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I find my Airpods sound good enough for what I use them for - podcasts and Apple Music. Call quality is also pretty good. I have to care about convenience, because the best-sounding headphones are moot if they are so uncomfortable that I can’t wear them for extended periods of time (which in turn leads to me simply not using them).

The Airpods are so comfortable that I can leave them in my ears for hours on end and not feel a thing, and they have yet to fall out of my ears. It really is the perfect pair of earphones for me, and I have gone through a few.

When the new pair comes out, I am upgrading in a heartbeat.
You should stick those AirPods a little further into your ears for better sound o_O
 
You have to own an iphone in order to use a watch. You can’t setup the watch without an iphone unless you use someone elses initially but that doesn’t get around the sharing a phone number problem. Samsung has a stand alone watch, no cell phone required and has it’s own phone number. That is what I want. I do not like cell phones and don’t want to own one at all. The watch is not stand alone because it absolutely requires an iphone.
Yes, I’m aware of the dependency, but I don’t consider that tethered in the tech sense of the word.

In any case, I think you’re in the distinct minority if you could use a watch instead of a cell phone day in and day out. People mostly use smartphones for everything but a phone, that’s why they buy phones with relatively large screens. A watch is a poor substitute for a smartphone for most people, given the small screen and relatively short battery life.
 
Yes, I’m aware of the dependency, but I don’t consider that tethered in the tech sense of the word.

In any case, I think you’re in the distinct minority if you could use a watch instead of a cell phone day in and day out. People mostly use smartphones for everything but a phone, that’s why they buy phones with relatively large screens. A watch is a poor substitute for a smartphone for most people, given the small screen and relatively short battery life.

Ah, you're forgetting about Dick Tracy :)
 
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Am I the only one who hears "Galaxy Buds" and thinks some weird 90s Nickelodeon cartoon? Where one of the "Galaxy Buds" is a green space monkey or something? This is a TERRIBLE name for a product.
Yeah, it’s just you
 
The W1 chip does not have any advantages with Android. You need to use an Apple product to get them. My point was all these people carry on like airpods are the best thing since sliced bread but there are other products on the market that are objectively better in almost all areas and even have the W1 chip. It just goes to show the apple logo is more important then the actual product quality.
What products with the w1 chip are “objectively”!better. (Objectively in this context is a synonym for subjective because all aspects have to be considered)
 
What products with the w1 chip are “objectively”!better. (Objectively in this context is a synonym for subjective because all aspects have to be considered)
The Beats X are better then the AirPods. They have longer battery life and Better frequency response and still have the benefits of the W1 Chip. With that said I think you missed the point of my post, which is people buy Apple products by default, they usually have little knowledge of other products on the market as they can't see outside the "walled garden".
 
The Beats X are better then the AirPods. They have longer battery life and Better frequency response and still have the benefits of the W1 Chip. With that said I think you missed the point of my post, which is people buy Apple products by default, they usually have little knowledge of other products on the market as they can't see outside the "walled garden".
The objective part is subjective. AirPods don’t have wires and they charge ingeniously making them objectively better. That said, making some generalization on top of anecdotal experience doesn’t make it a fact.
 
The objective part is subjective. AirPods don’t have wires and they charge ingeniously making them objectively better. That said, making some generalization on top of anecdotal experience doesn’t make it a fact.
No they have measurably better battery life and measurably better frequency response. Im sorry but those are just facts. Also if you want too bring charging into the mix the Beats X also charge way faster. Im sorry but the AirPods are hopelessly outclassed in this comparison.
 
No they have measurably better battery life and measurably better frequency response. Im sorry but those are just facts. Also if you want too bring charging into the mix the Beats X also charge way faster. Im sorry but the AirPods are hopelessly outclassed in this comparison.

Do we include AirPods with or without the charging case? With the latter, AirPods reportedly get up to 24 hours of usage, which is way more than the 8-10 hours advertised by the Beats X.

After all, who really brings their AirPods along without the case?
 
Do we include AirPods with or without the charging case? With the latter, AirPods reportedly get up to 24 hours of usage, which is way more than the 8-10 hours advertised by the Beats X.

After all, who really brings their AirPods along without the case?
You still have to charge them 5 times to achieve that. You have already explained why you prefer the airpods and that fine. To each thier own, but im pointing out that there are other products on the market that are very competitive and in many cases objectively better but get overlooked because they don't have an Apple logo on them.
 
Do we include AirPods with or without the charging case? With the latter, AirPods reportedly get up to 24 hours of usage, which is way more than the 8-10 hours advertised by the Beats X.

After all, who really brings their AirPods along without the case?
Comparisons should be made using "continuous use" time to provide a level field.
 
They sound and work good enough for my needs.
That’s the difference between us. You’ve no problem paying premium for mediocre or yesterday technology. When I pay premium, I’ll expect the best.
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Do we include AirPods with or without the charging case? With the latter, AirPods reportedly get up to 24 hours of usage, which is way more than the 8-10 hours advertised by the Beats X.

After all, who really brings their AirPods along without the case?
Don’t know where you get those figures from. Probably from Apple... marketing phrases. Real world use:

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Not only the sound is mediocre but battery life is too.
 
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Comparisons should be made using "continuous use" time to provide a level field.
Are most people going to be listening to music for 10 hours at a stretch though?

Say the average user listens to music or podcasts for for 1-2 hours at a time. In this case, it doesn't really matter whether the AirPods last 5 or 10 hours, so long as it is fully charged in the case by the time the listener next wants to use it again. At this point, boasting the longest continuous playback duration is a pretty meaningless statistic which has little actual benefit to the end user in real-world usage, when in reality, the AirPods would actually allow the user to go for longer periods in between without recharging.

Not everything that can be measured necessarily matters, just as not everything which matters can be measured. That's what I have learnt from using Apple products all these years.

That’s the difference between us. You’ve no problem paying premium for mediocre or yesterday technology. When I pay premium, I’ll expect the best.

There is a popular Chinese saying - it doesn't matter whether the cat is black or white. It's a good cat so long as it catches mice.

For me, so long as Apple provides me a great user experience, what goes into their products is really of secondary importance. What's the point of boasting top-tier specs if it doesn't translate into a better experience for the end user at the end of the day? What's the point of paying top dollar for a pair of high-end Sony Hear.on headphones, which end up being uncomfortable because they press my spectacle frames against my face?

People really have to start accepting for sound quality isn't necessarily the be-all and end-all of what makes a great pair of headphones. There are many other factors which matter just as much, if not more.

That's the difference between you and me. I have learnt to look beyond specs and focus on what truly matters - the end experience. Sadly, it seems that many people still fixate on paper specs in a vacuum and are incapable of looking beyond that.

Don’t know where you get those figures from. Probably from Apple... marketing phrases. Real world use:
I can vouch from personal experience that when I first got my AirPods, I consistently got the full 5 advertised hours at a time when listening to podcasts or streaming music, or even when binge-watching Netflix on my Apple TV. On average, I would need to recharge my AirPods case roughly once a week, which did add up to about the 24 hours of listening time.
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You still have to charge them 5 times to achieve that. You have already explained why you prefer the airpods and that fine. To each thier own, but im pointing out that there are other products on the market that are very competitive and in many cases objectively better but get overlooked because they don't have an Apple logo on them.

Yes, there are products out there which are competitive with a 2-year old Apple product, which is on the verge of being refreshed.

Let that sink in for a moment.
 
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That’s the difference between us. You’ve no problem paying premium for mediocre or yesterday technology. When I pay premium, I’ll expect the best.
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Don’t know where you get those figures from. Probably from Apple... marketing phrases. Real world use:

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Not only the sound is mediocre but battery life is too.
Not really

My air pods last me a good week or more on a single charge and i use them daily. Sound wise it’s fine and battery wise it’s better than i expected.
 
No they have measurably better battery life and measurably better frequency response. Im sorry but those are just facts. Also if you want too bring charging into the mix the Beats X also charge way faster. Im sorry but the AirPods are hopelessly outclassed in this comparison.
A fact is the AirPods don’t have wires and have a smaller footprint. They charge in the case and one eared use is easy to accomplish. Those are facts and that’s why the AirPods are objectively better.

Convenience makes the AirPods better.
 
Yes. People, especially when travelling by air etc, will want at least 5 or more hours of continuous use. Not an issue for me as I don't use a Bluetooth connection.

Always have excuses for your precious Apple. Have you ever considered stand up?

You will likely not be using airpods on a plane due to lack of noise cancelling at any rate.
 
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People really have to start accepting for sound quality isn't necessarily the be-all and end-all of what makes a great pair of headphones. There are many other factors which matter just as much, if not more.

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For myself and I am sure many others, the two considerations by far are sound quality and comfort. Everything else is a very minor consideration. Like, do they fold for travel, not a show stopper but a minor consideration.
 
Yes. People, especially when travelling by air etc, will want at least 5 or more hours of continuous use. Not an issue for me as I don't use a Bluetooth connection.

Always have excuses for your precious Apple. Have you ever considered stand up?
When I travel or commute I have Bose qc ii. I travel with a 25000 anker mah battery pack and don’t run out of juice.
 
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