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Even if this were an impressive feature, the cameras are good enough at this point for normies like me who don't need better. This is NOT a selling point. The difference between these two is so small.
Samsung, tell me how your phone makes my digital life more secure, more naturally integrated into my real life, and more useful all at the same time...yeah, didn't think so. You don't control the software on there, except you kinda do requiring a Sumsung account to use your phone. Also, how's Bixby doing?
 
Are you thinking about mechanical zoom? What other problems would we be asking for?

Periscope lenses solve the problem anyway. These will be great in 2022/2023

And likely create new ones...

With a periscope lens, light is immediately shifted 90 degrees by a prism. It then travels much further than in a normal lens, passing through multiple elements before reaching the image sensor. This distance means potential for far greater optical zooming. The lens elements move back and forth as the user adjusts the zoom level of their camera app — just as how the elements of an SLR camera lens move when you rotate it to zoom in and out on a subject.

That from here. They 'move back and forth'? For how long? And what about 'you are holding it wrong', and 'bendgate'. How can Apple maintain the operation of sliding lenses in an iPhone?
 
Imagine trying to convince someone to buy your $1000 device based on the extra detail you may see on a picture of your grilled cheese sandwich

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wow.
so apparently there's a man who can hold a samsung phone dead still with like 0 vibration, while it is zoomed to 100%.
hell, it is almost impossible to do so even if the phone is secured to a reasonable quality tripod.

also, nice touch on the the jerky iphone12 zoom. guess what, i also zoom in on some of the photos with all my iPhones, but i never felt anything like this... so totally legit.
 
They have 10 x optical zoom.
Certainly. I’m just saying I will take an optical zoom over any “digital” zoom. But in the end anything more than 5x in a zoom incurs penalties in the lens design process and you’re already losing sharpness and clarity. Factor in a tiny sensor and it just has a lot of compromises. Good enough certainly for some but not for those who have gotten used to quality image files from dedicated devices.
 
I’m honestly getting tired of the new phones. All that’s new is camera stuff and I don’t use my phones to take professional grade images. Phones have gotten so boring sine iPhone 6.
 
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Digital zoom is dumb...but don’t they have periscope lenses now? That’s a huge competitive advantage. Who cares about how bad a digital picture you can take.
 
Look at social media photos. Most phone users cannot take a good picture with a fixed lens. The pro side of things, small niche, could be a win.
 
As a self proclaimed photography nerd, can you help me understand how to crop an unfocused white blob into a shot of the moon that shows craters and other definition? Whenever I shoot the moon with the 12 Pro Max, it is a fuzzy white spot.

With the 10x of the Samsung, it might look fuzzy, but you can at least see the definition of the features on the moon.

Now, is that a reason to buy on smartphone over another? Not really. But I would like a better camera than I have on my 12 Pro Max. 1) the zoom is not good enough, though I like the wide angle addition and 2) many many shots are way too warm and not representative of what I see.
First...you don’t take astronomy photos with a phone.
 
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It’s ridiculous to say they were “poking fun” at anyone. They were simply highlighting how their new phone has a better zoom function than the iPhone. That seems fair to me.
yeah but this is macrumors. If apple does it, it's great. If anyone else does it, it's trying too hard, no one's ever going to use it etc.

Go ahead people, Hit the downvote button and prove my point even further.
 
I realize this is a fanboy site, but don't we want better for our iphones? Putting aside the "fake" 100x digital zoom, the Samsung 10x optical zoom is far better than anything Apple has in market (2.5x). People are commenting "sad", but that will change to "excited" when Apple finally catches up.
 
Yeah, good one. The Samsung phone is newer, so, duh?
Let's talk about Samsung apps and services installed and running on top of Android, and the general Android-Sammy experience before we pick on Apple's one so-called limitation.

Low light photos on the Samsung Galaxy phones has been years head of the iPhone for a while, so it's not just "the phone is newer".
 
so sad..... comparing a phone that is almost a year older, and with a feature that no one cares about.
 
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Ok, so I played with this feature on a friend’s phone, and it’s totally a joke. The photos are a smeary mess. They look so grainy and just aren’t good. I would like to see the 10x optical zoom on an iPhone, But at least Apple knows their limits on their digital zoom. I can replicate their 100x digital zoom by cropping my photos all the way down.
 
I realize this is a fanboy site, but don't we want better for our iphones? Putting aside the "fake" 100x digital zoom, the Samsung 10x optical zoom is far better than anything Apple has in market (2.5x). People are commenting "sad", but that will change to "excited" when Apple finally catches up.

well you're right. we should get more zoom, and more importantly: better zoom. i have an iPhone 8 Plus (i know, it's from 2017) the zoom quality is so bad.
 
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