Samsung Reveals Galaxy S5 With Home Button Fingerprint Sensor, Accompanying 'Gear Fit' Band

[fazel]

"The world's first mobile phone with a heart rate sensor"

eh..

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/instant-heart-rate-heart-rate/id409625068?mt=8

MotionX does this as well.

 

[violst]

Yikes…Thats not a handsome phone.

 

[dannyyankou]

Looking at my twitter feed, I had no idea they were announcing a new phone today. Love how no one cares.

 

[nefan65]

Hold up hold up hold up.... I just read that it is waterproof, no mentioning of that in the story though. Thats very interesting

Actually in the keynote they said it is "Water and Dust Resistant". Not "Waterproof".

 

[apolloa]

No, it's the most insecure mobile OS because every competitor will tell you so and because it's the most insecure mobile OS, factually.

Ok, so if it's factual, go and get me confirmed PROOF from the mouths of the directors of Androids competitors stating what you just posted, and NO apple does NOT count, because you stated 'every competitor' will tell me....

 

[Iconoclysm]

Unlike some Apple users on this thread who don't pay attention to details like the fact that the S5 is using local encryption as per my previous post

Local encryption is not the same as what Apple is doing. It's not even close, actually.

 

[VulchR]

Did anyone notice that he never tried a finger that wasn't programmed?

Strangely, he used BOTH his thumb and index finger during fingerprint learning. Would have thought that would have given an error message, but didn't.

Makes you skeptical as to how reliable the scanner is at detecting non-self fingerprints.

Precisely. Fortunately reasonably objective tests could be performed to compare the Apple vs Samsung finger id sensor accuracy. Any serious review would report the rate of false positives (recognising fingers not corresponding to the user's finger, which is a serious security issue) and false negatives (failure to recognise legit finger, which is annoying).

I seem to recall swipe finger id sensors on laptops a few years back and my impression was they they were gimmicky and did not work well. It would be interesting to see if Samsung has improved the technology.

In thinking about Samsung's features, do people actually use Samsung's eye detection/movement technology to scroll in every day use or was it just a gimmick? Not trying to troll, just genuinely curious.

 

[samcraig]

No, the gear fit is about 10-20% of what people are asking from Apple.

Oh really? Which 10-20 percent and then tell me which 80-90 percent it's not hitting on. PS - don't include "it's not Apple" as any percentage

Woopde freakin doo - it works 50% of the time and is more trouble than its worth.

Apple (breifly) stores the user's fingerprint data in the processor chip itself. If something is secure enough, why try to make it MORE secure at the expense of implementation.

"Apple's may work better, be easier to use, secure and more reliable but Samsung's is EXTRA secure (while being more difficult to use and less reliable).

Local encryption means nothing if the feature is turned off after the first day with the phone....as most of these Samsung features tend to be.

I don't claim to know more than what I read and hear today. I never claimed it was better or worse than Apple's implementation. Both in security or rate of success of the scanning.

 

[Nikiaf]

Had occasion to use my wife's iPhone 5c this weekend. Gotta say the screen on it (4") feels too large for my taste. 5.1" for the Samsung? No thanks.

Ha, I almost thought you were being serious!

 

[jrswizzle]

Hold up hold up hold up.... I just read that it is waterproof, no mentioning of that in the story though. Thats very interesting

Water RESISTANT.

There's a difference.

Still neat though.

 

[cdmoore74]

Or because I know people who've got malware on their Android phones.

And yet Android keeps growing. Maybe people don't mind malware since they have the ability to side load unsigned programs. A risk people are willing to take for the price of freedom.

 

[Iconoclysm]

Woopde freakin doo - it works 50% of the time and is more trouble than its worth.

Apple (breifly) stores the user's fingerprint data in the processor chip itself. If something is secure enough, why try to make it MORE secure at the expense of implementation.

"Apple's may work better, be easier to use, secure and more reliable but Samsung's is EXTRA secure (while being more difficult to use and less reliable).

Local encryption means nothing if the feature is turned off after the first day with the phone....as most of these Samsung features tend to be.

Samsung's is less secure if it's merely encrypted.

 

[Dominicanyor]

Wow really Samsung!!

 

[Reason077]

In Korea, Galaxy S5 is old news. I read about it on samsungrumors.net 2 months ago.

 

[apolloa]

To be fair I read the article by Kaspersky Labs. They seem to know what they're talking about.

And what would that be then? Because the years I have had an Android device, and that included installing custom ROMS, I have NEVER had any malware or viruses.

 

[dydydy]

I call this innovaction

 

[Kariya]

Xperia Z2 is a more compelling product.

 

[carjakester]

Actually in the keynote they said it is "Water and Dust Resistant". Not "Waterproof".

Gotcha, usa today said it was waterproof. http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/02/24/live-coverage-samsung/5776491/

 

[ghost187]

Samsung had their 15 minutes of fame with the S3, and it's been downhill ever since.

 

[Iconoclysm]

I would guess at minimum 6 months. The phone itself can be in a pipeline for years - but the real trick is working with various carriers/etc to get the software side and some hardware to "play nice" - and different carriers have different requirements. That can take longer than you might imagine.

6 months is far more reasonable than 2-3 years.

Pretty sure I can imagine with decent accuracy how long it takes to meet a carrier's requirements since we've all been watching this market like hawks for nearly a decade.

 

[Appl3FTW]

i think i'm pretty spot on when i say... the 5s have no competition. LOL. if that's the best they could come up with.. damn wait till the s6 i guess to see if they will compete.. for now s5 is NOT a competition to the 5s and will NOT touch the iphone 6.

 

[brianvictor7]

Samsung - Inspired by Apple

Let's face it, Korea has been copying Western products ever since someone got me a Regulator clock from 1979ish and I found out only two decades later that the thing was a knockoff from there.

Sure, it was nice clock, but ah what's the use.

 

[jrswizzle]

Samsung's is less secure if it's merely encrypted.

Ahh - as I have not watched the keynote, nor do I remember the intricacies of Apple's implementation, I was merely speaking off the cuff.

At any rate, my biggest take-away from this release is....

"HTC, it's all there for you. Don't screw up."

 

[SuperMatt]

these phones take 2-3 years to bring to market and the parts makers shop their wares at trade shows and to everyone so everyone has an idea of the features in upcoming phones. no one is copying anyone

Um, maybe you missed the Apple vs Samsung trial in which it was proven that Samsung spent a great deal of time trying to copy Apple almost exactly, based on their own internal company documents.

 

[goobot]

And yet Android keeps growing. Maybe people don't mind malware since they have the ability to side load unsigned programs. A risk people are willing to take for the price of freedom.

Or you could just jailbreak.