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Correct me if I'm wrong, but on what planet does Samsung think these won't be declared FRAND? Seems like an incredible waste of time and money by Samsung...
 
I just came from a Samsung phone.... they not bout to mess my ios experience up bruh. Not on my watch. They going to loose regardless , apple got to much cake to loose a case to patent" reasons.

wow. just wow
 
How many would this add now?

Just keep these coming....

I don't even understand this one... Why is Samsung going after Apple ?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but on what planet does Samsung think these won't be declared FRAND? Seems like an incredible waste of time and money by Samsung...

In fact, I believe that Samsung's lawsuit claims that a couple are essential patents.

FRAND doesn't mean free. The lawsuit is partly because Samsung says they told Apple they infringed on those essential patents back in 2010, but Apple hasn't paid any royalties yet.

If someone uses your patents and doesn't even negotiate for them, an injunction is possible. Although with the slowness of these trials, it could be too late by the time a decision is made. I think Judge Koh gave both sides an extension until at least the end of the year (?) to gather evidence.
 
Samsung copies everything Apple does

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Even down to the blue shirts employees wear lol.

of course. We all know that Apple was the first company to have their employees wear blue shirts.

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You can't make a patent on notifications?!? Are you going to sue me cause I text my friend to tell him his pop tarts are ready?!? Really...? Are you going to sue me cause I made a native 16:9 ration screen?! Not that it's not what most media is broadcast as... You can patent that... This is gonna go nowhere. It's getting too rediculous and a judge is goin to tell both of them to **** off an quit whining
 
Its the LTE chip technology they are suing for. HTC and Samsung came up with it or something, idk Im kinda ignorant to that part. But they came up with the technology to connect with LTE. Really stupid.

Didnt apple make their own LTE chip? I mean even if they copied the Samsung LTE chip and added a few other things to make it different, isnt it a different product?
 
It would be like patenting cooking food with heat... Ridiculous!


I don't know why everyone is saying Samsung is ridiculous for doing this. Apple is doing the same thing and you guys preach them like apple is god. Wait till the crap hits the fan. The bigger company will come out on top. Samsung has 50x the money to burn than apple.

Both companies steal ideas. Anyone who thinks that APPLE hasn't done it or is still doing it, is really brainwashed. Samsung does it. Sony does it. Phillips does it. THEY ALL DO IT. This is the first real threat to apple. So of course they are going to go after it. But what's good for the goose is good for the gander.


James
 
Didnt apple make their own LTE chip? I mean even if they copied the Samsung LTE chip and added a few other things to make it different, isnt it a different product?

Just because the chip works in a different way in functionality (No LTE and Voice at the same time) doesn't mean the way it connects to the LTE networks isn't infringing on the patents.
 
Just because the chip works in a different way in functionality (No LTE and Voice at the same time) doesn't mean the way it connects to the LTE networks isn't infringing on the patents.

Its stupid in the first place for that patent to even be allowed. Its like patenting how an engine starts, or how we connect through wifi, that stuff should never be allowed to be patented.
 
Good luck Samsung because little do people know that for the iPhone 5, Apple decided not to use Samsung for the 4G functionality. Instead Apple approached Motorola to make the 4G module for them under license. Samsung you idiots.
It's a Qualcomm chip in the iPhone 5. ;)
Motorola had nothing to do with it.

Didnt apple make their own LTE chip? I mean even if they copied the Samsung LTE chip and added a few other things to make it different, isnt it a different product?
No they didn't make it, see above and adding something to a patented product doesn't absolve one from having to pay for the underlying patented components.
 
In fact, I believe that Samsung's lawsuit claims that a couple are essential patents.

FRAND doesn't mean free. The lawsuit is partly because Samsung says they told Apple they infringed on those essential patents back in 2010, but Apple hasn't paid any royalties yet.

If someone uses your patents and doesn't even negotiate for them, an injunction is possible. Although with the slowness of these trials, it could be too late by the time a decision is made. I think Judge Koh gave both sides an extension until at least the end of the year (?) to gather evidence.

Yep i know it doesn't mean free, i just meant wouldn't Samsung be forced to license if they're declared FRAND? And wouldn't they be just by the nature of the patents? If they weren't, it would set a precedent that Samsung can pick and choose who they want to license to and theoretically get a monopoly on 4g phones.

Unless I'm mistaking what FRAND means, and what SEPs are, i see no way these won't be declared FRAND.

If Apple refused to pay royalties, then that makes sense
 
The people that will boycott Samsung products are the same people that were not going to buy one at the first place...

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They can't afford it

I'm sure there are 10's of thousands of people who have Apple iPhones with Samsung TV's and possibly even appliances. Heck, I am the first to admit I'll buy anything samsung that's not a phone.

ie. Netbook (4 yrs ago), fridge, washer, dryer, 46" tv, 55" led tv, hard drives, memory, optical drives, and I can probably keep going with the list. When it comes to tablets and phones, I rather go with Apple.
 
Yep i know it doesn't mean free, i just meant wouldn't Samsung be forced to license if they're declared FRAND? And wouldn't they be just by the nature of the patents? If they weren't, it would set a precedent that Samsung can pick and choose who they want to license to and theoretically get a monopoly on 4g phones.

Unless I'm mistaking what FRAND means, and what SEPs are, i see no way these won't be declared FRAND.

If Apple refused to pay royalties, then that makes sense

Isnt it like how sony has the patients to bluray,and MS is going to have BR in the 720 and sony has to license it to them
 
I guess the best defense is an offensive. But it's clear that Samsung copied the success model if the iPhone who wouldn't? All the other companies did too. Samsung was just too stupid and made it more oblivious , legally speaking.
 
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