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I hope you're kidding - the iPhone 7 Plus already looks like a brick next to the S7 EDGE. Samsung was at least a year ahead of Apple.
Agree.

If you place an iPhone 7 Plus next to the S7 Edge the iPhone is a lot larger.

And yet the physical screen size of both devices are as good as identical.
 
I think this is what you've been waiting for. pic.twitter.com/FvYfsLOy0R - Evan Blass (@evleaks) March 1, 2017

No, I have not.
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Samsung/Android bashers in 3....2.....1

You are so funny and original, get a life.
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But they do, their launch date was already in autumn, way before spring. ;)

But really, one will always be both before and after the other, depending on the perspective. Unless they get together and pick the same date.

Yes, and look what happen to the note 7 when Samsung tried to get ahead of Apples's launch date: a big bang!
 
That phone is DOA. Uses SD 821. As far as looks go every phone looks more or less the same

the SD 821 is an extremely competent CPU. in every day tasks there's zero lag. it can already do everything you'd want to on the phone, and before anyone screams about the A10, in multi-core performance, the 821 benchmarks faster.

And in some cases, instances the 821 seems to do better.
http://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-821-versus-apple-a10-fusion-730146/

Don't get me wrong, the A10 is IMHO the current BEST mobile chip you can buy. But to call the 821 a slouch and a product using it as "DOA" is biased commentary at best.

however,

Nobody is getting the 835 till the S8 is launched. Samsung is currently the FAB for the 835 from Qualcom and part of that deal is that Samsung gets first dibs at the chips.

Which seems weird, because Samsung's Exynos chips aren't bad either and are very very competent chips. I wonder what Samsung is doing with them this time around or if they've finally decided to just stick with QC designs
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Of course the home button and Touch ID are not trivial things to solve for. It's not like iPhone has bezels just for the sake of it.

yeah, what the hell did samsung do with their home button and fingerprint sensor?

I love the idea of nearly borderless phone... But I'm a fan of the hoe button. I like pressing it in. the tactile response is a big deal. I'm really not sold on on-screen controls like google wants on android devices. And I hope samsung wont follow along.

though, my S6 is likely the last Samsung phone I buy.
 
I dunno about the "upper hand"

After the Galaxy S7 was launched last spring... did anyone really talk about it after the first few weeks? There was a big push at first... but then it wasn't news anymore.

Sure... people continued to buy Galaxy S7 throughout the rest of the year. But Apple had no problem selling iPhones. They sold about 200 million units last year.

My point is... I don't think it matters when Apple launches an iPhone related to anyone else's timeline.
If you don't really go to other sites besides MR, then of course you'll hear A LOT MORE about iPhones than the s7 :p
 
It's more copying than not.
It's either copying or it's not. Make up your mind

Sure, buts it's instantly recognizable as a BMW.
That's because the core design ethos hasn't changed but overall there has been a significant change in the overall design yet they are able to retain that BMW look.


Bloatware is crap the cell phone companies used to out on your phone to make money. That is the textbook definition of bloat. Apps the manufacturer installs on the phone that don't sell services that are part of the ecosystem is not bloat. But sure your definition can be anything and Apple has provided the means to remove apps. To some people the phone app is bloatware I guess.
If you read reviews you will find Asus,Huawei,Samsung have a lot of crap on their phones like Asus cloud,Omlet chat,Samsung market. That's not bloat?


But that is different than exactly who are apples suppliers and what is the exact part number.
Does it really matter? There is only 1 manufacturer on the planet who can handle the scale of Apple's business.
 
It's either copying or it's not. Make up your mind
Thought I said my opinion.

That's because the core design ethos hasn't changed but overall there has been a significant change in the overall design yet they are able to retain that BMW look.
Same with iPhone.

If you read reviews you will find Asus,Huawei,Samsung have a lot of crap on their phones like Asus cloud,Omlet chat,Samsung market. That's not bloat?
Right, imo, iPhones don't.

Does it really matter? There is only 1 manufacturer on the planet who can handle the scale of Apple's business.
If it didn't matter this tit-for-tat wouldn't be going on.
 
Too bad Apl now has most failures :iOS failure rate at 62 percent https://betanews.com/2017/02/28/ios-performance-issues-failure/ in the final quarter of last year. Also latest US-Cert lists Apl many many times in latest Vulnerability summary https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/bulletins/SB17-058

I would not be casting stones, iOS is sort of bad news too. All relative.
Hardware looks nice
i didn't say anything about security, and im not "casting stones" - i just don't like android OS. i find the interface clunky and the app store cluttered. also, is it that hard to type out the additional 2 letters in "Apple" ....?
 
i didn't say anything about security, and im not "casting stones" - i just don't like android OS. i find the interface clunky and the app store cluttered. also, is it that hard to type out the additional 2 letters in "Apple" ....?

See my explanation think "canary"
 
Friendly reminder that the iPhone was was also called a "sleek device" when it had a headphone jack. A phone can be sleek despite the jack.
 
the SD 821 is an extremely competent CPU. in every day tasks there's zero lag. it can already do everything you'd want to on the phone, and before anyone screams about the A10, in multi-core performance, the 821 benchmarks faster.

And in some cases, instances the 821 seems to do better.
http://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-821-versus-apple-a10-fusion-730146/

Don't get me wrong, the A10 is IMHO the current BEST mobile chip you can buy. But to call the 821 a slouch and a product using it as "DOA" is biased commentary at best.

however,

Nobody is getting the 835 till the S8 is launched. Samsung is currently the FAB for the 835 from Qualcom and part of that deal is that Samsung gets first dibs at the chips.

Which seems weird, because Samsung's Exynos chips aren't bad either and are very very competent chips. I wonder what Samsung is doing with them this time around or if they've finally decided to just stick with QC designs
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yeah, what the hell did samsung do with their home button and fingerprint sensor?

I love the idea of nearly borderless phone... But I'm a fan of the hoe button. I like pressing it in. the tactile response is a big deal. I'm really not sold on on-screen controls like google wants on android devices. And I hope samsung wont follow along.

though, my S6 is likely the last Samsung phone I buy.
The fingerprint sensor will be on the back and the home button is going to be a virtual on screen button.
 
So your saying that Apple should start selling exploding phones to be like Sam sunk

Grow up seriously, what happened with the note 7 was disappointing but let's not act like that's the norm. That could of happened to any company.

The S7 was perfectly fine in terms of being safe. How about you compare what the S8 is likely to do. All the new features the iPhone 8 is going to have is basically a Samsung phone with IOS on it. There is nothing junk about what Samsung brings out. It's arguably the best devices out each year and this year will be no different
 
Seriously, if next iPhone isn't completely new design and major advancement from iPhone 6/6plus-7/7plus then Android will take gargantuan lead over iOS. Even now iPhones market share is looking more and more like Mac vs. Windows situation and we know what developers think about shrinking sales opportunities. I truly hope Apple will release totally re-designed flag ship iPhone and also at least one dirt cheap model so that iOS can truly challenge Anroid in every possible market. Dirt cheap models are important for the future of iOS.

Is that why all the Android OEMS are broke and apple is taking 90% of the profits?
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Agreed. I use both Samsung Galaxy S7 and iPhone 7 and Galaxy's screen is superior. Android OS isn't quite that different that IOS either.

Display mate says otherwise
Bah, the A11 will make the 8895 look like yesterdays news. Apple dominates in Architecture Design. :apple:

The A9 and A10 already does
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Was the last time you checked 2014?

Nope, he checked last year. When did you last check?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/9to5...nchmark-record-color-accuracy-brightness/amp/
 
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Sorry, didn't realise you checked it was the best iPhone screen (shouldn't it be?), see you said best screen ever?
 
Is that why all the Android OEMS are broke and apple is taking 90% of the profits?
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Display mate says otherwise


The A9 and A10 already does
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Nope, he checked last year. When did you last check?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/9to5...nchmark-record-color-accuracy-brightness/amp/
No it wasn't. It was voted the best LCD display ever. Not best display ever. The note 7 currently holds that title and before that it was the S7 edge which was voted as the best display ever.
 
I'm skipping the S8 and buying the Note 8 this year, Kind of what I do with the iPhone. I don't need to upgrade every year. I'll keep using my S7 Edge and my Note 5 till I upgrade to the Note 7.

Next year, I'll also buy the next iPhone and keep using my 6S and 6S+.

Android Nougat has really gotten to be a solid OS these days.
 
No it wasn't. It was voted the best LCD display ever. Not best display ever. The note 7 currently holds that title and before that it was the S7 edge which was voted as the best display ever.

The iPhone 7 matches or breaks new Smartphone display performance records for:

The Highest Absolute Color Accuracy for any display (1.1 JNCD) – Visually Indistinguishable from Perfect

The Highest Absolute Luminance Accuracy for any display (±2%) – Visually Indistinguishable from Perfect

Very Accurate Image Contrast and Intensity Scale (with Gamma 2.21) – Visually Indistinguishable from Perfect

The Highest Peak Brightness Smartphone for any Average Picture Level APL (602 to 705 nits)

The Lowest Screen Reflectance for any Smartphone display (4.4 percent)

The Highest Contrast Rating in High Ambient Light for a Smartphone for any APL (137 to 160)

The Smallest Color variation with Viewing Angle (2.1 JNCD or less)
 
The iPhone 7 matches or breaks new Smartphone display performance records for:

The Highest Absolute Color Accuracy for any display (1.1 JNCD) – Visually Indistinguishable from Perfect

The Highest Absolute Luminance Accuracy for any display (±2%) – Visually Indistinguishable from Perfect

Very Accurate Image Contrast and Intensity Scale (with Gamma 2.21) – Visually Indistinguishable from Perfect

The Highest Peak Brightness Smartphone for any Average Picture Level APL (602 to 705 nits)

The Lowest Screen Reflectance for any Smartphone display (4.4 percent)

The Highest Contrast Rating in High Ambient Light for a Smartphone for any APL (137 to 160)

The Smallest Color variation with Viewing Angle (2.1 JNCD or less)
Display mate voted the note 7 the best display ever after it reviewed the iPhone 7.
 
Grow up seriously, what happened with the note 7 was disappointing but let's not act like that's the norm. That could of happened to any company.

The S7 was perfectly fine in terms of being safe. How about you compare what the S8 is likely to do. All the new features the iPhone 8 is going to have is basically a Samsung phone with IOS on it. There is nothing junk about what Samsung brings out. It's arguably the best devices out each year and this year will be no different
No, it could not have happened to any company.
Because it happend twice! After the first reports of exploding or catching fire notes 7' s, they had the chance to correct it, but even the newer revisions had the same problems.
For samsung it was all about competing with apple, and they put that first vs the customer and consumers safety.
So if it happens once, ok.
Twice? After they had the chance to correct it? No! That could not have happened to any company.
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Display mate voted the note 7 the best display ever after it reviewed the iPhone 7.
Yes, it says something about the superior tech of samsung displays. But... you can' t get a galaxy note 7 . It is not a real product.
 
No, it could not have happened to any company.
Because it happend twice! After the first reports of exploding or catching fire notes 7' s, they had the chance to correct it, but even the newer revisions had the same problems.
For samsung it was all about competing with apple, and they put that first vs the customer and consumers safety.
So if it happens once, ok.
Twice? After they had the chance to correct it? No! That could not have happened to any company.
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Yes, it says something about the superior tech of samsung displays. But... you can' t get a galaxy note 7 . It is not a real product.
I'm not convinced that the S7 edge does not have a better display than the iPhone 7 plus according to display mate.

The iPhone 7 is low res and doesn't even come into it.

I've not owned the note 7. I had the S7 edge for one month and used it alongside my 6S plus. The S7 edge probably had a better display but there wasn't much in it. My 7 plus has a better display than the 6S plus.
 
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