Samsung Portable SSD T5 revealed

[lobo1978]

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Apparently Angelbirds SSD2GOPKT supports it: https://www.angelbird.com/prod/ssd2go-pkt-1031/?category=2
I have this drive

Why will you need TRIM with new apple format coming? The new file format will support SSD in a first place.
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Because I like gadgets (and I was still in return window when T5 appeared) I have finally upgraded from T3 to T5. I have to pay more but I think it was a good move. No much of a noticeable speed bump in real life (benchmarks are 450/495 MB/s for 1 TB - SSD 73% full). But drive managed to get encrypted (apple FileVault) quicker than T3. Samsung BS software was not supported in Sierra. Oh well, as usual Samsung seems to put two saddles on one horse.

I sort of liked more previous design as rubber part was holding the drive in place. On the other hand, all black aluminium enclosure of T5 is kinda sexy. Me like it.

 

[Clix Pix]

The other day I was able to pick up a 2 TB T5 at my local Microcenter; haven't used it yet, but did go ahead and reformat it for my Macs. I have a couple of T1s and T3s and have liked them very much so getting a T5 now was a no-brainer.

 

[Marx55]

The other day I was able to pick up a 2 TB T5 at my local Microcenter; haven't used it yet, but did go ahead and reformat it for my Macs. I have a couple of T1s and T3s and have liked them very much so getting a T5 now was a no-brainer.

Do you have benchmarks? Thanks.

 

[ZapNZs]

If anyone is curious, on a MacBook with USB-C 3.1 gen 1, I'm getting about 400 MB/s read and 400 MB/s write with a 512 GB model. That's not bad considering the limitation imposed by gen 1.

 

[Clix Pix]

Do you have benchmarks? Thanks.

Finally got around to doing some backing-up and other things today with my T3s and my T5 and everything proceeded very speedily. I don't have any benchmark figures, but it seems to me that the new T5 is a bit faster than the T3, although not extraordinarily so. Certainly fast enough for my purposes!

 

[Marx55]

I don't have any benchmark figures, but it seems to me that the new T5 is a bit faster than the T3, although not extraordinarily so.

Could you share the 2TB model Samsung Portable SSD T5 benchmarks with applications like QuickBench (Intech), Disk Speed Test (Blackmagic) or similar? Thanks.

 

[Clix Pix]

Sorry, but I don't do benchmarks and such; that's a little more technical than I need to be and have time to do. I'm sure that there are others on the web who have already done this, though. It's the same way that I approach photography: I"m not into "pixel-peeping," either and just choose the camera and lens that I feel will be right for the job I have in mind. I can say that if someone does not have any external SSD at all and is looking for a good one, IMHO the Samsung T5 line is the way to go. Now that the T5 is available, for those who already have a T3 and need another external SSD there also may be good sale prices on the older versions. Just starting out? Might as well go with the T5 from the get-go.

 

[HaddockW]

Not a T5 but I am loving my two portable 850 EVOs in a Striped configuration. 820MB/sec read and write average BUS powered portable. Real world matches synthetic. Leaves the t5 in the dust.. RAID0 though which is fine as I have 4 backups with 2 live hot rsync running every 15 minutes.

 

[Marx55]

RAID0 though which is fine as I have 4 backups with 2 live hot rsync running every 15 minutes.

Do you have IOPS for random read/write?

 

[KUKitch]

Portable SSD would be a nice thing to have in the future - can't wait until they're super-sizable and comparable in price to HDDs these days... we've got about 16 TB of external HDDs for Plex media - SSDs would be such an improvement. Nice to see what Samsung is doing with these

 

[lobo1978]

Not a T5 but I am loving my two portable 850 EVOs in a Striped configuration. 820MB/sec read and write average BUS powered portable. Real world matches synthetic. Leaves the t5 in the dust.. RAID0 though which is fine as I have 4 backups with 2 live hot rsync running every 15 minutes.

Very interesting - any details on HW config behind it? Apart from 850evo of course.

Details on how you backed up Raid 0 will be much appreciated

 

[HaddockW]

Very interesting - any details on HW config behind it? Apart from 850evo of course.

Details on how you backed up Raid 0 will be much appreciated

I posted this on another thread but no one was interested so I went ahead with it and bought it.
I've run in 8 hours and the enclosure never gets warm.

Original Thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/anything-better-than-this-340-usb-c-gen-2-1tb-ssd-raid.2063734/

Here is a youtube video of it in action, 800, around 820-860 MB/sec read and write "real world." Not just synthetic but real world.

My total out of pocket was $338 w/ 2 EVO drives.
$338. Way cheaper than the T5 1TB at almost double the speed. I give up size for speed.

I do rsync to 2 file servers, free-nas and a QNAP NAS. When I am in my home IP network, it pings very 15 minutes to see if the server is online (which it is) and rsync my files. I also use a Drobo, a Lacie, multiple 3.5" to backup. I even got a 5th backup with a $50 1TB 2.5" Western Digital. I pick those every other 4 weeks when they go on sale. So I have no worries about losing the RAID. I have almost 6X redundancy across my backups. I am that paranoid. But man, 800MB sec is sooooo sweet.

 

[alien3dx]

I posted this on another thread but no one was interested so I went ahead with it and bought it.
I've run in 8 hours and the enclosure never gets warm.

Original Thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/anything-better-than-this-340-usb-c-gen-2-1tb-ssd-raid.2063734/

Here is a youtube video of it in action, 800, around 820-860 MB/sec read and write "real world." Not just synthetic but real world.

My total out of pocket was $338 w/ 2 EVO drives.
$338. Way cheaper than the T5 1TB at almost double the speed. I give up size for speed.

I do rsync to 2 file servers, free-nas and a QNAP NAS. When I am in my home IP network, it pings very 15 minutes to see if the server is online (which it is) and rsync my files. I also use a Drobo, a Lacie, multiple 3.5" to backup. I even got a 5th backup with a $50 1TB 2.5" Western Digital. I pick those every other 4 weeks when they go on sale. So I have no worries about losing the RAID. I have almost 6X redundancy across my backups. I am that paranoid. But man, 800MB sec is sooooo sweet.

i thinking to by this "http://pcdepot.com.my/wd-my-passport-ssd-256gb-usb31-hdd-sil-718037854120"
Some video on youtube pro-claim usb 3.1 gen 2.. But i'm not sure how it will improved the speed of my xcode and android compiling. My old laptop also using ssd and not much diffirent with platter disk imac2017 base model.

 

[imaginex20]

Probably not for you.

But remember... it's still an mSATA drive inside... with a SATA-to-USB controller and all of its overhead. There are limits and it looks like they're approaching them.

Also... larger capacities are usually faster due to an increased number of chips inside. What size do you have?

Notice the comment above... they're hitting 474MB/s and 505MB/s on a 1TB model.

I have the 500 GB T3 Drive.

 

[Fishrrman]

RE the graphic in post 139 above:

You are getting about "the max" of what is theoretically possible.
That's a good thing.

 

[Marx55]

Does someone have IOPS random read/write performance benchmarks for any Samsung Portable SSD T5 (and specially the 2TB model)?

 

[putnik]

Any way to support TRIM on macOS or force trim on Windows?

[doublepost=1505219907][/doublepost]I have a couple of Samsung T5 250Gb SSD's which I have formatted "APFS Encrypted". They function absolutely fine, using Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) v5 for MacOS 13 High Sierra.

Make sure the disk is encrypted before use, as encryption from FileVault afterwards, can take days to complete.

Note that APFS does not work for HDD's at present.

 

[MrX8503]

[doublepost=1505219907][/doublepost]I have a couple of Samsung T5 250Gb SSD's which I have formatted "APFS Encrypted". They function absolutely fine, using Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) v5 for MacOS 13 High Sierra.

Make sure the disk is encrypted before use, as encryption from FileVault afterwards, can take days to complete.

Note that APFS does not work for HDD's at present.

Does APFS help the longevity of the drive? Unless there's aggressive garbage collection, I prefer TRIM.

 

[putnik]

Does APFS help the longevity of the drive? Unless there's aggressive garbage collection, I prefer TRIM.

I'm trying to find out abut TRIM myself. As far as life and speed, these are now going to be subject to much discussion.

 

[Clix Pix]

According to what I have read, people's current external drives (HD and SSD) will work with High Sierra; I hope that is indeed the case! I have been wondering about that and if at some point it will be necessary to reformat my drives.....

 

[EugW]

According to what I have read, people's current external drives (HD and SSD) will work with High Sierra; I hope that is indeed the case! I have been wondering about that and if at some point it will be necessary to reformat my drives.....

High Sierra maintains full compatibility with HFS+ of course.

 

[Clix Pix]

Thanks! All of my drives are formatted to HFS+ so no problem, then! First thing I always do when purchasing a new external drive is to reformat it unless it is already formatted for the Mac.

 

[cksdigi]

I bought a 500GB T5 and am very happy with the performance. This is my first Samsung product; I'm using it as storage for my iTunes library. I will certainly buy a 1TB T5 as well; I'm very impressed with spot-on transfer rates and small form factor. Mine barely gets warm, even after sustained transfers. Nice product.

I just bought this one too. Love the look, love the size...but I cannot partition the drive, nor can I encrypt it. Were you able to do this????
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Finally got around to doing some backing-up and other things today with my T3s and my T5 and everything proceeded very speedily. I don't have any benchmark figures, but it seems to me that the new T5 is a bit faster than the T3, although not extraordinarily so. Certainly fast enough for my purposes!

Seems like you may know, based on some of your posts. Any tips to format a new T5 for a new MacBook Pro (Sierra)? I see the SSD in DiskUtility, but cannot partition it, nor can I change to encrypted. Or is this normal? Thanks for your tips.

 

[EugW]

I just bought this one too. Love the look, love the size...but I cannot partition the drive, nor can I encrypt it. Were you able to do this????

Seems like you may know, based on some of your posts. Any tips to format a new T5 for a new MacBook Pro (Sierra)? I see the SSD in DiskUtility, but cannot partition it, nor can I change to encrypted. Or is this normal? Thanks for your tips.

Disk Utility has been flaky in general IMO. But yes I could partition it. I didn't try encryption.

 

[jmoore5196]

I just bought this one too. Love the look, love the size...but I cannot partition the drive, nor can I encrypt it. Were you able to do this????
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I confess I haven't tried, since my usage since purchase has been for my iTunes library. I'm a demon for encryption normally, but I haven't felt the need to try since I cannot imagine anyone who would want to hack my iTunes stash.