Samsung Leaks Upcoming AirPods Competitor 'Galaxy Buds'

[DNichter]

you both have completely, utterly missed the point of the conversation in your knee jerk reaction to defend all things apple

the conversation is literally a discussion of the timeline of inventiveness and innovation.

your counter is "WHO CARES CAUSE APPLE MADE MONEY!"

you are attempting to discredit or remove technilogical innovation from the "timeline" to fit your narrative and using dollar success to do so.

Just because tech is not financially viable or at the time, well designed, doesn't mean that tech didn't exist. APple, Samsung, etc, dont have what they have today if not for the tech that came before, and everyone of us should be willing to accept that timeline regardless of how much money a company made off it.

Do we completely ignore Nikolai Tesla's achievements because he made no money off it? NO. that's not how innovation and invention is gauged by.

the argument you've all made is "everyone else tech doesn't matter because Apple makes the most profit" and that's a stupid argument.

I don’t personally care whether Apple made money or not. My only point was that AirPods moved the product category forward by creating wireless buds that weren’t huge, sounded good enough, had great battery life, and had a generally seamless connection. I understand that they weren’t first, but they moved the needle. Cost also helped Apple since I believe the Bragi Dash were the first introduced, at $299. Apple’s version kind of moved everyone into that direction though by becoming popular.

 

[LordVic]

I don’t personally care whether Apple made money or not. My only point was that AirPods moved the product category forward by creating wireless buds that weren’t huge, sounded good enough, had great battery life, and had a generally seamless connection. I understand that they weren’t first, but they moved the needle. Cost also helped Apple since I believe the Bragi Dash were the first introduced, at $299. Apple’s version kind of moved everyone into that direction though by becoming popular.

and keep repeating this to what I'm saying shows how absolutely little you understand of what we're saying, AND i dont' know if at this point it's being willfully ignorant, or intention.

POPULARITY IS IRRELEVANT FOR INVENTION.
POPULARITY IS IRRELEVANT FOR INNOVATION.

these things exist whether or not the invention/innovation in question are succesfull or not.

I've said it before and will repeat this term. maybe you don't understand it. But all tech we have today, regardless if it was Apple, Samsung or billy in his garage, was built on the shoulders of giants.

this whole debate back and forth went on because someone claimed that everyone is just copying Apple as usual. We pointed out that no, that was in fact not true, and listed the products that were about earlier. financial success is completely. utterly, 100% irrelevant to the point being made.

Everytime you, and a few others keep trying to deflect back to "But Apple was successful with it, so everyone else is irrelevant", you are further re-inforcing a stereotype that certain Apple fans refuse to aknowledge that tech exists outside of Apple's innovations, and look to use any possible goal post movement to prove that point.

Your entire reply history in this thread alone is just outright excuses to keep believing that as well. IN fact at least you have the courage to say in one of your posts that you don't care and that you only consider financially successful products as "first", regardless of the underlying tech and where it came from.

And honestly, Apple has done a good job via marketing to have this implied as well. So I can understand why many people repeat this nonsense if they refuse to expose themselves to tech as a whole and live exclusively within 1 companies bubble.

 

[DNichter]

and keep repeating this to what I'm saying shows how absolutely little you understand of what we're saying, AND i dont' know if at this point it's being willfully ignorant, or intention.

POPULARITY IS IRRELEVANT FOR INVENTION.
POPULARITY IS IRRELEVANT FOR INNOVATION.

these things exist whether or not the invention/innovation in question are succesfull or not.

I've said it before and will repeat this term. maybe you don't understand it. But all tech we have today, regardless if it was Apple, Samsung or billy in his garage, was built on the shoulders of giants.

this whole debate back and forth went on because someone claimed that everyone is just copying Apple as usual. We pointed out that no, that was in fact not true, and listed the products that were about earlier. financial success is completely. utterly, 100% irrelevant to the point being made.

Everytime you, and a few others keep trying to deflect back to "But Apple was successful with it, so everyone else is irrelevant", you are further re-inforcing a stereotype that certain Apple fans refuse to aknowledge that tech exists outside of Apple's innovations, and look to use any possible goal post movement to prove that point.

Your entire reply history in this thread alone is just outright excuses to keep believing that as well. IN fact at least you have the courage to say in one of your posts that you don't care and that you only consider financially successful products as "first", regardless of the underlying tech and where it came from.

And honestly, Apple has done a good job via marketing to have this implied as well. So I can understand why many people repeat this nonsense if they refuse to expose themselves to tech as a whole and live exclusively within 1 companies bubble.

Maybe take a few deep breaths. I don’t even need to read through this to get the idea. I understand that Apple didn’t invent the product. I’ll leave it at that so we don’t result in a heart attack or worse.

 

[I7guy]

...You just described different strokes for different folks. I'm happy you can do what it is you do with an "sp4" whatever that is, but that doesn't cut it for me. I want more out of my phone, so I prefer it doing what I want rather than what iOS can't do for me. But, hey, let's ignore your "different strokes for different folks" and get on whatever level it is you're on and only do what you need to do. I'm sure no one else besides us two will ever have different needs...

Exactly my point. Different strokes for different folks. (btw sp4 is a surface pro 4, but I could easily use a macbook pro if I could pry one from my family's hands). Some people want a pc on their phone (and it seems their phone acts like a pc sometimes), I don't. For all the reasons ios is not android I like ios. But yes, each platform can read email, check facebook, etc. So there's that.

 

[Jervasio]

I see they’ve sprung for the more traditional design. I know people seem divided on this, but I've always preferred the parallel-running AirPod handles to the standard black lump design.

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I have those. They are the Dash by Bragi and they don't stay out of the ear so much (the fit can be adjusted).
The Dash are less protruding.

 

[I7guy]

...And honestly, Apple has done a good job via marketing to have this implied as well. So I can understand why many people repeat this nonsense if they refuse to expose themselves to tech as a whole and live exclusively within 1 companies bubble.

To your point there is very little the smartphone manufacturers have actually invented. Innovated by changing form factors, sure.
- lcd, oled, wifi, cellular chips, headphone jack, sd card, li ion battery, bluetooth, embedded processors, etc.

All existed prior to the mobile revolution and all smartphone manufacturers use technology built on the backs of others. (Yes, components like the a12 are custom, but still started from somewhere else)
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I had one pair of beats headphones (solo) and they were really awful. Muddy and distorted. I’ve been reluctant to buy anymore beats products again. The AKG YB50 Bluetooth headphones are the best sounding pair I have at the moment but my personal favourite are sennhiser both earphones and headphones. Even their cheapest pairs sound really good. The AirPods are just for convenience.

The convenience factor of the airpods are amazing, and the sound quality is good enough. The case charging thing is also pretty slick.

 

[9081094]

They just updated their watch? It’s the best selling smart watch by far. Rehashing the same standard tv every year is something to be seen? Alright.

Rehashing the same tv? I think you got the things confused with Apple. Samsung is renewing their whole lineup yearly, as do all the technology brands. Their tv lineup is, together with LG, one of the best you can get.

Don’t know in which isolated part of the world you live, but there is a lot going on in the technology space. Unfortunately Apple isn’t part of it.

 

[I7guy]

Rehashing the same tv? I think you got the things confused with Apple. Samsung is renewing their whole lineup yearly, as do all the technology brands. Their tv lineup is, together with LG, one of the best you can get.

Don’t know in which isolated part of the world you live, but there is a lot going on in the technology space. Unfortunately Apple isn’t part of it.

And these earbuds make Samsung a technology leader. Their smartphones are just spec upgrades from year to year. I’m not sure which company that manufactures smartphones are actually “part of it”. Maybe if apple included an sd card reader, they would be “part of it”.

 

[harriska2]

Yes it shares a number, but the watch can make and receive calls without being tethered to your iPhone. Or maybe you mean something different by tethered.

You have to own an iphone in order to use a watch. You can’t setup the watch without an iphone unless you use someone elses initially but that doesn’t get around the sharing a phone number problem. Samsung has a stand alone watch, no cell phone required and has it’s own phone number. That is what I want. I do not like cell phones and don’t want to own one at all. The watch is not stand alone because it absolutely requires an iphone.

 

[DNichter]

Rehashing the same tv? I think you got the things confused with Apple. Samsung is renewing their whole lineup yearly, as do all the technology brands. Their tv lineup is, together with LG, one of the best you can get.

Don’t know in which isolated part of the world you live, but there is a lot going on in the technology space. Unfortunately Apple isn’t part of it.

Yea I know they make a new TV every year, it’s still just a TV. Nothing crazy new, just better screens, which is to be expected. Been this way for years now. Yea there is a ton going on in technology today, exciting times. I am not really in the market for anything new though so happy as is. A lot has to line up in a product for me to be interested in a purchase.

 

[9081094]

Yea I know they make a new TV every year, it’s still just a TV. Nothing crazy new, just better screens, which is to be expected. Been this way for years now. Yea there is a ton going on in technology today, exciting times. I am not really in the market for anything new though so happy as is. A lot has to line up in a product for me to be interested in a purchase.

Well, a tv is for watching the screen, so a better screen is a big deal. Can’t understand you don’t applaud this.
Wish Apple would update their gear with the same focus and speed Samsung does and I’ll bet we have a lot less complainers here. You don’t have to buy each year their new gear, but at least you’ve the choice to have something better. Can’t say Apple is eager to give you better choices. Their computers are ancient in terms of technology. Their iPhones and iPads are overpriced. Their software and services are half baked outside the USA.
I want the old eager and nimble Apple back. Not the bean counting crap it is today.
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Yup, but for me, nothing beats the unparalleled portability afforded by any other headphones.

The AirPods case is actually small enough to slip into the coin pouch of my jeans, or into my front shirt pocket, and not make itself felt. The AirPods have somehow also managed to make me allergic to the feel of wires around my neck. It's just how everything comes together to create that unique AirPods experience. I can't really explain it, but it's there.

If you don’t care for high quality sound and don’t really care what else is on the market, it’s right for you.

 

[Fixey]

Samsung has missed one major point with it’s buds, is that they need to stand out be an iconic symbol, they will just blend in looking just like any other buds out there were AirPods stand out a mile and when seen wearing them everyone knows you are wearing Apple buds and helps to promote the product more.

 

[9081094]

Samsung has missed one major point with it’s buds, is that they need to stand out be an iconic symbol, they will just blend in looking just like any other buds out there were AirPods stand out a mile and when seen wearing them everyone knows you are wearing Apple buds and helps to promote the product more.

Depends where you are wearing them for. Status? Or you just want high quality sound?

 

[EvilEvil]

At you?

Yes, they scream, "look at me I'm a douchebag wearing these ugly overpriced wireless earbuds".

 

[9081094]

They’re getting pretty desperate at this point. AirPods, watches, stores, its all not going to work unfortunately. Guess they gotta give it a go though.

Why you think it won’t work? Apple store seems to work and most of the gear they’re selling haven’t been updated in years.

 

[DNichter]

Well, a tv is for watching the screen, so a better screen is a big deal. Can’t understand you don’t applaud this.
Wish Apple would update their gear with the same focus and speed Samsung does and I’ll bet we have a lot less complainers here. You don’t have to buy each year their new gear, but at least you’ve the choice to have something better. Can’t say Apple is eager to give you better choices. Their computers are ancient in terms of technology. Their iPhones and iPads are overpriced. Their software and services are half baked outside the USA.
I want the old eager and nimble Apple back. Not the bean counting crap it is today.
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If you don’t care for high quality sound and don’t really care what else is on the market, it’s right for you.

Sure, it’s defintiely a better TV each year, but I don’t really look to TV’s as some sort of leap in technology year in and year out. I haven’t really seen anything groundbreaking from Samsung either as of late, so I think we just have a difference of opinion when it comes to value. I don’t need major changes and prefer to invest in products that give me the best overall combination of performance, security, privacy, ecosystem, apps, and support. So far, Apple has been done well for me in those areas. I get that not everyone agrees and that’s just fine. It’s great that we have a ton of choice today.
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Why you think it won’t work? Apple store seems to work and most of the gear they’re selling haven’t been updated in years.

I just don’t think it’ll will make as much of an impact as Samsung hopes for. They want a similar following to what Apple has, but people who prefer Android devices tend to jump around from brand to brand since there are a ton of options. I’m not sure what you mean exactly because they updated their MacBook Pro, MacBook Air, Mac mini, iPad, iPad Pro, iPhone, and Apple Watch in 2018. I’d consider that most of their gear.

 

[Shanghaichica]

look at me I'm a douchebag wearing these ugly overpriced wireless earbuds

LOL
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you both have completely, utterly missed the point of the conversation in your knee jerk reaction to defend all things apple

the conversation is literally a discussion of the timeline of inventiveness and innovation.

your counter is "WHO CARES CAUSE APPLE MADE MONEY!"

you are attempting to discredit or remove technilogical innovation from the "timeline" to fit your narrative and using dollar success to do so.

Just because tech is not financially viable or at the time, well designed, doesn't mean that tech didn't exist. APple, Samsung, etc, dont have what they have today if not for the tech that came before, and everyone of us should be willing to accept that timeline regardless of how much money a company made off it.

Do we completely ignore Nikolai Tesla's achievements because he made no money off it? NO. that's not how innovation and invention is gauged by.

the argument you've all made is "everyone else tech doesn't matter because Apple makes the most profit" and that's a stupid argument.

Without the early pioneering tech there wouldn't be a polished product. That's how progression works. I think credit should be given where it's due.

 

[The Game 161]

Sure is a lot of debate going on here as always between apple and samsung. Both platforms are different and great in their own ways.

The talk of overpriced tech? Well yeah it is but isn’t all new tech? Samsung products you would say are overpriced. Phones likely are. Maybe not so much the watches or tablets which are reasonable for what they do.

iPhones and iPad are priced too high but doesn’t mean they aren’t still great products.

 

[I7guy]

Well, a tv is for watching the screen, so a better screen is a big deal. Can’t understand you don’t applaud this.
Wish Apple would update their gear with the same focus and speed Samsung does ...

They do. Using your logic if Samsung updating their screen is a big deal. Apple updating their iphone with new soc, dram, screen etc is also a big deal. Can't understand why you don't applaud this.
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If you don’t care for high quality sound and don’t really care what else is on the market, it’s right for you.

If you care about convenience vs good quality sound, the airpods are right for you.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Soooo many people in my office have AirPods, it's crazy. Plus I see them everywhere I go (Boston area). Anyways, I keep an eye on this event, see what Samsung brings to the table.

I'd rather mine in black.

Watch Kijiji get filled up like crazy with sales of AirPods (official) in White once the Black ones drop!
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I see they’ve sprung for the more traditional design. I know people seem divided on this, but I've always preferred the parallel-running AirPod handles to the standard black lump design.

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Sorry AirPods only look LESS prominent if you're of white skin. a LOT more prominent if you're Black skinned such as me! That's exactly why Apple's original ad for the AirPods has a very dark skinned Black Man and Woman first before the Asian lady was featured later in the ad (narrated by Jony Ive)

 

[torana355]

How does the W1 chip work with android? Do the features like instant pairing work?

The W1 chip does not have any advantages with Android. You need to use an Apple product to get them. My point was all these people carry on like airpods are the best thing since sliced bread but there are other products on the market that are objectively better in almost all areas and even have the W1 chip. It just goes to show the apple logo is more important then the actual product quality.

 

[mi7chy]

It didn't sell because it was garbage.

2013 Galaxy Gear Watch had much better real world performance running Doom, emulated Macintosh II, etc. than Apple Watch released years later.

Apple DCMA struck down the Galaxy Gear running Macintosh emulator YouTube video unfortunately but the difference was much more than Doom.

 

[Abazigal]

If you care about convenience vs good quality sound, the airpods are right for you.

I find my Airpods sound good enough for what I use them for - podcasts and Apple Music. Call quality is also pretty good. I have to care about convenience, because the best-sounding headphones are moot if they are so uncomfortable that I can’t wear them for extended periods of time (which in turn leads to me simply not using them).

The Airpods are so comfortable that I can leave them in my ears for hours on end and not feel a thing, and they have yet to fall out of my ears. It really is the perfect pair of earphones for me, and I have gone through a few.

When the new pair comes out, I am upgrading in a heartbeat.

 

[Fixey]

If some gadget, clothing what ever gets seen worn by everyone then one has to get it as well as it’s the in thing so the item must be designed to stand out from the crowd and Samsung buds just look average and common no one is going to notice and that will have an effect on sales like it or not.

Don’t matter how good something is just make it noticeable and if enough people start buying it then it will get noticed more and more and ends up increased sales just one of them things.

 

[I7guy]

2013 Galaxy Gear Watch had much better real world performance running Doom, emulated Macintosh II, etc. than Apple Watch released years later.

Apple DCMA struck down the Galaxy Gear running Macintosh emulator YouTube video unfortunately but the difference was much more than Doom.

How does this translate into real world usage? Hopefully the Galaxy Gear won't run fast because doom runs faster.