Samsung Leaks Upcoming AirPods Competitor 'Galaxy Buds'

[DNichter]

You stated the wireless buds that came before the AirPod weren't as good. The discussion was about true wireless buds. How can Apple have come up with the concept of wireless buds if it existed before then? Also, if they're so advanced, why was the first non-Apple product on the market two months after the AirPods went to market?


From the very first post where you made a claim that was proven to be false, which you went and backtracked on claiming you had prior knowledge through reviews you'd recently read, you have consistantly lied, and lied again to cover your inability to do any basic research. If you had, you'd know the Galaxy line is over a decade old at this point and it isn't "relatively new."

If Apple created a custom chip, then why is it using Bluetooth as a connection medium? The AirPods are lacking in something to be able to run 3 hours on a quick 15 minutes of charge. To give you an idea, the Sure SE535 in Bluetooth form operate for just over 2 hours on a quick 15 minute charge, too. The difference is they're higher quality than the AirPods and have a wire. The W-1 chip is an additional chip on top of the Bluetooth chip in the device. It adds nothing to audio clarity as that is codecs based. It only benefits power consumption, and I'm sure it merely modulates power delivery to lengthen time in between charges.

Same reason as I stated above. I don’t look at being technically first to release a product as some sort of achievement. Once a product is created that makes an impact, I kind of look to that one as the first. First is a wrong word usage though, so I get your comment. I’ve not tried to lie about anything, I honestly just didn’t hear anything about the Samsung watch when it first came out. It uses Bluetooth because they wanted it to be compatible with other devices. The W1 benefits power management, pairing, and connection.

Again, kind of done with this chat, but good talk and hope you enjoy the Galaxy products.

 

[0388631]

He does know Samsung was first by years, because he's been in that argument in many threads in the alternatives section. Each time he tries to pretend to be objective, so he doesn't get called out for being a blind loyalist. But post like the one you quoted show him for what he is, an Apple diehard with no care for the facts. For people like him, anything else that any other manufacturer tries, especially Samsung, is DOA.

Sometimes you need to lead people by the hand, even if they're kicking and screaming. Or known for illogical arguments and never having due diligence in researching before making consistently false claims. It's a problem with a lot of posters on this site.
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Same reason as I stated above. I don’t look at being technically first to release a product as some sort of achievement. Once a product I s created that makes an impact, I kind of look to that one as the first.

That's now how it works, dude. Apple was the first real smartphone maker. People argue about Palm PDAs, but that was a planner. So I'll give you that. Not this, though. You make no sense here. You might have a point if the competition prior to the AirPods was delivering less then 96 Kbps audio quality over a Bluetooth 1.0 spectrum.

First is a wrong word usage though, so I get your comment.

Finally.

I’ve not tried to lie about anything, I honestly just didn’t hear anything about the Samsung watch when it first came out.

You did, though. And according to @Sevanw, it seems you have a nasty habit of getting called out on your statements because you never do research. You've heard of the edit button, right? You spent post after post before clarifying you'd read articles about those watches, but still claim Galaxy watches are a new thing.

It uses Bluetooth because they wanted it to be compatible with other devices. The W1 benefits power management, pairing, and connection.

Oh really? I had no idea. I sure am glad Apple didn't come up with a new connection medium and forget to include it in their phones.

Pairing and connection are a Bluetooth chip controlled issue. You also said this earlier.

I think Apple created a custom chip that has much better power management than standard Bluetooth, but I can’t really speak to the engineering aspect on Apple’s end.

And now 30 minutes later you speak of the chip and Apple's engineering behind it. Are you serious?

 

[DNichter]

Sometimes you need to lead people by the hand, even if they're kicking and screaming. Or known for illogical arguments and never having due diligence in researching before making consistently false claims. It's a problem with a lot of posters on this site.
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That's now how it works, dude. Apple was the first real smartphone maker. People argue about Palm PDAs, but that was a planner. So I'll give you that. Not this, though. You make no sense here. You might have a point if the competition prior to the AirPods was delivering less then 96 Kbps audio quality over a Bluetooth 1.0 spectrum.



Finally.



You did, though. And according to @Sevanw, it seems you have a nasty habit of getting called out on your statements because you never do research. You've heard of the edit button, right? You spent post after post before clarifying you'd read articles about those watches, but still claim Galaxy watches are a new thing.



Oh really? I had no idea. I sure am glad Apple didn't come up with a new connection medium and forget to include it in their phones.

Pairing and connection are a Bluetooth chip controlled issue. You also said this earlier.




And now 30 minutes later you speak of the chip and Apple's engineering behind it. Are you serious?

You guys care way too much about one persons opinion about tech products.

 

[0388631]

You guys care way too much about one persons opinion about tech products.

Opinion is fine. It's when someone willingly makes false claims.
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You're just mad because they don't speak broke

You make no sense. Contrary to Apple's requirements, AirPods work on Android devices that carry the minimum bluetooth rating. All the bells and whistles won't work, but there are several apps for Android that bring back most of those bells and whistles.

And if you want to go that low, there are other true wireless and general wireless buds that offer better quality and about the same battery time as AirPods. They also cost more. In that instance, it's the AirPod owners who are too poor to afford Shures.

And if I want to be a real dick about it. The people who buy an iPhone XS and use it for 3-4 years spent a grand on it, right? But they're stretching the use for 3-4 years, sometimes 5 because it's a perfectly fine device in this day and age when not much changed in a year let alone two. Meanwhile there are flagship Android owners who don't wince at dropping $700-1,000 on new devices each and every year, because they want the newest toy. If you have to use your phone for 3-4 years to get your money's worth, are you actually doing better?

Let's not forget carriers who pray on people who can't buy a phone outright. Looking at Verizon or TMO's site, the price difference per month on top of the data/voice plan is less than $10 in most cases when comparing a flagship iPhone to a flagship Android. The price difference between a midgrade Android to a flagship is less than $5-6.

If I buy my S10 next month and break my S10 later, I'll just buy a new one. I don't like repairs because the phone never quite feels right. Meanwhile Apple offers a very expensive repair extension to replaced a part that costs next to nothing to manufacture.

But, hey sport, you enjoy your iPhone for the next 3 years. You deserved it!

 

[fairuz]

Samsung make great products. Makes you look Stupid saying they don’t

Their phones come preloaded with spyware and other crap, enough that even Google employees despise them. So much that they built their own phone instead.

Their TVs reserve the right to show ads on the screen, and in some cases they do. And they don't work properly with the Nintendo Switch cause of some HDMI problems. Plenty of stuff like that, overall cheap software on their TVs for a decade.

There's no reason to ever buy something from Samsung.
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Agreed. Whenever I see people wear them, they scream douchebag.

They scream "I lost one airpod" while riding the subway in San Francisco. Saw that happen the day they came out, lol.
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You make no sense. Contrary to Apple's requirements, AirPods work on Android devices that carry the minimum bluetooth rating. All the bells and whistles won't work, but there are several apps for Android that bring back most of those bells and whistles.

And if you want to go that low, there are other true wireless and general wireless buds that offer better quality and about the same battery time as AirPods. They also cost more. In that instance, it's the AirPod owners who are too poor to afford Shures.

And if I want to be a real dick about it. The people who buy an iPhone XS and use it for 3-4 years spent a grand on it, right? But they're stretching the use for 3-4 years, sometimes 5 because it's a perfectly fine device in this day and age when not much changed in a year let alone two. Meanwhile there are flagship Android owners who don't wince at dropping $700-1,000 on new devices each and every year, because they want the newest toy. If you have to use your phone for 3-4 years to get your money's worth, are you actually doing better?

Let's not forget carriers who pray on people who can't buy a phone outright. Looking at Verizon or TMO's site, the price difference per month on top of the data/voice plan is less than $10 in most cases when comparing a flagship iPhone to a flagship Android. The price difference between a midgrade Android to a flagship is less than $5-6.

The comment you're responding to is a common meme about AirPods themselves being really expensive.

And yes, iPhone ownership is definitely cheaper than high-end Android phone ownership unless you don't mind running an unsupported OS.

 

[0388631]

The comment you're responding to is a common meme about AirPods themselves being really expensive.

And yes, iPhone ownership is definitely cheaper than high-end Android phone ownership unless you don't mind running an unsupported OS.

The support issue is a Qualcomm issue, though. And the clever lads at XDA find ways to bypass manufacturer limitations. Though that goes into some unsavory bits. Though it's easy to do it if you're somewhat technically inclined. Though I just buy a new phone every year even though I say I won't. Temptation is ugly. With Google investing more and more into developer their own SoC, that may be a past issue in the years to come. Their processing chip in their Pixels is supposed to rival a decent older DSLR, not to mention the wizardry in night might. Google's been poaching Intel and Apple chip engineers since 2013.

I used an iPhone for a month. I'm not saying they're junk. I'm saying that iOS simply doesn't do enough for me out of the box and makes it hard without installing several apps, and that's if they exist.

Android was **** for a long time. Won't deny it. But it's gotten a lot better in the last four or five years. To me, using my S9 is akin to using my home PC. It's about as close as I can get. There are very few things I do on PC that I can't do on my phone, or I can and I simply haven't discovered how to do so.

 

[PickUrPoison]

You guys care way too much about one persons opinion about tech products.

That’s what they’re paid for lol. Or maybe they stopped their paid troll (aka astroturfing) program. But then again, it would explain much.

btw I’ve been mostly just seeing your responses; I’m not seeing the complaint posts thanks to the ignore list I populated over a year ago. Amazing how effective it still is!

 

[I7guy]

If you have read the reviews of the various earbuds, one common problem seems to be dropping of Bluetooth connection. I don’t know how Apple does it, but my airpods connection with my iphone and Apple Watch has been rock solid.

I don’t know if this is to be attributed to the W1 chip, but I feel there are a lot of “intangibles” that the airpods simply isn’t being credited enough with. It’s been more than 2 years since the AirPods has been released, and it’s telling that nobody else has been able to release a variant that clearly leapfrogs the airpods in terms of features or functionality. Yes, some of them might do better than the airpods in one area, but it invariably comes at the expense of functionality in other areas.

I think that’s why I continue to use Apple products. They aren’t perfect, but they somehow manage to always get the core experience just right, to the point where users are willing to overlook all the other flaws.

What the poster you quoted missed is the accelerometer that the AirPods have. Playing mono with one AirPods, stopping the music upon removal, transferring a phone call when inserted into the ear etc. all boils down to ones individual definition of innovation, which is a sliding scale based on bias.
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Android was **** for a long time. Won't deny it. But it's gotten a lot better in the last four or five years. To me, using my S9 is akin to using my home PC. It's about as close as I can get. There are very few things I do on PC that I can't do on my phone, or I can and I simply haven't discovered how to do so.

That’s just it I don’t want to emulate my pc on my phone. Different strokes I suppose. I have a surface pro and hotspot that does it better than any phone if needed in that way.

 

[0388631]

That’s what they’re paid for lol. Or maybe they stopped their paid troll (aka astroturfing) program. But then again, it would explain much.

btw I’ve been mostly just seeing your responses; I’m not seeing the complaint posts thanks to the ignore list I populated over a year ago. Amazing how effective it still is!

Samsung's astroturfing was against HTC, and it was falsified statements and benches against HTC products at the time. What you're describing are people correctly intentionally misleading statements that can be backed up with a simple query. Who's to say Apple doesn't astroturf online? Wouldn't it benefit Apple to rake in more consumers, mainly those on the edge or remotely considering their products?
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That’s just it I don’t want to emulate my pc on my phone. Different strokes I suppose. I have a surface pro and hotspot that does it better than any phone if needed in that way.

You're missing the point. If I'm on the go, I'm not going to lug around a PC, laptop/MBP to do something that would require a PC or MBP. It's easier to whip my phone out, do what I need to do and be on my merry way. Definitely a user depends issue. The iPad is great, but I can't see myself lugging that around either. And I've never really used an Android tablet so I can't comment on them. Point is, if I need to sign documents, I can. If I need to be able to run 1-10 VOIP numbers I use for business, I can and accept a call through each, hold, forward, whatever. Zipping and unzipping files using official software, I can. I'm sure it's doable on iOS, but it takes several more steps or turnkey methods of doing it that it's a chore at that point. Even using iOS 12, I still feel I need to jump through hoops like a dolphin to get what I want.

The only Apple product I'm jealous about is iMessage. Android doesn't have that and RCS isn't very close to it. And even with RCS you have ATT and Verizon hooking their network into Google and Microsoft's while a carrier like Sprint or TMobile is doing their own RCS that doesn't connect with the giants and has an inclusive RCS setup for just them and specific devices.

The theory was that Microsoft, Google and Apple were going to hook into RCS and use it as a closed network in the future and Apple could still operate the iMessage network separately but still hook into RCS if an RCS client "spoke" to an iMessage client.
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I guess it’s all down to the individual but I think the Samsung buds look better than the AirPods. However I’m not convinced that the Samsung buds would fit my ears or fit them comfortably. My AirPods fit like a glove. Also the AirPods are the better shout for me having an iPhone. However if you have the s10 which is said to be able to wirelessly charge the buds then that would be pretty good.

I think it would be wise for Samsung to take the lead of some earbud manufacturers and offer various silicone tips. The actual audio outlet port on earbuds is small these days on those silicone buds. If Phillips can sell a 6 GBP earbud set (wired) that comes with 2-3 sets of tips on top of the pair attached to the earbuds, then I'm sure Samsung can, too. Ear canal sizes differ. Plus, silicone is more snug than hard plastic.

 

[I7guy]

Samsung's astroturfing was against HTC, and it was falsified statements and benches against HTC products at the time. What you're describing are people correctly intentionally misleading statements that can be backed up with a simple query. Who's to say Apple doesn't astroturf online? Wouldn't it benefit Apple to rake in more consumers, mainly those on the edge or remotely considering their products?
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You're missing the point. If I'm on the go, I'm not going to lug around a PC, laptop/MBP to do something that would require a PC or MBP. It's easier to whip my phone out, do what I need to do and be on my merry way. Definitely a user depends issue. The iPad is great, but I can't see myself lugging that around either. And I've never really used an Android tablet so I can't comment on them. Point is, if I need to sign documents, I can. If I need to be able to run 1-10 VOIP numbers I use for business, I can and accept a call through each, hold, forward, whatever. Zipping and unzipping files using official software, I can. I'm sure it's doable on iOS, but it takes several more steps or turnkey methods of doing it that it's a chore at that point. Even using iOS 12, I still feel I need to jump through hoops like a dolphin to get what I want.

The only Apple product I'm jealous about is iMessage. Android doesn't have that and RCS isn't very close to it. And even with RCS you have ATT and Verizon hooking their network into Google and Microsoft's while a carrier like Sprint or TMobile is doing their own RCS that doesn't connect with the giants and has an inclusive RCS setup for just them and specific devices.

The theory was that Microsoft, Google and Apple were going to hook into RCS and use it as a closed network in the future and Apple could still operate the iMessage network separately but still hook into RCS if an RCS client "spoke" to an iMessage client.
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I think it would be wise for Samsung to take the lead of some earbud manufacturers and offer various silicone tips. The actual audio outlet port on earbuds is small these days on those silicone buds. If Phillips can sell a 6 GBP earbud set (wired) that comes with 2-3 sets of tips on top of the pair attached to the earbuds, then I'm sure Samsung can, too. Ear canal sizes differ. Plus, silicone is more snug than hard plastic.

I didn’t miss the point, you missed my point. I’m on the go to and with my backpack i have my sp4 handy should I be required to do something that can’t be done on any phone because it’s to tedious. If I need to read and comment on a long document or whatever, when a phone just doesn’t cut it.

But this is a long way away from the topic at this point.

 

[0388631]

you realize that Samsung had the completely wireless earbuds for a long while already?

They were of course over engineered, with numerous features that most users who had them never even knew about. But they've been around a while. They just weren't "galaxy" marketted

This more looks like a re-brand. Just like Samsung did with their watch. went from "Gear" to "Galaxy". Similar here looks like Gear X are now becoming "Galaxy"

And as for "Copying". The Gear X earbuds launched in 2016...

Not to mention they had the Gear S2, the S3 and more. But, hey, let's focus on the 2013 Gear and just that.
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I didn’t miss the point, you missed my point. I’m on the go to and with my backpack i have my sp4 handy should I be required to do something that can’t be done on any phone because it’s to tedious. If I need to read and comment on a long document or whatever, when a phone just doesn’t cut it.

But this is a long way away from the topic at this point.

You just described different strokes for different folks. I'm happy you can do what it is you do with an "sp4" whatever that is, but that doesn't cut it for me. I want more out of my phone, so I prefer it doing what I want rather than what iOS can't do for me. But, hey, let's ignore your "different strokes for different folks" and get on whatever level it is you're on and only do what you need to do. I'm sure no one else besides us two will ever have different needs.
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So just drop another $50 on AirPod battery replacement:

https://support.apple.com/airpods/repair/service

$50 each AirPod. Not $50 for the pair. It'll cost you $100 for both AirPods' buds batteries. $70 each out of warranty. $70 to replace a bud out of the pair and tie with the other bud. And if you replace one pair, you're better off replacing the battery on the other one at the same time.

 

[harriska2]

Wait. Doesn't the Apple Watch Series 4 (at least) have a full-cellular model? Apple had that demo with the woman out on her little boat, talking on her Watch. So, I'm not sure what you are calling "full on cell service".
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If there are connectivity issues, then ipso facto, it is hardly a "better design" now, is it?

The Apple Watch has a cell version that is still tethered and shares a number with a cell phone. I want a cell enabled watch that is neither tethered or shares a number as I don’t want a separate cell phone at all.

 

[PickUrPoison]

The Apple Watch has a cell version that is still tethered and shares a number with a cell phone. I want a cell enabled watch that is neither tethered or shares a number as I don’t want a separate cell phone at all.

Yes it shares a number, but the watch can make and receive calls without being tethered to your iPhone. Or maybe you mean something different by tethered.

 

[inkswamp]

They're great. And to share songs with your friend, you just bonk your head against theirs.

 

[mrex]

wow, the watch looks amazing!

 

[Heineken]

Who cares about sales? we're talking about technological advancement of technology.

the whole industry "stands on the shoulders of giants".

you don't get to handwave away technological innovation because it didn't sell well.

your post is absolute ridiculousness.

It didn't sell because it was garbage.

 

[torana355]

If you have read the reviews of the various earbuds, one common problem seems to be dropping of Bluetooth connection. I don’t know how Apple does it, but my airpods connection with my iphone and Apple Watch has been rock solid.

I don’t know if this is to be attributed to the W1 chip, but I feel there are a lot of “intangibles” that the airpods simply isn’t being credited enough with. It’s been more than 2 years since the AirPods has been released, and it’s telling that nobody else has been able to release a variant that clearly leapfrogs the airpods in terms of features or functionality. Yes, some of them might do better than the airpods in one area, but it invariably comes at the expense of functionality in other areas.

I think that’s why I continue to use Apple products. They aren’t perfect, but they somehow manage to always get the core experience just right, to the point where users are willing to overlook all the other flaws.

I personally use Beats X for my portable wireless needs and imo they are better then the AirPods in all departments especially sound quality.

 

[Abazigal]

I personally use Beats X for my portable wireless needs and imo they are better then the AirPods in all departments especially sound quality.

If you have followed my previous posts, you will know where I stand on Airpods. I acknowledge they may not sound all that stellar, but they more make up for it in the convenience aspect. Enough they I don’t see myself using anything else at the moment.

 

[Heineken]

If you have followed my previous posts, you will know where I stand on Airpods. I acknowledge they may not sound all that stellar, but they more make up for it in the convenience aspect. Enough they I don’t see myself using anything else at the moment.

Nobody buys AirPods for the sound.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I personally use Beats X for my portable wireless needs and imo they are better then the AirPods in all departments especially sound quality.

I had one pair of beats headphones (solo) and they were really awful. Muddy and distorted. I’ve been reluctant to buy anymore beats products again. The AKG YB50 Bluetooth headphones are the best sounding pair I have at the moment but my personal favourite are sennhiser both earphones and headphones. Even their cheapest pairs sound really good. The AirPods are just for convenience.

 

[0388631]

I had one pair of beats headphones (solo) and they were really awful. Muddy and distorted. I’ve been reluctant to buy anymore beats products again. The AKG YB50 Bluetooth headphones are the best sounding pair I have at the moment but my personal favourite are sennhiser both earphones and headphones. Even their cheapest pairs sound really good. The AirPods are just for convenience.

I had the same experience before and after Apple purchased them. I could understand if they were $80-100, but even at that pricerange, there's better products. I consider myself a mild audiophile and if I want to listen to well mastered music, I'll reach for Sony monitors at the very least. They're about $90 or sometimes less. They offer up about the purest sound, with more expensive headphone monitors coming in with better quality. Though at the $50-90 price range for monitor headphones, you can't beat the Sonys. Grados come in various prices, but their cheap stuff is a notch above Sony. HD 800's are amazing, but you ought to wait for a deal before dropping $1,400+ on them.

AKG/Samsung makes some amazing headphones. I forget the models I've got, but the newer stuff is miles above what the old stuff was like. Sometimes they teamup with group deal sites and you get a simple rebranded AKG but still get support from AKG. Excellent stuff. I think AKG is great for midmarket value. $200-300 is a steal for what you get.

Unfortunately, I personally prefer wired devices over wireless. Though as I said, the Shure wireless units are good, but the Shure wired unit of the same model is miles above the wireless model.

 

[torana355]

If you have followed my previous posts, you will know where I stand on Airpods. I acknowledge they may not sound all that stellar, but they more make up for it in the convenience aspect. Enough they I don’t see myself using anything else at the moment.

Are you aware of the Beats x features? Did you know they have the W1 chip? They also have 8 hour battery life and sound decent for a set of bluetooth headphones.
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I had one pair of beats headphones (solo) and they were really awful. Muddy and distorted. I’ve been reluctant to buy anymore beats products again. The AKG YB50 Bluetooth headphones are the best sounding pair I have at the moment but my personal favourite are sennhiser both earphones and headphones. Even their cheapest pairs sound really good. The AirPods are just for convenience.

Let me open by saying I agree, most Beats products are RUBBISH. Too much muddy bass and overpriced. But the Beats X have a more balanced sound signature. They have 8 hour battery life and also have the W1 chip.

 

[Abazigal]

Are you aware of the Beats x features? Did you know they have the W1 chip? They also have 8 hour battery life and sound decent for a set of bluetooth headphones.

Yup, but for me, nothing beats the unparalleled portability afforded by any other headphones.

The AirPods case is actually small enough to slip into the coin pouch of my jeans, or into my front shirt pocket, and not make itself felt. The AirPods have somehow also managed to make me allergic to the feel of wires around my neck. It's just how everything comes together to create that unique AirPods experience. I can't really explain it, but it's there.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I had the same experience before and after Apple purchased them. I could understand if they were $80-100, but even at that pricerange, there's better products. I consider myself a mild audiophile and if I want to listen to well mastered music, I'll reach for Sony monitors at the very least. They're about $90 or sometimes less. They offer up about the purest sound, with more expensive headphone monitors coming in with better quality. Though at the $50-90 price range for monitor headphones, you can't beat the Sonys. Grados come in various prices, but their cheap stuff is a notch above Sony. HD 800's are amazing, but you ought to wait for a deal before dropping $1,400+ on them.

AKG/Samsung makes some amazing headphones. I forget the models I've got, but the newer stuff is miles above what the old stuff was like. Sometimes they teamup with group deal sites and you get a simple rebranded AKG but still get support from AKG. Excellent stuff. I think AKG is great for midmarket value. $200-300 is a steal for what you get.

Unfortunately, I personally prefer wired devices over wireless. Though as I said, the Shure wireless units are good, but the Shure wired unit of the same model is miles above the wireless model.

I wouldn’t even spent £1 on another pair of beats headphones. I couldn’t even give those solo headphones away. My husband broke them last year and I wasn’t bothered at all. They were really uncomfortable too.

I don’t really like wired headphones too much anymore. However what I like about these AKG headphones is that even though they are Bluetooth. In a year or two when the battery is degraded they can still be used as wired headphones. Unlike my AirPods which will be ready for the scrap heap in a few months time. Only problem is that the phone I have now doesn’t have a headphone jack...
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Are you aware of the Beats x features? Did you know they have the W1 chip? They also have 8 hour battery life and sound decent for a set of bluetooth headphones.
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Let me open by saying I agree, most Beats products are RUBBISH. Too much muddy bass and overpriced. But the Beats X have a more balanced sound signature. They have 8 hour battery life and also have the W1 chip.

How does the W1 chip work with android? Do the features like instant pairing work?

 

[LordVic]

The W1 is a technological advancement of technology, which creates a more compelling and valuable product. This is part of the reason why AirPods sell so well. I get your ultimate point, but I have a hard time considering a product a technological advancement just because it is released first. If the product itself is junk or it doesn’t really push the product type further, is it really that impressive of a feat?

It didn't sell because it was garbage.

you both have completely, utterly missed the point of the conversation in your knee jerk reaction to defend all things apple

the conversation is literally a discussion of the timeline of inventiveness and innovation.

your counter is "WHO CARES CAUSE APPLE MADE MONEY!"

you are attempting to discredit or remove technilogical innovation from the "timeline" to fit your narrative and using dollar success to do so.

Just because tech is not financially viable or at the time, well designed, doesn't mean that tech didn't exist. APple, Samsung, etc, dont have what they have today if not for the tech that came before, and everyone of us should be willing to accept that timeline regardless of how much money a company made off it.

Do we completely ignore Nikolai Tesla's achievements because he made no money off it? NO. that's not how innovation and invention is gauged by.

the argument you've all made is "everyone else tech doesn't matter because Apple makes the most profit" and that's a stupid argument.