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Love the camera on my S7. Love the wireless charging. Love google assistant, google maps, the fact that I can actually save files on my phone and access them however I want.

Hate how it has a 5,000 core processor that chugs on simple tasks.

^^ this!

No matter what anyone tells you the Android experience STILL isn't as smooth as it should be. Not to mention the sea of dross in the app store. If Samsung (or any other premium phone manufacturer for that matter) want to really eat into Apple's iPhone user base someone needs to fix that.... this is the only thing keeping me and many others on an iOS device and surely someone knows this somewhere.
 
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Looks like the main winner here is Google android OS with up to 80% plus or minus market share.
If so that is incredible.
Would like to know what Google charge for their OS, I seem to remember Symbian and a figure of £5.00 per device to licence the software.
 
It's also important to remember that selling a ton of phones at a loss is bad, not good. Lol!

Samsung doesn't sell any phones at a loss. They reach more markets by also selling less profitable lower consumer cost devices, something that Apple is apparently unable to do for fear of losing investors.

If a product spontaneously combusting can't kill brand loyalty, what can?

People these days forgive battery and charger problems, even if partly self-inflicted. Apple itself has recalled millions of such products over the past decade.

Wait, what? HOW? How could they recover so fast when new products as JUST been launched. S8 and S8+ are not even available for sale.

In the same way that Apple always reports huge first weekend sales. Because the majority of initially reported sales from either company are to retailers to build up stock, not directly to end users.
 
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As a fanboy I go: "Well, that is a bummer, because I am not really sure how many of Samsung's phones I really like, the first time I went oh yeah, look at this! was with the s8, and a week later they rule the market?" while at the same time I go: "Well, that's a bummer, and no surprise, because Apple's innovation in design has been to re-release the 7, which is the 6s, which is the 6. Just 'tidied up' and we're waiting on the oled display, usb-c port and a proper update to the OS ".

So, yeah, .. whatever I think or feel, no matter how I twist it. I guess if you make a phone that doesn't really 'update', but is beautiful, works great, and has a pretty OS. Versus a saturated Android market with a maker that does everything Apple does, and then piles on top of it. Yeah, you get a bigger market. They finally did it again. Good job Samsung.

Guess it's time for Apple to step it up again and not push it down our throats, but actually listen to the customers. Going from 20% to 16% is only 4%, but that 4% helped Samsung and Android as a whole - and will do so in the long run.

I don't see myself switch to the s8, but I hope Apple's 8 is not taking that option away from me, and I feel I might as well switch just to get a phone that does what i want.
 
It's also important to remember that selling a ton of phones at a loss is bad, not good. Lol!

Why in the world would they sell a phone at a loss?
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I will stick with Apple nothing of theirs I have ever owned has spontaneously combusted.
And the vast majority of Samsung customers didn't have any device that spontaneously combusted. It was only a few total that did.
 
Quarterly reports are meaningless. Manufacturers typically release one new flagship per year with a spike in sales during the first quarter after and then rapidly tapering off.

The Samsung S8 will likely outsell the iPhone 7 this quarter while the iPhone 7S/8 will likely outsell Samsung in the 4th quarter. And in other news water is wet.

Year-over-year numbers are most comparable.
On top, Apple is stronger in the phone-as-a-gift/treat (including to yourself) business than others, which boosts their 4th quarter sales relative to their competitors.
 
That's what people said about the Note 7 before, you know...

I just don't see Samsung making the same mistakes. It would be a automatic fail at that point and Samsung is too big to let that happen. I do see 1 here and 1 there possibility catching on fire but that's the tendency of lithium batteries. Even a very small number of iPhones catch on fire once in a while. Plus the S7/S7 Edge have been overall fine and Samsung has sold plenty of those.
 
Quarterly reports are meaningless. Manufacturers typically release one new flagship per year with a spike in sales during the first quarter after and then rapidly tapering off.

The Samsung S8 will likely outsell the iPhone 7 this quarter while the iPhone 7S/8 will likely outsell Samsung in the 4th quarter. And in other news water is wet.

Year-over-year numbers are most comparable.
thank you and also NONE except Apple reports ANY unit numbers - all of these numbers are coming up their a**s
 
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Who cares when a company sales a bunch of crap phones for $30-100.00 on Straight Talk and others cell networks. I can't tell you how many of those phones come back for returns because they are crap and customers aren't happy!
 
Not surprised. The S8 is a masterpiece

It's a beautiful device, but Masterpiece ??

Well

If you exclude the dodgy placement of the fingerprint scanner which required them to add a nag screen to the camera to tell you to wipe it clean from smudges / grease,

or the facial recognition which can be tricked with a photo of your face,

or the Bixby integration that won't be available in Europe and even when it is it will be limited initially to English UK language ...

But other than that it's a masterpiece ;)


Reality is all devices will have their flaws, and we have yet to achieve technology wise anything approaching the level of The Last Supper or The Sistine Chapel in fairness. I think 'masterpiece' was laying on the hyperbolic descriptor a little too enthusiastically ...
 
If it wasn't for iOS and all the $$ I invested into apps, I would Samsung. But definitely not going to buy a smartphone without headphone jack, that's for sure.
 
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Apple needs to step it up for iPhone 8

Why? Raw marketshare is meaningless to the individual user if the platform delivers on all of the needs of that user. Apple maintains high standards, great security, and awesome performance, not to mention that it's been proven that developing apps for iOS is more profitable than for Android, even with a smaller market. That market pays more.

I hope that Apple doesn't get distracted by wanting to have the largest market share. They've stated that is not their goal, so let's hope that doesn't change.
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Apparently, selling the same phone for 9 consecutive years with only minor changes in software and making it "thinner".

Gotta love the freedom to post whatever you want on the internet, even if it's false, eh?
 
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