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"fits in your pocket" isn't hard to figure out.

But "without damaging it"? If it fits comfortably in my pocket, I'm somehow supposed to magically know whether it's going to get damaged or not?

If it fits in a pocket, the expectation is that it will be fine in there just like any other phone. If Apple really wants people to have the expectation that they made a phone too big to be safe in a pocket, they probably need to actually tell users that.

Well have they EVER said to carry ANY phone in your pocket? Again common since folks. should have to be told not to spill hot coffee on you or it will burn unless you are three.

I would not "expect" that I could carry a tablet/netbook in my pocket and it not be damaged. Guess the 9 people that have complained so far are not as intuitive as me. :)
 
Just offtrack a bit, you could sell your phone on craiglist for $300 if your phone is still in good condition and you have all accessories. So you will walk out of Apple store with a 6 and zero out of pocket. You still have to pay for activation and sale taxes though.

You can also sell on http://ebayforthewin.com .. Kind of has nice prices and I think they give you $100 if it doesn't sell for the average price with the average condition. I'm sure there are other "conditions" involved, but seems like a good deal.
 
Samsung is correct, they don't bend, they crack.

Can't count how many times our IT department has had to send out multiple user's Galaxy Note phones to have screen replacements.

No doubt the Note is more durable, but for Samsung to act as if their products are idi......bullet proof, is a bit of a stretch. Any of these large screen portable devices are going to be susceptible to damage.

As for Apple, I hope they do a quick revision change on the 6+ . Perhaps remove a bit of battery capacity, to put in a thick internal aluminum spine, or something to make it a bit more rigid.

Or make it thicker. More rigid + no protruding camera = win.
 
Doesn't seem to be widespread as it appears. Anyone MR readers having issues with their 6 Plus? I know a couple of people, they don't have any issues yet.
 
Or make it thicker. More rigid + no protruding camera = win.

What about those that love the thinness as it feels great in the hand and don't care about the camera coming out and absolutely don't want a fatter phone, otherwise we would have gone android.
 
Samsung makes a solid TV, their UHD a are great, their top of the line plasmas was as well, still Panny is king of all and those new one they have coming out soon that will match plasma but in a lcd is going to be killer. And how did the Sony win? Due to your opinion? I've had Sony, Samsung and Panny TVs all are great and each has its pros over the other, but IMHO Panny makes the best TVs right now.

Ironically I worked for Panny from 2003 through 2008 and was there during the takeover of Pioneers Panel technology. good stuff for sure.

Overall though, I have a huge eye for panels and calibration and realism and Sony just flat out has a couple really good TV's in the market. Not all of them are but their capabilities just outshines the ones I compared at the time. I mainly bought the Samsung to help form a comparison. I already had some Panny Plasma's but was ready for a nice LED.
 
Apple should terminate LG's contract as a supplier, maybe this company will stop mocking Apple... :rolleyes:
 
The thickness of the 6+ could have easily been a carryover from the 5S and I doubt there would have been a single complaint.

Hmm have you followed Apple long? new MR front page:
" Apples latest iPhone 6 is same thickness as last years 5s model, users already complaining that they have lost their innovation"

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Post # 1: I will just wait for the s model, there is nothing compelling as its the same as the 5s. Way to go Apple. Maybe I will look at Android now.
 
Chris. I agree it was a conscious design choice... that unfortunately contains structural flaws. It is what it is. Bolded: If you only had two choices then your argument would hold water. As is, the false binary you present rings hollow. Too thin and tank aren't the only options. Is the 5S a tank? Honestly I really can't think of a recent flagship that would be considered a tank. The thickness of the 6+ could have easily been a carryover from the 5S and I doubt there would have been a single complaint. The phone would have been stronger and less likely to have an issue.

Everything in a 24 hour new cycle eventually gets replaced by something else. So saying it will play out like antennagate is a bit rhetorical don't you think?

if they made a 5.5" scaled up 5s, i would expect it to bend easier than the 6+ does. there were bending issues with the 5s as it was.
 
I disagree with you, there is video already on Youtube of someone bending a Samsung phone with the Glass breaking and back popping off. It was posted on one of the threads yesterday. I've heard nothing more about this or seen this video on the news. Again the Apple scrutiny, where is the scrutiny on this video of bending?

The reasons it's not getting the scrutiny are IMO:

Apple's issue happened right after the launch of two new long awaiting and hyped up phones.

The Apple one happened as the story goes, in someone's pants, not a video posted to youtube of someone simply bending a phone for the sake of it.

Other vids of Note 3's, etc. show it not breaking or bending.

All in all, I stand by my post that the hype over it has less to do with Apple being successful with the iPhone as it does with their own people and raving fans clamoring about their infallibility in the market. The craftsmanship, build quality, flawless systems, etc..

The reality of all that is they are no different than anyone else and when you are walking around and in some cases being put on a pedestal, when you do mess up and drop the ball...twice in one week...yes, the vultures are going to come pick at you.

Just look at these forums, people scoff at Samsung, hate them, etc...they think their hardware is crap. Why would one of them breaking cause any social media fire? However, look at Apple in their veil of perfect products....nothing like this was expected from them right? I mean they've not messed up before have they?
 
1. the 4s is tiny. Can't compare. I can put a tiny piece of cardboard in my pocket and it wouldn't bend. I put a huge piece of cardboard and it will bend because it doesn't fit in the pocket.

2. Maybe apple has skinny people working for them :)

3. It does not bend when you just walk around. WTF is with everyone just saying that they walk with it in their pocket and somehow magically bends 90 degrees. It bends when a heavy person sits on it, or has it in their front pocket and uncomfortably has it poke their thighs until it breaks/bends

4. I don't think Apple expected people to throw the phone, sit on it, step on it, run it over with their cars...

@1: A 4S and a 6+ are both mobile devices intended to be carried on one's person at all times, so the comparison is valid. Mobile devices should be tough and durable. They are not desk ornaments like a computer, they need to hold up in the rough and tumble of daily life. I believe most if not all current smart phones are insufficiently durable, but the 6+ appears to be the worst despite costing the most. You are focusing on size when you need to look at the intended use of a product.

@3: These 6+ phones are bending in both front and rear pockets. But unless you sit on a hard surface, why should a phone permanently bend even if it's in a rear pocket? Why would anyone find such flimsiness acceptable on such an expensive mobile device? On some cheap Android device I could understand, but Apple's flagship phone should be better. BTW they are bending in front pockets as well as rear, and not only in tight jeans.

@4: If Apple don't expect phones to take abuse, then that could explain the current designs. More likely, I think it's Ive who doesn't expect his designs to compromise with the real world, and nobody at Apple can or will veto his judgement.
 
Just offtrack a bit, you could sell your phone on craiglist for $300 if your phone is still in good condition and you have all accessories. So you will walk out of Apple store with a 6 and zero out of pocket. You still have to pay for activation and sale taxes though.

apple paid me $310 for my 5s att locked 16 GB out of my pocket with no box, cable, or charger. I was basing my math off of the fact that if you are trading in the 5s, you got it a year ago or less, so instead of $199, the phone will cost $450 because of the early upgrade, $450-310=$140 plus tax/activation, although maybe you can get away with no activation if you keep your old sim.
 
@1: A 4S and a 6+ are both mobile devices intended to be carried on one's person at all times, so the comparison is valid. Mobile devices should be tough and durable. They are not desk ornaments like a computer, they need to hold up in the rough and tumble of daily life. I believe most if not all current smart phones are insufficiently durable, but the 6+ appears to be the worst despite costing the most. You are focusing on size when you need to look at the intended use of a product.

@3: These 6+ phones are bending in both front and rear pockets. But unless you sit on a hard surface, why should a phone permanently bend even if it's in a rear pocket? Why would anyone find such flimsiness acceptable on such an expensive mobile device? On some cheap Android device I could understand, but Apple's flagship phone should be better. BTW they are bending in front pockets as well as rear, and not only in tight jeans.

@4: If Apple don't expect phones to take abuse, then that could explain the current designs. More likely, I think it's Ive who doesn't expect his designs to compromise with the real world, and nobody at Apple can or will veto his judgement.

Also, the 9 reported incidents out of 10 million that this happened to, do not state how they broke their iphones. I purposefully started keeping mine in my front pocket, sitting, etc and it has not yet bent. I figure apple will replace it if I'm case #10.

I even put jeans on to really test the damn thing.. So far, not even a mm of bending.
 
Got my 6+ on day one, front pocket every day, and I drive about 1 - 2 hours each day, phone in pocket the entire time. No bending.

While at work I mostly stand but am climbing up and down ladders very frequently, and crouching/bending.
Still hasn't bent.

This is something that has been blown way out of proportion because they need something, anything to gravitate to to mock Apple since they're insecure. You don't see Apple doing this when new Samsung devices come out, they don't care, they're confident in their product.

Reminds me of the same clowns that drive gas guzzling v8s and have to let you know just how much faster they are than everyone else on the road by snaking through traffic and riding everyone's ass and gunning it from every stop :roll eyes: in the end it just looks immature and desperate.
 
Is that when a product that for the first time likely had zero contribution from Steve Jobs on a design front and that product has clear issues that Apple Fans just act like "Nothing to see here". Why not demand the best from Apple.

Facts:

Steve Jobs would have never let a product go to market with a camera that's not flush.

Steve Jobs would not have let a product go to market that bends

If it's no big deal than I guess Apple will not fix it for the 6S right? Duh of course they'll fix it. It was a design failure no question about it and they'll fix it. It just would have never made to customers hands under Steve Jobs.

You don't know that. Those are not facts. Who knows what iPhone 6 would have looked like if he were still alive and active. It could have been the same, or a lot different. We just don't know, and it doesn't make sense to say "if he were alive, it would have been X".
 
Losing what? He's the best designer on the planet bar none. This case is clearly user error. Nobody stupid enough to put their big phones in their front pockets or rear ones either. Well maybe the 1 person who broke his phone on YouTube. The rest are just delusional.

Apple doesn't make products they don't first test thoroughly. The 8.0.1 fiasco was due to the error of one of the qa engineers at apple who made a simple mistake any Google company does on a daily basis

And 1 case out of 10 million is hardly headline worthy. Apple still makes the best smartphone and there are no competitors.

It's one thing to be a fan, but wow.....
 
@1: A 4S and a 6+ are both mobile devices intended to be carried on one's person at all times, so the comparison is valid. Mobile devices should be tough and durable. They are not desk ornaments like a computer, they need to hold up in the rough and tumble of daily life. I believe most if not all current smart phones are insufficiently durable, but the 6+ appears to be the worst despite costing the most. You are focusing on size when you need to look at the intended use of a product.

@3: These 6+ phones are bending in both front and rear pockets. But unless you sit on a hard surface, why should a phone permanently bend even if it's in a rear pocket? Why would anyone find such flimsiness acceptable on such an expensive mobile device? On some cheap Android device I could understand, but Apple's flagship phone should be better. BTW they are bending in front pockets as well as rear, and not only in tight jeans.

@4: If Apple don't expect phones to take abuse, then that could explain the current designs. More likely, I think it's Ive who doesn't expect his designs to compromise with the real world, and nobody at Apple can or will veto his judgement.

Then get the 6. Problem solved. Get any phone or phablet this size and try to bend it and see what happens?

I don't understand wtf people are complaining. Apple give you the option to get the phone that FITS your need. If 6+ is too big for you, then get the 6 and stop whinning.
 
In all fairness, this is what Apple gets for designing such a thin phone made of soft metal.

While its competitors are not faultless, the fact remains Apple continually likes to place itself as a premium device (and in years past they've lived up that). Premium products should not bend when placed in pockets.

Gold jewellery bends pretty easily. :D
 
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