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Samsung Galaxy S5 to Include Home Button with Integrated Fingerprint Sensor
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Is it just me, or has anyone else that's been reading though these replies starting to have a tough time discerning between S5 and 5S? They're just blending together. Reminds me of the concept of saying the same word over and over again and it stops sounding like a real word.
What the **** are you talking about? You essentially just said every touch screen phone there ever was copied the iPhone because it was a touch screen.
Those beta Android phones weren't even made by Samsung.
Oh, and you never answered my question.
That comment makes no sense.
Samsung only supplied Apple with displays, CPUs and memory chips. They didn't supply all the other chips, internal parts, the cases, nor do the assembly of them.
Perhaps you're thinking of Foxconn, who does do the assembly of iPhones, would know about new model details, and who has stated their desire to make their own phones.
Especially since other scanner companies have offered such an idea as an option. E.g. Validity, Inc:
Interestingly, Validity was just bought by Synaptics, who I think has plans to offer a transparent scanner to be cheaply overlaid on a display.
Non-swiping scanners have been around for a very long time. They're just usually much more expensive than using a smaller one and a swipe. Apple bought a design that allowed a flat scanner to be made cheaply.
(OTOH, one advantage to the swipe type is that it can be more or less self-cleaning, depending on its design.)
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As for devices using scanners, the Atrix was by no means the first. Many PDAs had scanners back around the turn of the century and for a few years afterwards. Many used sensors from the company (Authentec) that Apple later bought.
Even the first retina display phone, the 2007 Toshiba G900, had one. (The cool thing about their implementation was that you could also use it for scrolling, and/or could set it to launch a different app per finger. Quick access to mail, camera, etc.)
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And you haven't used the product yet. I don't think any one is in the position to make that conclusion unless you work for Samsung which I highly doubt.
You do know, that when Apple first announced the fingerprint sensor for the 5S, many folk thought it wouldn't work and that it would be "gimmicky", but it turned out alright.
Just like for Samsung, the feature that allows you to scroll through a web page with your eyes; actually works pretty good.
You'll never know unless you try it.
Again, PPI is IRRELEVANT. The only thing you should be concerned with is SPPI (sub pixels per inch). That's why the Galaxy Nexus has 315ppi and looks like utter crap compared to an iPhone 4s/5/5s at 326 ppi, despite the numbers appearing so close.
See here:
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/57467-image/image-comparison-3-centered-text.jpg
Read this:
http://gizmodo.com/5851806/why-the-galaxy-nexus-720p-screen-might-not-be-all-its-cracked-up-to-be
And then note the part about that the Galaxy Nexus is really effectively about 200 ppi. So again, sppi is important.
Now read this (scroll down the page for the correct calculation):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2242458
Note how the HTC One has 811 sppi (!!!)
Note how the Samsung Galaxy S4 has only 623 sppi.
iPhone 4/4s/5/5s?: 565 sppi. And that's why the Galaxy S4 doesn't look much sharper than the recent iPhones.
And YES, the HTC One mops the floor with all of these devices, Apple's included, and has an easily noticeable sharpness difference (especially with small text - it's not even close).
Quite honestly, Apple calling their iPhone 4/4s/5/5s "Retina" displays is quite hilarious, when other devices are so, so much sharper.
There's nothing wrong with a pin of course, but I suspect that as these technologies mature (fingerprint and retina scanning), they will become widely adopted by everything from banks to retailers, and pretty well everything in between, where it will be practical.
And not necessarily because it will be better for us --no doubt it will be more convenient, not having to remember multiple or complicated passwords--, but it will allow the issuers of those cards to eliminate billions in fraudulent use.
yeah lets get some FACTS straight here shall we?
1: Apple did NOT invent the touch fingerprint scanner.
2: Samsung has NOT invented the swipe fingerprint scanner.
3: Neither company can patent these systems.
4: If samsung stick a swipe fingerprint scanner in the home button then they ARE copying apple, in regards to devices on the market that is.
And NEITHER company is the first to place a finger print scanner on a smart phone.
1: Apple did NOT invent the touch fingerprint scanner.
2: Samsung has NOT invented the swipe fingerprint scanner.
3: Neither company can patent these systems.
4: If samsung stick a swipe fingerprint scanner in the home button then they ARE copying apple, in regards to devices on the market that is.
And NEITHER company is the first to place a finger print scanner on a smart phone.
This is the same as if somebody said that Apple copied all previous phones with volume buttons on the side. Sometimes you put things where they are most logical/natural.I think the problem here is your misunderstanding (or willful misrepresentation) of what this "logic" is. Everyone knows the 5s wasn't the first phone to have a fingerprint sensor, hell we talked about it in 9,000 different threads back when it was announced.
But I think we all know where the inspiration for having a fingerprint sensor on the home button of this generation Galaxy phone is coming from. They're well within their right (probably? I don't know if they are violating any patents) to do so. But I seriously doubt it's coincidental
Wait a second here. All posts in here point to Samsung copying apple by having fingerprint sensor. Now you're saying that what apple has is something completely different - so how can somebody copy something that is completely different? and yes, Apple has much better concept of this whole thing that Samsung will appear to have.
If it's not about the home button, and its not about the fingerprint sensor.. what design does Samsung actually copy here then? correct me if i'm wrong but i dont see not one simmilarity in S4 compared so 5(S).
My HP laptop has facial recognition, using the web cam. It's pretty crappy. You have to be at just the right distance, and in the right position.
The HP laptops have password fallback. As long as you remember your password, you won't get locked out -- and at a company, it's probably your domain password.
We have that on a computer at work, & it NEVER works, every time I go to the computer just for fun I swipe my finger & it NEVER worked, it has only gone through once, never again
The fingerprint scanner on my HP laptop works fine (unlike the facial recognition). The only time I've had trouble is after I had been moving for a week, and didn't wear gloves. My fingertips either swelled up, or developed heavy calluses.
But, my iPhone 5S fingerprint scanner didn't work either and I had to retrain it after my fingers went back to normal. Apparently, the iPhone scanner "learns" when you don't complete a successful scan and subsequently enter the passcode.
I'm suggesting Samsung should make their own designs instead of just copying every single move Apple makes delayed by about 3-6 months. That's not innovating. It's COPYING.
Um...OK. If you say so.
So? They're still in the business of making smart phone parts and they're also into making full electronic products. The point is that it's easier for Samsung to get into making smart phones than say Chevrolet because they're already making a large number of the parts themselves whereas someone like Chevrolet isn't making ANY such parts nor is that their field of business where it IS Samsung's business and an increasingly large part of it, it seems. Does that make sense or should I try again?
Given the time frames involved, Samsung doesn't need a prototype. They simply wait for the phone to be released and put any features they like in their models 3-12 months later. There's a delay, but some wars are won by attrition, not sweeping battles. Sure, other companies can emulate the iPhone too, but I'm simply saying Samsung makes some of the most important parts (i.e. displays and CPUs) already so it's obviously been a no-brainer for them to just copy copy copy the iPhone's success. And hot dang it's absolutely WORKED for them (and why they've been getting their arses sued constantly). But none of that matters. Apple has lost the war and doesn't seem to know it yet. It's only a matter of time unless they can reinvent themselves yet again. Without Jobs, that's pretty iffy.
Yeah, I'm sure it's a complete coincidence that Apple put the scanner in the power button and Samsung is doing it less than a year later....
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The swipe finger recognition is awful. Don't do it Samsung! It'll only help cement your reputation as a copycat and for adding mostly gimmicky, useless features to peddle your wares to less sophisticated shoppers who rely on a features checklist to make their purchase decisions.
"Retina" doesn't imply a higher sharpness than the competitors. As far as I understand it implies that the single pixels are not discernible by the human eye at the standard viewing distance (which is device-dependent).
You are correct. But originally, it could be argued that Apple coined the phrase to set their displays apart at being at a better overall resolution.
Bahaha! My mother would do the same!My Mom would walk into a store, ask for an Apple Galaxy 5S, then walk out with something made by Nintendo ...
Who used the S designation on their phone first, Apple or Samsung? Does anyone know, I'm too lazy to look it up.
It's certainly quite incredible. Especially considering that none of this can be considered industry-essential. That's plain old copying of cool features.
The speed at which they bring them points to deeply implanted moles.