Hmmmm Samsung, all that sticks in my head is whilst buying an iPhone case in the Car Phone Warehouse shop earlier this year somebody was buying one of their phones in front of me at the till. The sales assistant asked them if they wanted any help setting up the antivirus on the Samsung phone . WTF?!?
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Samsung Mocks Apple's Decision to Remove the Headphone Jack in iPhone 7
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Who sells twice as many phones as Samsung? Not Apple. Thats for sure.
No one sells as many phones as Samsung and thats a fact my friend
Who makes a fraction of the profits in the same mobile space. That would be Samsung. In fact, they've been losing billions needing the greater Samsung conglomeration to subsidize it.
Do you guys really not see how inane you sound when you say this? Why is it always a Samsung versus Apple thing with some fans? Just enjoy your phone, be happy that Samsung released such a strong phone that Apple will bring all its guns blazing with the iPhone 7. That competition benefits you, but I never figured out where the weird hatred for a company comes from. Especially with something as utterly dumb as "copied". All these companies copy from each other and Apple certainly has their fair share of copying from others and from Samsung. But once again who cares? Is it hurting your financially, or personally?
Callllllllllled it! Expecting a commercial advertising their headphone jack once the 7 comes out.
The reason why the lightning headphones sound clearer is because the headphones are using the dac chip built into the cable or in the headphones themselves, not the dac on the phone itself. 3.5mm jack headphones use the phone's dac. The audio tests would be valid if both lightning and 3.5mm used the same dac chip for audio output but they don't so those tests are pretty much worthless.
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I was responding in the context that THIS WEBSITE was reporting on it. But let's be real. Were they really mocking the Moto Z? There has been *so* much outcry about the removal of the headphone jack on *that* particular phone.
What is sad about this is that Apple will most likely continue to use the 5400 rpm spindles for another half a decade along with 7200 rpm which are not that much faster anyway.
Wow, that took some real clairvoyance there, you should try picking lottery numbers next
But you can actually do this today. Other than lack of interest, there's nothing stopping you. There are headphones with Lightning connectors and an integrated, high-quality DAC on the market today. You don't need to Apple to remove the headphone port to get this functionality.I care. I want the highest quality audio I can get. If Apple can give me that for no extra money besides the cost of the phone, I'll gladly stop using my old headphones in favor of the new ones. But if they throw in their old EarPods and give us an adapter...
One example:
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/HJLS2VC/A/audeze-el-8-titanium-closed-back-headphones
You're not going to get it for no extra money besides the cost of the phone. High quality DACs are expensive, and either you'll need a universal one to use with all of your headphones, or you'll need to buy multiple headphones that include them.
They didn't make any statement about Apple (just the factual statement that the N7 has a headphone jack).
You do know that ALL speakers are analog right? And that all corded headphones are capable of playing 24Bit/192Khz recordings (as long as the media and dac support it) right?
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Um...All speakers are analog.
Wrong. But they are great at creating flashy specs for marketing to knobs that obsess over that stuff. I'll take real world performance and usability over specs any day.
It's likely partly a legal trade dress defense. A big name on a device is a mark that helps prevent Apple from claiming that consumers are "confused" about whether something is an iPhone or not.
(For example, the makers of Excedrin PM sued the makers of Tylenol PM, for using a similar "PM" name, colors, even box visuals. They lost the case because the court ruled the name "Tylenol" was well known enough to alert the consumer.)
That's not even close to being a "fact".
Samsung Electronic's mobile division has consistently made billions in profit each quarter.
Do they make as much profit per phone as Apple? No, nobody does. But you know what? Their lower priced devices, along with billions invested to help create the world cellular networks, are the drivers that allowed the entire world... rich or poor... to go mobile over the past two decades.
That incredible world network is a ready made marketplace that Apple came late to, and rode on the back of. The iPhone could not exist without it.
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As for mocking not having a headphone jack, yeah, companies should avoid making fun of anything that their competitors do, since they themselves might do the same thing later. It can often come back to haunt them.
For example, like how Apple claimed 4" was the perfect screen size, or that smaller tablets would require sandpapered fingertips
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The only different it can be is a different dac and/or amp. All speakers are analog.
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Then don't bother with an iphone at all. Go high-res audio with a massive DAC and amp and get some real high end headphones. The lightning connector will not get you any better audio.
I'll admit that Apple's margins have nothing to do with what phones I buy. I find I am the most satisfied with what happens to be the more expensive product in the smartphone space, and so I live with the higher price because to me it's worth the extra money. If somebody else were offering a comparable product for my use case at a cheaper price, then I might get up in arms about Apple's margins.
Exactly, if Apple includes lightning EarPods (or "AirPods") with the iPhone 7 then I will be completely on board. If they don't, I will not be buying another iPhone until they do. I've never been a $200 headphones kind of guy, and I expect the headphones shipped with the device to work without an adapter.
the digital to digital argument is nonsense.
You will need a DAC somewhere along the line. whether it be on your phone, powered by your phone's own battery..or your headphones...powered presumably by your headphones battery, or in the case of a lightning cable, also by your phone's battery.
Either way, it's a solution for a problem that no one had when everyone was still using the 3.5mm jack.
by the way, are you finding that the iphone 6 is too thick? Is that why you want to remove the jack? lol
I understand the arguments fine thanks, I just don't think any of them (or indeed all of them taken together) are good enough reasons to remove the standard 3.5mm headphone socket. Something being old and analogue doesn't inherently make it worse. If you want to spend more on a superior DAC that's fine, more power to you, but everyone can do that already if they want to, regardless of the standard 3.5mm headphone jack socket that is still by far the most popular way to connect headphones in the world today, and I would wager still will be long after the next iPhone has been discontinued.
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