I thought that was the Note 7 that exploded a vehicle on a highway in Florida. There are so many incidents that it's hard to keep track of.
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Samsung Reports 1 Million Note 7 Users Safe After Recall, but Overheating Stories Persist
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26 were shown to be false.
Iphones have exploded also. That's the inherent risk of Lithium Ion batteries.
Who said they were false, Samsung? They are also telling the Chinese that their exploding Samsung phones are being caused by "external" issues. This is making the Chinese feel like second class citizens, which isn't the brightest PR strategy.
What?? I thought ISIS was buying only iPhone because of strong encryption!! Now they switched to Note 7? There goes Apple's perennial customer base! I can't believe Apple is losing to Samsung here too!
HobeSoundDarryl
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I don't think you would consider it an "exponentially" growing problem unless you don't understand the meaning of the word.
Relative to the 92 cases, how many units were sold in the U.S? Again, it reminds me of the annual shark attack press. How many people are actually bitten vs. how many people go into the oceans. Or the plane crash press. How many die in plane crashes vs. how many survive all the other flights? Or maybe the Zika virus right now in the U.S.- big press every day but how many actual U.S. cases vs. the approx 300M U.S. population.
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Something seems a bit fishy. All that damage to the bed,wall,nightstand yet relatively little to the phone and less to the rubber bumper and charger cord?
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I think you should better acquaint yourself with what exponential means- think a rapidly expanding explosion of explosions... rather than a relative trickle of meltdown events, again like shark attack stories or number of athletes not wanting to do the usual thing during the anthem.
Exactly. It just like when they tried to downplay how many reports of exploding phones there were.
It's bad enough that the phones exploded in the first place but they have handled this whole situation so poorly.
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I said something seemed fishy......she had TWO fires in TWO days.
http://fox8.com/2016/09/28/charging...inesville-home-it-could-have-been-in-my-face/
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Yes, yes, but when it's iPhones, it's user error... or caused by "cheap Chinese chargers"... etc.
Well, you're accepting Samsung's word for it, with no proof- so..............
*again confused by you*
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
How did "you're holding it wrong" make you feel? Was that an example of a bright PR strategy?
I never said exponentially growing, and I understand the meaning of the word perfectly fine. No need for insults. I didn't insult you with my response. Besides, that was someone else's comment.
I just disagree with how you play off the significance of the matter as if it is nothing. It is certainly much more than a molehill, and we're way beyond the numbers of sensationalized shark attacks.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/09/29/iphone-7-catches-fire-arrives-charred-in-box-owner-says/
Equally plausible as the latest 'my exchanged Note 7 went up in flames' stories.
Equally plausible as the latest 'my exchanged Note 7 went up in flames' stories.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I didn't say it was nothing. In fact, I acknowledged is as an issue and referenced the recall of ALL of them. I was purely taking a poke at someone calling it an exponentially-growing problem. It's not.
Various press figures claims sales between 2-3 million units. "We" around here are excited about a few to maybe 100 units with melted batteries- let's even cast it as 200 to cover seemingly all bases to the extreme. IMO, 2-3 million units is a relative mountain to maybe 200 units molehill.
Various press figures claims sales between 2-3 million units. "We" around here are excited about a few to maybe 100 units with melted batteries- let's even cast it as 200 to cover seemingly all bases to the extreme. IMO, 2-3 million units is a relative mountain to maybe 200 units molehill.
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But, it's still a bigger deal that iPhones can be bent if you sit on them or puposefully try. But, a Samsung phone that is effectively an IED? Pfft... ok, maybe it, it's a small problem. But, no way is it worthy declaring it a "Bombgate" or such.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Yes, but that will get spun as user error "probably left it in his hot car or a ceramic oven all day" or shipper error "probably had that one too close to the plane engines".
Sure. They recalled all those phones and took huge losses because of false reports, because it wasn't a problem. Right.
Ah, the classic tactic of deflection. Here are the facts for you:
- iPhones have exploded and caught fire.
- Samsung phones have exploded and caught fire.
- Motorola phones have exploded and caught fire.
- ALL manufacturers have had phones explode and catch fire.
- The Note 7 catches fire at a rate that's several orders of magnitude greater than the iPhone or any other phone.
- If iPhones caught fire at the same rate as the Note 7, then there would be 100,000 iPhone fires since the first iPhone, 1,000 of those in the Mar-Jun 2016 quarter alone. Can you link to 1,000 iPhone fires that occurred over those 3 months of sales?
Sorry to have to bring math into this discussion.
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What a bad month for Samsung. Just last night, I read news about Samsung washing machines exploding. Yes, as in KABOOM. It's apparently more than 1 random machine, several have been cited. Fortunately no one seems to have been hurt yet from a Samsung exploding washing machine.
CPSC Issues Warning After Reports Some Samsung Washing Machines Exploded
CPSC Issues Warning After Reports Some Samsung Washing Machines Exploded
Yes, but that will get spun as user error "probably left it in his hot car or a ceramic oven all day" or shipper error "probably had that one too close to the plane engines".
the guy from the delivery company was just holding the package wrong.
On a more serious note: another iPhone burned on June 21, but on an airplane. It had slipped behind the back rest of a business class seat and caught fire when the cabin staff tried to get it out - they actually had to put it out with a fire extinguisher. It's likely that the phone got damaged when the position of the chair was moved. In any case: I can see a general electronics ban for public transport on the horizon now - lithium ion batteries are freaking dangerous and they really shouldn't be on airplanes. Even though that would really suck - I fly a lot and use my laptop and my phone on planes routinely.
Sooner or later a lot of people will die because of someone's gadgets catches fire on a plane - I hope they don't wait with a ban until that happens :-( If it happens in the cabin, I guess people can deal with it - but what if it happens in the luggage hold? It beats me why it's still allowed to pack electronics in suitcases.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/0...issing_emitting_smoke_and_making_orange_glow/
and another case earlier this year:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...ne-hawaii-washington-anna-crail-a6944416.html
The latter is even more worrisome as the iPhone just caught fire without being charged etc. So again: while Samsung's problems are of a larger scale, the iPhone can't be considered 100% safe, especially not in airplanes.
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