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Samsung Rumored to Return to iPhone Chip Production in 2018
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Samsung serves as a contract Fab for Apple. Similar to AMD and Global Foundries. Apple Designs their own Architecture at their Orlando R&D Facility. Samsung needs the orders to make a profit.
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You need to research ARM, and Apple's A Series. You know nothing about what you comment on.
Samsung serves as a contract Fab for Apple. Similar to AMD and Global Foundries. Apple Designs their own Architecture at their Orlando R&D Facility. Samsung wants the orders to make more profit.
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Haha at least the iPhones with these chips won't be doing their best snake impressions... hhhiiisssssssssssssss
Lol!
Lol!
That's a croc and you know it. Do you think the OS and hardware design would be what it is without it? Half the reason it's as thin as it is, (thickness is one of the major iDevice talking points), without a nice thin screen?
Really?Apple Designs their own Architecture at their Orlando R&D Facility. Samsung needs the orders to make a profit.
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http://uk.businessinsider.com/apple-hiring-in-orlando-amid-rumors-company-designing-own-gpu-2016-5?r=US&IR=T
Can you see amid-rumors but if you think it's true whatever
Apple was an early investor/partner in the Acorn RISC venture, then:
"Japanese telecommunications company SoftBank Group made an agreed offer for ARM on 18 July 2016, subject to approval by ARM's shareholders, valuing the company at £23.4 billion.[24][62] The transaction was completed on 5 September 2016"
Curious as to why Apple would sell it's ownership in the company that it depends on for its most profitable product. Was it a conflict of interest/legal issue?
This is without doubt the lamest post of the week. Samsung just announced record profits... before this deal.. they currently have Apple to thank for 5% of their business. So tell me again how they need this deal to make a profit.. wacky isn't the half of it....
You missed my point. When I said design, I am including all of the hardware components. What I also said is, 99% of iPhone users don't care who made the underlying parts. Who cares if Samsung makes parts of a phone designed by Apple?
Don’t hate Samsung. Have several TVs.
But, I would say Samsung has the most to lose here. Apple will get their chips from somewhere else, if not Samsung ...
Either way, Apple has chips (amazing A-series processor, design enhanced by them)...
Only *one* way in which Samsung benefits ...
You're confusing the ARM ISA instruction set with processor refererence designs.
Apples A series chips use the ARM instruction set, but they're not based off any reference designs.
Samsung processor
It is not Samsung processor, Designed by Apple with ARM IP, manufactured by Samsung.
Screen yes Samsung can take credit for because Apple is not designing, may be Apple can calibrate it & use better processor to run the display, memory well memory is pretty standard so don't care.
if we go by your analogy then we can as well say Foxconn can take credit for iPhone and almost all other electronics, but they don't because they just assemble components that go into phone, Apple still controls design of every component & controls the quality at vendors who make all these components.
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Samsung is loosing business, not Apple.
And Apple proved that they survive with out Samsung making chips for Apple.
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Every mobile processor has ARM IP/Instruction set in it including Qualcom, Samsung, Apple, they custom design the chips using ARM IP.
If there is no custom design part then every chip Apple, Samsung, Qualcom should perform the same since all of them are using ARM IP, but it is not the case.
Lol, that is one HILARIOUS take on things!!! =)
It seems to me like Apple.... needing to secure literally boatloads of OLED screens, that prior to this year there wasn’t a manufacturer on earth that could’ve produced them in the quantity Apple needed (all reports indicate that this is going to be a MASSIVE ramp up in display production for Samsung; obviously their largest display order ever- by a country mile), Apple set a little plan in motion a few years back.
By reducing cpu orders to 1/2 on the 6, then to 0 on the 6S & the 7, they created a point of leverage!
Apple: “oh, ok.... since you’re giving our screens priority at your factories & giving us a sweet price, we’ll go back to the original reduction of 50% again on cpu orders, starting next year”.
That’s gotta be pretty much EXACTLY what happened... from the article, Samsung used its “close ties on OLED” to resecure the cpu business.
Obviously, they must’ve been certain that Apple was VERY pleased with the OLED deal... or they wouldn’t be able to use that as a basis for re-establishing their former cpu relationship.
Lol, I can barely speak to your “cap in hand” comment & the notion that Samsung would somehow only sell Apple less specced versions than on the galaxy models, as that is so far beyond ludicrous I can scarcely believe you wrote that as anything more than a wind up.
Samsung will deliver whatever spec screens Apple orders & pays for.
Business does NOT operate anything like you imagine... if you seriously believe Samsung saves “the best” screens for themselves, lol.
Your logic (and I use the term VERY loosely here...) falls apart the moment you think about it.
Example: Samsung has manufactured cpus for both galaxy & iPhone at the same time... so, were the galaxy cpus faster, because they’d only manufacture the “2nd best” for Apple, leaving the top tier for themselves..?
No. Indeed that did not happen. Quite to the contrary, Apple sent them exact specs of what they wanted, Samsung built it, & head-to-head, the Apple cpus mopped the floor with the ones Samsung built for themselves.
This article is about SOC not graphics chips.
Apple does design their own SOC for iPAD/iPhone.
Exactly. I have a Samsung TV, Samsung 4K monitor, and I use Samsung 850 EVO SSDs in several of my computers. All of those products work great and I would recommend them to anyone. I just can't bring myself to buy products from their mobile division, however. All these strange comments about "LOL I bet Apple fans hate this news" are really out of place.
I don't understand why Apple would want Samsung making their chips. They are a huge rival company. Why not get Intel or AMD to make them? Isn't that what they're good at? Obviously I just don't understand the whole situation. Please fill me in if you can. Thanks!
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about as exposed earlier. Additionally you show a lack of reading comprehension here as well. The article you linked is about the rumors at the time about internal gpu design. This "rumor" has in time turned out to be true since apple has publicly declared they are phasing out Imagination Technologies GPU design they have used for years. The conversation here is about the CPU design which has been clearly explained several times is Apples design. The GPU eventually will be as well.
Yes the hotter, slower, and more power hungry Samsung produced A9 showed they made a much better chip.
It's pretty absurd how wrong you are.
"the A-series chip is a RISK (sic) based chip designed from a UK company"
1) It's RISC based
2) The chip is not designed by anyone else but Apple. The ISA (Instruction Set Architecture) is licensed by Apple. That Instruction Set could be implemented in any number of ways. It just so happens that Apple's implementation of it is, comfortably, the best.
"Yes Apple took that design, because it's open source"
1) They license the ISA. They did not take anything
2) You seem to be implying the design is free, as in beer. It is not.
You got everything wrong.
Yeah...
Those are desktop chips. COMPLETELY different architecture, instruction sets, power requirements, etc.
That’s why you don’t hear about AMD or Intel producing processors for any mobile phones.
I take it you are unaware how little technology is included with just an instruction set. Virtually nothing. Apple has to figure out how to make the instructions perform correctly. The hardware is all theirs.
It isn't diversification if the entire order goes to Samsung. That being said I wasn't hearing any indications that Samsung had been successful with a 7nm process. The feelings where the tTSMC was way ahead a this node.
