Correlation does not imply causation. You should know better. There's no proof whatsoever that their sales are up because of those features. Or that they declined when they were removed.
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Samsung Mocks Apple's Decision to Remove the Headphone Jack in iPhone 7
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Correlation does not imply causation. You should know better. There's no proof whatsoever that their sales are up because of those features. Or that they declined when they were removed.
This is the major issue with this decision... The other things that Apple have removed from devices have always had a better alternative for the user eventually. There is no clear user benefit from removing the audio jack - now, or ten years from now..
And whilst you can argue that there was no clear user benefit for removing the floppy disk at the time, it was clear that the floppy drive's time was approaching...
I am in IT. Everyone in IT knew at that time that the Floppy was useless. It wasn't that big of a deal except for a few people who insisted on loosing data constantly. The Floppy drive was crap.
I disagree... by removing the 3.5m jack, they also remove the preamp, and the DAC, which saves space, and computing power on the handset side of the device... this means, iPhones could potentially become thinner, or have larger screens without having to increase the handset size... they could also use the space to add inductive charging, which, would solve the other problem... how do you charge and listen to music at the same time...
Wow do we have to do this over and over? You have to talk into the phone and listen don't you? The DAC and the amp still have to be in the phone. Get a clue please.
How do you get audio when using the telephone, how do you listen to videos through the built-in speaker.... All of the DACs, amps, computing will all be there regardless of the presence of a audio jack...
Too bad measurements of the iPhones DAC shows it to be outstanding.
To be fair, it was in response to my argument for the audio jack, which has already been repeated over and over!
So I am getting tired of answering the same ignorant statements over and over again by clueless fanbois. Have and enjoy your featureless but stylish iphones. I am moving on.
What I can't figure out is, how can it weight less than the 6s+ with a bigger battery and a higher-resolution screen? I wonder what's in the iPhone that weighs more than the galaxy?
Strawman argument. I agree the DAC on the iphone is excellent. That doesn't make Beats any better.
Please. You started with a strawman with your ridiculous post by implying that Apple buying Beats means Apple doesn't care about quality.
Do you want to take back your original comment?
You don't need the same quality of DAC to run a cellphone Speaker, and mic, that you do a headset port...
Thus the use of my qualifier, "sales are apparently back up because they listened".
Personally I think it's more plausible than that other popularly claimed reason, that the iPhone design has gotten stale and people are moving over to Samsung because of it. But you're right; who knows without a survey.
It's obviously not for the second of your reasons, as this would be achievable through the existing Lightning connection without eliminating the headphone jack.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Correct, we'll be carrying around at least 2 dongles to cover all bases of the fragmented options that will be in play by then: Lightning, USB3C and 3.5mm... though I suspect in 5 years, Lightning will be Lightning 2 due to "thinner" conflicting with the thickness of Lightning as is (so toss the Lightning 1 dongles in a drawer and sub in the Lightning 2 dongles).
Nevertheless, carrying 1-2 dongles will definitely be better than a ubiquitous "just works" (with anything) single standard. Fragmentation is only stupid & ridiculous when the other guys are making such decisions; when Apple decides to drive it, it's genius and the one best decision for everyone.
And before someone pushes Bluetooth again, even in 5 years, I don't foresee Bluetooth ubiquity on par with 3.5mm today. Nor do I foresee Lightning jacks in Airplane seatback screens. I'm not even sure USB3 won't be migrating to USB4 in 5 years.
But hooray for dongles- what all tech needs is more internal utility shifted outside, and into fragile, easily-lost or easily-damaged things hanging off of them. I've always thought the ONE thing iPhones have been missing is a "tail" hanging out of the bottom. Finally my dream can come true.
Even higher end Plantronics: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KJLMBSO/ref=twister_B00RCUP28Q?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
$75. My next pair.
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I don't remember when was the last time I needed to play a CD...
Also, a 3.5mm analog headphone jack is not going to make me switch.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Correct, now it just gets to be a redundant purchase. iPhones will still have the DAC & AMP inside so it can work as a phone and now you'll have to have one OUTSIDE to convert the digital to analog for our ears. Instead of buying one DAC & AMP or instead of putting better-quality ones inside of iPhone if anyone wants to make THAT argument, we now get to buy 2 sets of them.
And sure, that opens up the ability to buy a superior quality DAC & AMP for all of those willing to pay up for superior quality but that goes the other way too. Cheaper could mean a cheaper quality DAC & AMP yielding an inferior quality of sound from Lightning-connected headphones. Will average Joes be knowledgable enough NOT to be seduced by price?
And why can't THAT "better quality ejected to accessory" argument be applied to ejecting anything else INSIDE the iPhone in the next generation? Certainly a superior quality battery could be ejected out to a sold-seperately purchase. Camera could be significantly better ejected out to third party options. Etc. Slippery slope.
Hopefully, those are the reasons. On the other hand, I’m sure Apple’s hardware designers hate how the hole ruins the symmetry of adjacent details, etc., etc.
Best part about this is watching the apple fanboys struggle to defend the moronic decision to remove the headphone jack.
The MacBook is the only bit of Apple tech I'd buy the rest does nothing for me.
I think that's probably true but folks want to be offended so I just let it go