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Hardly. If apple are stupid enough to remove the headphone jack it will be a gift to other phone makers. iPhone sales are already in decline, and with the 7 looking like just another 6 I expect it will, by apple standards, be a flop.
I didn't say it was good idea from Apple. It's just another cringeworthy moment during a Samsung product launch. It's not just them who does it, but they just don't pull it off very well. Especially when only like 4 people laughed.
 
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It seems samsung cant do wrong either.

Are you kidding? Even its fans bashed Samsung for leaving out the very features that people loved, like expandable storage and water resistance. Plus not having a way to replace its tiny battery.

That's why Samsung brought those features back, along with a larger battery and fast ways of charging it. And sales are apparently back up because they listened to their customers instead of dictating.
 
Fair enough. But so far there's a rumor of what Apple may do, and most are assuming that Apple won't do anything to improve wireless audio in the process of removing the headphone jack. That makes zero sense to me. BT 5 was just announced, so that suggests that yes, big improvements are on the horizon.



Ah the same old argument that greedy Apple is out to screw its own customers and profits in the process.

Seriously!? Apple is going to save its sagging profits from already slowing iPhone sales, by removing a universal port when it doesn't have to, despite the fact it's competition doesn't have to either, thinking it will not only make up for slowing sales, but the inevitable defection of existing customers, with some Lightning licenses, adapters and forced Beats headphone sales when there is a thriving headphone market with many other major players to offer choices?

Yeah, you've clearly thought that through. I'm sure you were one of the first to notice that there was no way to charge the phone and use Lightning headphones at the same time either. Thank god you pointed out how out of touch Apple is, so I can dump all of my stock today.

So what's the benefit?

You criticise what I say but don't offer any sound reasoning behind Apple's decision.
 
These people that found it funny are the ones that don't see the future, these types of people would if they could be using CRTs, SVGA or Scart and Analog Audio Out, well they still have Analog Audio Out but some day that too will go as tech moves on and what these people don't get about digital audio out is that the headphones or speakers will have the job of the DAC, that is the poor DAC that is in every laptop, tablet phone for supporting this out of date audio is one of the main issue in poor audio, when this is taken out then audio quality comes down to the headphones/speackers you plug into them.

The adaptor will just be a DAC for backward compatibility with old retro headphones and speakers.

This issue about Apple removing things has always gone on as Apple moves forward when others watch then copy, take the floppy disc drive, Apple supported SONY's floppy format from day one and when time was right stopped, optical drives also gone...

USB, replaced the old serial and parallel port, did anyone complain about that yes, now no USB way way better these people just can't help complain for what is good for them.
We find it funny because we can do this NOW. Even the iPhone 5 has a lightning connector and Bluetooth.

I just got a nice set of Bluetooth headphones for my birthday. I got Bluetooth earbuds last birthday. I have got some nice old Sony earbuds from 1995 also. And when lightning headphones become "a thing" I'm sure somebody will get me one of those for my birthday, because let's face it, my family gets stuck for ideas. Fortunately I am a gadget nut and love tech. :D

At any rate, I could take any of those headphones, and without any adapters, use them on my iPhone SE, my iPhone 6S plus...and my Samsung Note 7 that's on order as a combo birthday and anniversary gift. ;)

This hypothetical future that Apple is rumored to be pushing and other manufacturers already are pushing actually sees my options dwindling, not expanding. Pfft. :(

The 3.5 mm jack is still a viable third option that so far, judging from the size of the feature packed devices that have them, require no sacrifice to keep. Backing any company's decision to exclude this option without offering a cool new feature in return, goes against my best interests as a consumer. I'm not here to support my options dwindling from three to two for no good reason.

It would only make sense if they are struggling to get everything they want to offer in the smaller SE form factor. The very existence of the Note 7 with a freaking pen inside of it and IP68 water resistant body shows how much you can pack into a chassis the size of iPhone 6S plus without having to lose the headphone jack. It was snarky, to be sure, but a point well made.
 
Who sells twice as many phones as Samsung? Not Apple. Thats for sure.

No one sells as many phones as Samsung and thats a fact my friend :)

Sure, Samsung sells many more $0-99 phones (many without Android) than Apple, because Apple doesn't compete in that low end market.

Apple sells twice as many high-end smart phones as Samsung. And that's a fact, my friend.
 
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Who sells twice as many phones as Samsung? Not Apple. Thats for sure.

No one sells as many phones as Samsung and thats a fact my friend :)
arrrgh... will this conversation ever end.

When it comes to flagship phones, I think apple is selling more and those are the only sales numbers that can really be compared IMHO.
 
And if you don't like it, then maybe you shouldn't be in the Apple ecosystem. I am not trying to be rude or arrogant by telling you to get lost, just that perhaps it is time to reconsider your options as the current ones might no longer meet your needs.

This is exactly what I am doing. I use Pro Tools on my 5 year old Macbook Pro, and need a new computer shortly. The writing is on the wall for us professional level users with this rumor of losing access to an industry standard jack on the most portable of audio devices and the fact that Apple doesn't update it's computer hardware very much anymore underscores it.

I have read for years that Apple no longer cares about the professional.. This is absolute proof that this is in fact the case. There are many more musicians that use the 3.5mm standard that the people on this board are aware of. Apple seems to not care at all about them, in spite of the fact that they creator/distributors of Garageband and Logic.

Why don't you try multi-tracking audio with BT headphones? You will discover really fast that any latency over 10ms makes doing so literally IMPOSSIBLE. People like me know how unusable BT is for audio and video related work tasks. BT headphones are an outright disaster for critical recording or monitoring music.

The music that you enjoy so much is mixed and mastered at least partially with wired headphones (When not being played through monitors (speakers) that you so emphatically call legacy and sound much much better than what you can pick up at bestbuy.com or target.

Lay persons who believe that all audio should be wireless are LITERALLY clueless and it shows when they tell people like me to embrace (wireless) BT. The amount of ignorance displayed here aimed at people who truly love high quality audio and work with audio everyday, is astounding.

The reason I am posting about this is because I know that Apple and other vendors read forums to gauge public opinion and perhaps what I say might resonate. Apple knows that to their true fans, they can do no wrong and I am pretty sure they could offer a cardboard box with a sticker for 800.00 and many of you would buy it.

So going to your point about moving on. I think you are correct sir. I don't think you are being rude, you are just being realistic as I am. It's not you or the other Apple fans telling us to move on. Apple is the one doing it.
 
I don't think you or most people understand the reasons behind moving away from the 50 year old technology of the 3.5mm analog headphone jack. All music files played on any handheld device today are digital. ...

My ears are still analog. There needs to be a converter somewhere in the chain between the digital file and my ears.
 
It's not yet entirely clear why Apple has decided to remove the headphone jack...

Umm, could it be that Apple owns Beats and wants to drive sales of higher-costing wireless headphones?

Oh, and making the device thinner than it already is in the process—considering that's what everyone wants, right Jony? :mad:
 
It's far more likely that this was a jab at Motorola, as they didn't include a headphone jack in the Moto Z.
Are they still a company? </sarc>
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It's not yet entirely clear why Apple has decided to remove the headphone jack...

Umm, could it be that Apple owns Beats and wants to drive sales of higher-costing wireless headphones?

Oh, and making the device thinner than it already is considering that's what everyone wants, right Jony? :mad:
Anyone who says Apple is interested in high quality audio, I would point out the fact that they purchased Beats as proof to the contrary.
 
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Anyone who says Apple is interested in high quality audio, I would point out the fact that they purchased Beats as proof to the contrary.
Haha, sound quality is a subjective opinion, but understood completely.
 
Samsung should try to be as backwards-compatible as possible and add a nice Centronics parallel port to their next products.
 
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