. Apple is basically saying "We all see the same way." Which is nonsense. The HTC One is far, far sharper at standard viewing distance. The difference isn't even subtle.

 

[patseguin]

Well, there's no denying it's a nice looking device. I think it shows about how bezel-less the iPhone 6 could be. I hope the 6 has as similar screen size.

 

[olowott]

okay, so apart from the obvious move samsung wants to do, what else will the phone have ?? :roll eyes:


see nothing else to add to their phone, they already got everything on it

just minor improvements or samcopy

 

[bsolar]

Yes, I understand. And I disagree. Apple is basically saying "We all see the same way." Which is nonsense. The HTC One is far, far sharper at standard viewing distance. The difference isn't even subtle.

There is an interesting explanation of the controversies in the wikipedia article.

 

[ybz90]

It could actually work pretty nicely that way if you slid your finger from left to right, in the same motion to unlock your phone. So basically you go to swipe the words "Swipe to Unlock" and it scans your fingerprint too. Let's wait and see what they actually do before we all say its a gimmick like most Samsung features.

However, like most Samsung features, it's half baked. I fail to see how having to swipe like that, with most likely a potential for failed scans (this is how most sensors of this nature work today), is an improvement over just swiping the screen. Certainly it's not much more convenient either than just typing in a PIN code.

 

[tbrinkma]

Claiming that a fingerprint scanner is "copying" is no more "thievery" than including a camera or a volume button. Hardware of in itself is nothing. It's the implementation of a subset of designs that serve a purpose (software) that is the crux of this issue. And since TouchID does little more than unlock a device, any designer could have a field day with its possibilities. I've read that it's possible that this would allow purchases from the Play Store. Wouldn't you love that for the App Store?

I hate to tell you this, but the folks with an iPhone 5S *ALREADY* have the option to allow the use of TouchID for App Store purchases.

It's actually quite handy for those of us with long passwords on our iTunes accounts.

If and when that occurs and Samsung is the first to have the fingerprint scanner to allow this, at what point do we sound the "yeah well, Apple implements it better and that's all that matters" horn?

So much for your whole "...and Samsung is the first..." hypothetical.

 

[SeattleMoose]

This is "karma" for outsourcing our manufacturing.

Now the "copycat" genie is out of the bottle. And the only way to prevent Asian companies from copying, is to move manufacturing back to the USA.

Sadly, the fat cats who made the decision that caused all of this...they all got their mansions/fancy cars/etc. .... and could care less. Yes, they won.

 

[Bryant101]

Samsung's last phone was the S4. Before that the S3. Before that, the S1.

How far back does Apple's naming convention go?

Forget fingerprint scanning for a second - are you suggesting that Samsung is trying to cause confusion by having a S5 phone? I'm genuinely asking...

Lets see. Samsung Galaxy S came out in 2010 and Apple started using letters after each iPhone version starting with iPhone 3GS in 2008. The iPhone 4S comes out in Oct, 2011 and Galaxy S2 in May, 2011. Fast forward to now and Samsung's Galaxy new models are released after Apple's new iPhones but the model #s match.

I am fairly curtain Samsung knew what Apple's naming convention was going to be (since they were a major parts supplier) and emulated it.

Now it seems it is a monkey see monkey do for Samsung. Samsung even pumping out devices according to Apple rumors (ie Large tablet, smart watch, etc, etc..). Not to say Samsung does not produce good hardware in their top of the line products but there is no denying Samsung is a copy company.

 

[nzalog]

Shameless-ung

 

[samcraig]

This is "karma" for outsourcing our manufacturing.

Now the "copycat" genie is out of the bottle. And the only way to prevent Asian companies from copying, is to move manufacturing back to the USA.

Sadly, the fat cats who made the decision that caused all of this...they all got their mansions/fancy cars/etc. .... and could care less. Yes, they won.

So you're saying that if the iPhone was manufactured in the US - no Asian company could copy the iPhone?

Where's the logic in that?

 

[Rogifan]

TouchID has been a POS. Maybe Samsung will implement it better.

Better yet, it'd be nice if Apple actually fixes TouchID (disable the learning feature)

Hmm...works for me 90-95% of the time.

 

[aerok]

Not surprising. You do know that 'Samsung' means 'copy' in Korean right?

No it doesn't, learn to use a translator.

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Yet another reason why Samsucks.

Biggest con job POS phones, and I know this from experience. No wonder they needed the largest marketing budget of all time to brainwash their zombies into buying literal secondrate imitation crap.

Calm down, phone is not out yet. Don't get super angry over a rumor.

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Hmm...works for me 90-95% of the time.

I have very moist hands and it's still very reliable for me.

 

[samcraig]

Lets see. Samsung Galaxy S came out in 2010 and Apple started using letters after each iPhone version starting with iPhone 3GS in 2008. The iPhone 4S comes out in Oct, 2011 and Galaxy S2 in May, 2011. Fast forward to now and Samsung's Galaxy new models are released after Apple's new iPhones but the model #s match.

I am fairly curtain Samsung knew what Apple's naming convention was going to be (since they were a major parts supplier) and emulated it.

Now it seems it is a monkey see monkey do for Samsung. Samsung even pumping out devices according to Apple rumors (ie Large tablet, smart watch, etc, etc..). Not to say Samsung does not produce good hardware in their top of the line products but there is no denying Samsung is a copy company.

Really - so now we're moving the goalpost to include the GS as oppose to just the "S"

Wow.

 

[Rogifan]

I find these finger print scanners bogus to be honest, what's wrong with a pin? You have one for your bank cards and they can be a lot more valuable.

I'm more interested in weather the S5 has a curved display which can show separate information down the side:

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Because it look cool and is something different.

It looks cool and is different, but explain exactly how useful it would be? Or better than what we have today. Notice I said better, not different.