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Please. You started with a strawman with your ridiculous post by implying that Apple buying Beats means Apple doesn't care about quality.

Do you want to take back your original comment?
Was not a strawman and I wasn't implying, I was being very direct. And it isn't ridiculous. Beats headphones eq curved is very much hyped.
 
You don't need the same quality of DAC to run a cellphone Speaker, and mic, that you do a headset port...

That is true... But is this what we're talking about? Saving, let say, $1 per phone to remove 1 chip? Okay, so when you sell 1 million phones, you've made $1 million dollars more than you were before.

If that's the reason, then fine... Lets save money, and Apple with have a more profitable quarter. Lovely.

But to try and dress this up in any way that somehow makes things better for the consumer, I just don't get it...

I suspect this is probably going to happen, but I'm hugely interested in how Apple are going to try and sell it as a win for customers... (They can't even say - you can plug it in either way - because you already can!)
 
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I honestly can't see the big deal really. As long as they ship it with a lightning to headphone adaptor adaptor what difference would it make. For me personally I have not once plugged a a set of headphones into any of my iphones since they launched all those years ago.
 
Thinner designs are subjective. I would like to delve in objective comparison, Samsung or Android has ways to go to catch up to unit battery life from a device. iPhone 6s Plus has a 2750mAh capacity battery while Samsung S7 edge has a 3600mAh capacity battery. For Android to be as efficient as iOS Samsung S7 edge should have had 11.85 hours of battery life from a bigger battery when compared to 6s Plus. And S7 with a larger battery than 6s Plus just cannot match the iPhone.

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What this tells me is Samsung is more interested in increasing battery life by brute force (just increasing capacity) instead of innovating the hardware. I know for sure Samsung cannot innovate on the software, because that falls squarely on Google's shoulders. And looking at plain vanilla Android on the Nexus 6P which has 3450mAh battery capacity, the results are even more disappointing considering there is no overhead of bloat. Android is just not able to match iOS on OS/software optimization.


That's most likely not by choice, there is not much alternative to Android at the price point to majority of the folks who don't want flagship phones.

All I know is I only like the smaller phones, I have a 6S because I found the Galaxy to be too big for me. And when I went to Goodwood Festival Of Speed, a place where you want to take lots of photos and 4K videos. With all the power saving modes on my 6S was incapable of lasting the whole day. That's not good enough in my book.
I should not be forced to buy a phablet 6" screen device just to have a battery last the day!
Last year Samsung increase the thickness of there devices and fitted a bigger battery as a result, it's shameful Apple don't do the same and in fact do the complete opposite. Thinner designs are not subjective at all, NO ONE cried I wish my iPhone 5 was thinner... It's just Apples obsessed with it. Their is making devices more efficient and then theirs removing or reducing functionality to make it thinner which is currently what Apple has been doing. And I refuse to buy that ugly expensive Apple battery case, or indeed any battery pack just to last a day!
 
Not going for the Apple banter crap. Not even worth it... but we DO know that allot more press will result its "out and spoken at a conference*

Media knows how to get attention... :)

Now continue taking my money..
 
All I know is I only like the smaller phones, I have a 6S because I found the Galaxy to be too big for me. And when I went to Goodwood Festival Of Speed, a place where you want to take lots of photos and 4K videos. With all the power saving modes on my 6S was incapable of lasting the whole day. That's not good enough in my book.
I should not be forced to buy a phablet 6" screen device just to have a battery last the day!
Last year Samsung increase the thickness of there devices and fitted a bigger battery as a result, it's shameful Apple don't do the same and in fact do the complete opposite. Thinner designs are not subjective at all, NO ONE cried I wish my iPhone 5 was thinner... It's just Apples obsessed with it. Their is making devices more efficient and then theirs removing or reducing functionality to make it thinner which is currently what Apple has been doing. And I refuse to buy that ugly expensive Apple battery case, or indeed any battery pack just to last a day!

This is more likely due to tons of people in the same area and not enough extra cell towers to serve them. If you had disabled cellular, it would properly had lasted a lot longer.

http://incharged.com/2014/02/25/cell-phone-charging-stations-at-concerts-events/
 
yeah why removing audio jack FOR? Apple still didn't clarify about removing audio jack yet for what purposes.

Apple may not, but the solution is clear elsewhere... High quality audio via Lightning connector, but i guess with digital, u can do allot,, noise cancelling in the phone for one. why do u need spacial earbuds just for this.
 
We will have the full explanation and reasoning like always come the keynote there's no need to tear into it so in depth right now when we're still so in the dark and uninformed.
 
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Who sells twice as many phones as Samsung? Not Apple. Thats for sure.

No one sells as many phones as Samsung and thats a fact my friend :)

Separate Samsung's flagship sales from the likes of Galaxy Y & Galaxy Ace and he's probably more than right. However when you sell phones at £30 to £40 of course there's going to be greater volume.
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yeah why removing audio jack FOR? Apple still didn't clarify about removing audio jack yet for what purposes.
Thats because they haven't actually announced it yet, information is still based on leaks and rumours.
 
It's a good thing then Apple actually acknowledges they cannot remove an headphone jack of desktops/laptops because it will break so many apps.

At least Apple thinks in the right direction (sometimes) :) but know knows what the future will bring..
 
Any reason why Apple cant just add 2 Lightning Ports, so you can charge and use headphones at the same time

There seems to be enough room and it would probably still take up less room internally than the current Headphone Jack. And you would get the better water resistance
 
If that device [the iPhone 7] is shipping without a headphone jack, you'd have to wait for the rumoured iPhone 8 next year to see it return and even then, I can't see Apple putting the headphone jack back in after removing it.
No, see, what they'll do is remove the jack from the iPhone 7, then they'll put it back on the iPhone 8, on the top, where it used to be and where Samsung complained that Apple moved it from. Apple will take out front page ads apologizing to Samsung for moving it from the top of the phone. Then, after Samsung moves the jack back to the top, Apple will remove it again from the iPhone 9. Apple is playing the long con, trolling Samsung, FTW!
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Samsung Phones are superior to the iPhone in all regards when it comes to hardware. Everything is better.
I would ditch the old and poorly designed break-phone immediately IF and only IF iOS would run on Samsung OR Android would be as good as iOS.

Only reason Apple can sell the outdated hardware of the iPhones is iOS. And that I guess is as good a reason as any.

What does one need great hardware for, if it runs Android ?
 
I think that sounds very entitled. Apple don't care about what you want. They'll do what they want with their products and are you really stupid enough to think the iPhone 7 design isn't locked in at this point? Heck, it's probably already in production. If that device is shipping without a headphone jack, you'd have to wait for the rumoured iPhone 8 next year to see it return and even then, I can't see Apple putting the headphone jack back in after removing it. That would be admitting they were wrong.
entitled or not, I paid money to to buy the iPhone 4s and I'm glad that people raised such a stink about the iPhone 4 antenna even with people like you around. I never experienced antennagate, all thanks to complaining people. And apple did admit they were wrong when they changed the antenna design and gave away free bumper cases.
 
entitled or not, I paid money to to buy the iPhone 4s and I'm glad that people raised such a stink about the iPhone 4 antenna even with people like you around. I never experienced antennagate, all thanks to complaining people. And apple did admit they were wrong when they changed the antenna design and gave away free bumper cases.

Yeah! Maybe if you complain enough Apple will give you a free clip-on headphone jack for your iPhone 7!

Vote with your wallet my friend.
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Samsung Phones are superior to the iPhone in all regards when it comes to hardware. Everything is better.
I would ditch the old and poorly designed break-phone immediately IF and only IF iOS would run on Samsung OR Android would be as good as iOS.

Only reason Apple can sell the outdated hardware of the iPhones is iOS. And that I guess is as good a reason as any.

What does one need great hardware for, if it runs Android ?

Apple are a software and services company, on the inside. They make crappy but beautiful hardware and continuously sell you their unrivalled software and services.
 
I don't think you or most people understand the reasons behind moving away from the 50 year old technology of the 3.5mm analog headphone jack. All music files played on any handheld device today are digital. The audio jack requires an analog output, so every device has to have a digital to analog converter chip to convert the file on the fly. It makes sense to just keep the flow of digital to digital. And the biggest port now on any device is the audio jack, so it limits the size to which a device can be manufactured. So why should we stick with 50 year old technology and limit the size of our devices, just for nostalgia? Heck, let's just put the 8mm headphone jack on there too. When you have a look at old pc laptops of the 90's and see the massive serial ports on the back, you cringe. The same will go for the headphone jack.

I think it is you my friend that doesn't understand. The human ear needs an analog signal to hear (sounds are made up of vibrations in varying wave forms). Digital is just 1's and 0's hence the need of a DAC to convert it to analog. The better the DAC, the better the conversion is going to be. If apple include a good inline DAC with their headphones you may notice a slight difference, if it's the same type as they currently use inside their phones you will not notice a difference. Basically the change to lightening headphones is pointless as the digital signal has to be changed at some point, they are just moving something that was once internal to a dongle or to be inline on the headphone cord. Lightening over 3.5mm Jack offers very few advantages.
 
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