The quality of audio produced from the digital data transmitted via lightning port will not improve after 3.5mm jack is removed. It'll stay exactly the same and will depend on the quality of the external DAC and amplifier (as it always was)
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Samsung Mocks Apple's Decision to Remove the Headphone Jack in iPhone 7
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The quality of audio produced from the digital data transmitted via lightning port will not improve after 3.5mm jack is removed. It'll stay exactly the same and will depend on the quality of the external DAC and amplifier (as it always was)
it is not the same thing at all.
When the Floppy was removed hard drives had gotten cheaper, and larger, so you no longer really had to worry about 1.44mb of space. And there was a thriving market in faster, more capacious external media (Syquest anyone?).
Likewise, when the optical was removed, most folks had already been using cloud and streaming services for a while instead of dealing with shiny spinny disks.
I have yet to see a single lightning connector headphone in the wild.
It's just not there. Apple is trying to force a shift that is not needed.
If the iPhone 7 is a dud, expect someone to be Debbie Wasserman Schultzed.
I feel it's still relevant because it's still so widely used. It's so simple, low cost, and common amongst all forms of technology being laptops, cameras, audio devices, phones, handheld game consoles, you name it, it has the 3.5mm jack. It flat out just seems arrogant of Apple to disregard it so quickly without even presenting another viable alternative.
Bluetooth I feel isn't there yet. They're high cost, battery life isn't the best, and most audiophiles cringe at their sound quality. Apple's solution is either lightning headphones, which, won't work in any other device other than another iPhone or iPad. Not even my MacbookPro or iMac will be able to use them. They claim they're so against fragmentation and here they are presenting two device only headphones when a universal option exists.
Their other solution is a supposed adapter? Carrying around an adapter or using single use headphones such as lightning headphones both seem like a giant step backwards. They also both seem like a VERY obvious way for Apple to monetize on something that was fine before.
I'm sorry, I just don't get it. For the record I didn't care about them taking off dvd drives off their laptops or any of the other changes they made to push us into the future. They made those decisions at the right time with other viable options already in place to justify their decisions but this seems wrong and premature.
I've had the iPhone since the 3g and I currently own a 6. I personally dislike Android so I have no options there but I may just pickup a 6s Plus when the 7 comes out and HOPE enough people react for them to bring it back for future iPhones.
Huh? No. I can use an 8K UHD TV in the exact same way I use a 4K or HD TV. The use case is identical, and doesn't require the user to carry anything additional around to get the extra resolution. The DAC stays either in the TV or the receiver and doesn't move to an adapter.
That is not a very good analogy. At all.
What's a headphone jack?
Just when you think you know what a headphone jack is, you see headphones that can just get out of the way. And a connection you can use, even while swimming. When you see a headphone jack that can do all that, it might just make you realize "Hey, this thing is wireless!"
Imagine what your headphone jack could do, if your headphone jack didn't exist.
I would agree with you... but only if we used headphones just when we are swimming
If and when Android phones have fingerprint sensors and the apps recognize them (universally like TouchID does), then I would probably switch. But it's just too damn nice using TouchID to log into many of my sites...it's really the only thing keeping me from switching. I have a Moto X Pure Ed as my 2nd phone (on a different carrier) and I really like it, but the convenience of that TouchID makes it for me.
I was having fun with this new commercialI would agree with you... but only if we used headphones just when we are swimming
Who sells twice as many phones as Samsung? Not Apple. Thats for sure.
No one sells as many phones as Samsung and thats a fact my friend
You are correct. Samsung sells a bunch of low end phones that make them bupkis in profit, and then they sell a couple of flagship phones that are totally outsold by Apple's iPhone.
Next year's Galaxy S8 presentation: "And look folks. We've removed the 3.5 mm headphone jack! What innovation!"
Apple hasn't said anything, are you mistaking internet opinion and conjecture for facts from Apple?
I don't think you understand how this works... If the phone still has a built in speaker (or in the typical modern smart phone, 2 (one in the earpiece and another much louder one located on the bottom)), then the DAC will still be present. Honest question, do you understand that? There is no way to get around that. The earpiece speaker or the louder speaker that is at a minimum used for playing the ring tone, but also plays music, audio from games, etc. require a DAC, regardless of the headphone connectivity.
If it is already there, why not include the headphone jack? This whole "it's to remove the DAC and innovate" argument is dead on arrival.
The first generation iPod touch did not have any speakers present on it. Number one requested feature for the second generation iPod touch was a built in speaker. Thus, onboard DAC needed.
This has nothing to do with innovation, just removal of a feature as the other guy already stated.
Better quality, assuming you're listening to music encoded in Apple Lossless or FLAK, and let's be honest here: how many folks are doing that? For the rest of us listening to Pandora and Spotify, or 192k AAC iTunes downloads, you're not going to notice a difference.
From the videos I've seen on lightning headphones though, when the tester has listened to the same piece of music via the 3.5mm port and then used the lightning port cable (the headphones tested came with two cables, 3.5mm and lightning connectors). They have all commented on how much clearer and also an increased audio level was got through lightning.
Hate to admit it, but Samsung is right.
If anything it's now a burden because people will have to carry around the adapter (great, let me get my purse for all this accessory crap)
• Have a set or normal headphones? You'll need the adapter
• Want to plug-in to a friends speakers? You'll need the adapter
• Aux input on your buddies car? You'll need the adapter
Just all around very annoying and with NO PAYOFF...
...maybe a slightly thinner phone - but who cares because Apple still has that super ugly rear camera sticking out. So thinner doesn't matter at this point.
Oh better audio quality you say? Tell that to people listening to mp3's. We don't care. No one does..
Shrugs all around...
If anything it's now a burden because people will have to carry around the adapter (great, let me get my purse for all this accessory crap)
• Have a set or normal headphones? You'll need the adapter
• Want to plug-in to a friends speakers? You'll need the adapter
• Aux input on your buddies car? You'll need the adapter
Just all around very annoying and with NO PAYOFF...
...maybe a slightly thinner phone - but who cares because Apple still has that super ugly rear camera sticking out. So thinner doesn't matter at this point.
Oh better audio quality you say? Tell that to people listening to mp3's. We don't care. No one does..
Shrugs all around...
And next year they'll talk about how innovative and revolutionary the Galaxy Note8 is for removing the headphone jack. Yawn...
CD drives were becoming obsolete, flash was on the downturn and used insane amounts of resources. The headphone jack has obsolutely none of those deficiencies. It is perfect, and has an insane catalog of device support, since it has been around forever
Lol, it's amusing to see Apple fanboys get all bent out of shape over this. Personally I agree with Apple if the rumors are true, ditch the headphone jack. I've been using Bluetooth headphones for 7 or 8 years now and they have evolved so much.
I am curious to see what Apple does though. Samsung has an IP68 rated phone with an audio jack AND a freakin stylus, yet the rumors are that the iPhone 7 will be "more" waterproof than now yet far from IP68, whatever that means. I do applaud Apple for making thinner phones, yet having improved battery life every cycle. In contrast the Note 7 actually is thicker than the Note 5 for a 500mah gain.
I am curious to see what Apple does though. Samsung has an IP68 rated phone with an audio jack AND a freakin stylus, yet the rumors are that the iPhone 7 will be "more" waterproof than now yet far from IP68, whatever that means. I do applaud Apple for making thinner phones, yet having improved battery life every cycle. In contrast the Note 7 actually is thicker than the Note 5 for a 500mah gain.
I care. I want the highest quality audio I can get. If Apple can give me that for no extra money besides the cost of the phone, I'll gladly stop using my old headphones in favor of the new ones. But if they throw in their old EarPods and give us an adapter...
12 months later the entire industry will want to license Apple's lightning port adapter technology for headphones and other output to digital input source devices.
TV/Motion Picture people will leverage hardware tethered to these lightning ports and use their live in action moments tethered to an iPhone or iPad with these new input/output jacks with continuity and cloud services to relay data assets to be stored into the cloud and later broadcast anywhere else from the cloud, etc.
TV/Motion Picture people will leverage hardware tethered to these lightning ports and use their live in action moments tethered to an iPhone or iPad with these new input/output jacks with continuity and cloud services to relay data assets to be stored into the cloud and later broadcast anywhere else from the cloud, etc.