iPhone has been released before a Samsung phone which means Samsung has not always been ahead.
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Samsung has always been ahead of Apple
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You apparently haven’t heard of the snapdragon 8 elite. It equals or bests the latest Apple SOC in many areas. I love my 16PM, but my S25U is just as, if not more powerful, and efficient all while truly allowing multitasking and apps running in the background.
Yep, it was the first to have magnetic wireless charging also but everyone thinks Apple invented it with MagSafe. I loved the Pre and it’s shame that webOS couldn’t catch on.
just enjoy best of both worlds. I have the 16PM and S25U and have upgraded Android and Apple every year and enjoy both phones. Apple will always be the daily driver because of its security and robust reliable system and Samsung is my secondary tinkering phone. I do banking etc only on iPhone given that my accounts etc were hacked a few years back when I was on Samsung only, never had an issue since going Apple.
Spot on. For me, the day Apple stopped being “Late but right” was when they finally gave us an App Drawer called App Library. It’s a mess and had been for 4 years now. And hasn’t been updated to fix how stupid it is.
Years later, now we have app theming, yay. But not all apps change.
Probably everyone had some version of wireless charging that their engineers were experimenting with in 2013... not just Samsung. We just never saw it.
Ten years before the iPad launched, I got to try a prototype Windows NT tablet computer that was controlled with a stylus.
Ten years before the iPad launched, I got to try a prototype Windows NT tablet computer that was controlled with a stylus.
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While this is true, for multi-core, its also highly likely that Apple can easily beat that, but haven't because they were already leading the pack and doing so would just put pressure on themselves. I bet now we see Apple take the lead again this year and frankly, Apple has a huge advantage because they control the SoC architecture and the OS. But its nice to see snapdragon finally on par.
But let's be honest, the end user can barely tell a difference at this point. Even the Tensor, which is not even in the same ballpark as these chips, results in a totally smooth experience outside of some gaming and thermal issues.
I still get stutters and lag on my pixels sometimes. It's slight and if I didn't have a 16PM or S25U I wouldn't think much of it but I can definitely tell the difference in performance between the tensor and the others. I love my pixel devices but hope at some point they go a different direction with their tensor chip.
In everything but design, quality and taste.
Even iPhones had wireless charging long before MagSafe yet Samsung hasn’t even put MagSafe on theirs yet
So ahead they just copied live activities, some version of the DI and the gestures to invoke the control center and notification center.
Meanwhile they themselves didn’t keep their variable aperture and were always leagues behind Face ID.
But I too recently came to conclusion about Samsung in the past, they basically were the Apple of Android, always being the first around the curve, always pushing the envelope, but also taking much inspiration from others.
Meanwhile they themselves didn’t keep their variable aperture and were always leagues behind Face ID.
But I too recently came to conclusion about Samsung in the past, they basically were the Apple of Android, always being the first around the curve, always pushing the envelope, but also taking much inspiration from others.
Make great phones that throw everything at the wall, even if most of that stuff doesn’t even stick around for the next model.
That’s the thing, with rare exception if Apple introduces something it sticks around. If Samsung introduces something on the Galaxy S5… it’s an open question if it’ll still be there by the time the S6 rolls around.
Saying that one is better than the other is kind of pointless, both should exist because competition is good.
Here’s what I think as someone who sells phones at a Canadian telecom company. iPhone users generally want an iPhone because it’s what they know and not because of some specific feature set. The few exceptions I see are folks who have family on Android that can show them how it works. Android users are similar, they want it because it’s what they know. It’s rare at my store for someone with a Samsung to even switch to Pixel despite running the same base OS, most phone users want familiarity. The other folks that want Android are those looking for a cheap phone because they barely use it, they just need something so people can get a hold of them. Some people, of course, buy for new features but most just buy because what they have is no longer serving them, or something is on sale and they want a new phone. People rarely ask me about actual features on the phone.
Just a caveat or two, I’m one person that works at one store for a Canadian telecom company, I don’t pretend that’s a exact sample of all the hundreds of millions of people that buy smartphones every year.
Just a caveat or two, I’m one person that works at one store for a Canadian telecom company, I don’t pretend that’s a exact sample of all the hundreds of millions of people that buy smartphones every year.
I know but it still shows that all companies are guilty of that. Plus, Samsung doesn’t habitually remove features every year. That’s why the non-Bluetooth S-Pen got so much flack because people aren’t used to Samsung actually taking features away.
I think it's normal in terms of where they are at in development of their own SoC. They are making improvements each year and if I remember correctly Tensor is essentially just a Exynos clone with some customs changes but still based on that fab. Isn't this year the first where they will use the TSMC 3nm process? The issue is, Google are starting this SoC race 3 laps behind from the start.
Google are actually making the typical 20-30% increase generation to generation, but they are being compared to Qualcomm and Apple who work on a better process and foundation. Ideally, Google will copy Apple. Improve their SoC fab process but also custom the architecture and OS to work together to get the most efficiency possible out of the SoC. My hope is with the new 3nm process we see a bigger leap this year to makeup some ground. But I dont see them ever being as efficient as Apple due to the nature of Android and having to work with so many different levels of hardware. Its just to order to optimize for that many different devices and compute ranges.
Also, it's so weird to say a certain manufacturer is ahead of the others. They all copy from each other and there are tons of examples of Samsung copying Apple. Samsung has typically been at the forefront of innovation in phones because they've always been unafraid to try new things and ship with potentially half baked features. That was what made the S series so fun for a long time. But in recent years they've gone much more in the Apple mold of small iterative updates on a proven product.
Apple on the other hand is known for being slow adopters for new features but when they do release they are usually much more polished and a lot of time have more utility because they are really clever at finding ways to integrate new features into their ecosystem. Also, when Apple come up with a feature, even if it has been done before, it tends to become "the trend" that other manufacturers follow.
But again, all borrow from each other so I guess I dont get the point of these types of posts. I hear people say Apple stole widgets from Android but really they both stole them from WindowsOS and that was probably borrowed from somewhere else. Honestly, any phone maker would be stupid to not borrow the best features from rivals. It's why I questioned Googles intelligence for so long is not making an iMessage clone. It was the single biggest reason people stayed with Apple at the time and rather than cloning the idea Google tried to reinvent messaging with stupid ideas like Allo and Meet.
Apple on the other hand is known for being slow adopters for new features but when they do release they are usually much more polished and a lot of time have more utility because they are really clever at finding ways to integrate new features into their ecosystem. Also, when Apple come up with a feature, even if it has been done before, it tends to become "the trend" that other manufacturers follow.
But again, all borrow from each other so I guess I dont get the point of these types of posts. I hear people say Apple stole widgets from Android but really they both stole them from WindowsOS and that was probably borrowed from somewhere else. Honestly, any phone maker would be stupid to not borrow the best features from rivals. It's why I questioned Googles intelligence for so long is not making an iMessage clone. It was the single biggest reason people stayed with Apple at the time and rather than cloning the idea Google tried to reinvent messaging with stupid ideas like Allo and Meet.
Head tracked smart scrolling: introduced in galaxy S4, gone by galaxy S5.
Smart pause: introduced in galaxy S4, gone by the S5.
Smart rotation: introduced in the galaxy S4, gone by the S5.
Heart rate sensor on the back: introduced on the galaxy S5, gone by the S6.
Dual Micro USB: introduced on the Galaxy S5, gone by the S6.
Removable battery: literally given mainstream advertising with the galaxy S5 as a benefit, then removed in the galaxy S6.
MicroSD card slot: available on all first five generations of galaxy S, removed in the galaxy S6.
Water resistance: introduced with the galaxy S5, removed with the S6.
USB 3.0: introduced with the Galaxy S5, downgraded back to 2.0 with the S6.
Pressure sensitive display: introduced on the Galaxy S8, removed with the S9.
Snap keyboard: introduced with the Galaxy S8, gone by the Galaxy S9.
Dual aperture: introduced with the Galaxy S9, removed with the Galaxy S10.
And there are some other ones that I can’t recall immediately, pretty sure there was a controversy a couple years ago that a phone that originally had 16 GB of RAM now only came in models with 12 GB of RAM.
The only Apple feature to be introduced as a flagship feature and then discontinued eventually was 3D Touch, and unlike most of Samsung’s “try it one year, remove it the next”, 3D Touch stuck around through five generations of iPhone before they finally decided to discontinue it.
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I have samsung products as well as apple but Samsung have so blatantly copied apple in so many ways it’s embarrassing.
They weren’t dubbed samesung for nothing! 😂
They weren’t dubbed samesung for nothing! 😂
It beats it in one area (multicore) in benchmarks, and it looks like it was designed to beat Apple on a spec sheet, not actually perform. From another thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ine-deal-worth-billions.2448496/post-33712051