Samsung Rumored to Return to iPhone Chip Production in 2018

[raghu8912]

Well played, genially laughed!!
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What components? Are these physical components? Because Apple produces sweet fa. Apple has the reference design for the A-series processors, but there made by other people (companies) And by the way the A series processors was based on a design from a little known company from the UK called Acorn.

Which is nothing but ARM, whose IP is used in 99% of phones & tablets, including Samsung, Qualcom you name it.
ARM is owned by SoftBank now.
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Can't wait to see the new Samsung phones with 7nm chips.

Samsung doesn't use their chips in US phones for some reason, they use Qualcom chips.

 

[Keirasplace]

The iPhone will basically be a rebranded samsung phone soon...hope u iPhone fanboys appreciate Samsung for now on......

A complete nonsense, but hey you tried hard huh; lets give you a participation prize.
Google a bit and then come back when you grow up.

 

[raghu8912]

I don't understand why Apple would want Samsung making their chips. They are a huge rival company. Why not get Intel or AMD to make them? Isn't that what they're good at? Obviously I just don't understand the whole situation. Please fill me in if you can. Thanks!

Profit margins in manufacturing ARM chips is so small Intel will never make processors for Apple unless Intel is going under.
AMD doesn't have a FAB, I think they spun off AMD FAB as Global Foundaries.

 

[BvizioN]

Get this, your iPhone could be rockin' a Samsung screen, a Samsung processor and running off Samsung memory. Sounds like a Samsung phone to me....

Yeah. And we are all made of stars. But we are not stars.
Usually electronic products do have bits and peaces supplied by other companies. Some companies are focused on making components that they sell to other companies. Same as an artist chooses a particular shop to buy brushes and paint for his/her artwork. The artwork itself is not a creation of the shop owner though.

 

[admob71]

Lol, that is one HILARIOUS take on things!!! =)

It seems to me like Apple.... needing to secure literally boatloads of OLED screens, that prior to this year there wasn’t a manufacturer on earth that could’ve produced them in the quantity Apple needed (all reports indicate that this is going to be a MASSIVE ramp up in display production for Samsung; obviously their largest display order ever- by a country mile), Apple set a little plan in motion a few years back.
By reducing cpu orders to 1/2 on the 6, then to 0 on the 6S & the 7, they created a point of leverage!
Apple: “oh, ok.... since you’re giving our screens priority at your factories & giving us a sweet price, we’ll go back to the original reduction of 50% again on cpu orders, starting next year”.
That’s gotta be pretty much EXACTLY what happened... from the article, Samsung used its “close ties on OLED” to resecure the cpu business.
Obviously, they must’ve been certain that Apple was VERY pleased with the OLED deal... or they wouldn’t be able to use that as a basis for re-establishing their former cpu relationship.
Lol, I can barely speak to your “cap in hand” comment & the notion that Samsung would somehow only sell Apple less specced versions than on the galaxy models, as that is so far beyond ludicrous I can scarcely believe you wrote that as anything more than a wind up.
Samsung will deliver whatever spec screens Apple orders & pays for.
Business does NOT operate anything like you imagine... if you seriously believe Samsung saves “the best” screens for themselves, lol.
Your logic (and I use the term VERY loosely here...) falls apart the moment you think about it.
Example: Samsung has manufactured cpus for both galaxy & iPhone at the same time... so, were the galaxy cpus faster, because they’d only manufacture the “2nd best” for Apple, leaving the top tier for themselves..?
No. Indeed that did not happen. Quite to the contrary, Apple sent them exact specs of what they wanted, Samsung built it, & head-to-head, the Apple cpus mopped the floor with the ones Samsung built for themselves.

Far too long, read 3 words and got bored zzz zzz

 

[WatchFromAfar]

Yeah. And we are all made of stars. But we are not stars.
Usually electronic products do have bits and peaces supplied by other companies. Some companies are focused on making components that they sell to other companies. Same as an artist chooses a particular shop to buy brushes and paint for his/her artwork. The artwork itself is not a creation of the shop owner though.

Interesting analogy, but that doesn't explain the hatred towards Samsung. An artist doesn't hate the shop where he/she buys their materials do they? Perhaps we should be thankful and applaud Samsung for providing the parts in our iPhones.

 

[Feenician]

Interesting analogy, but that doesn't explain the hatred towards Samsung. An artist doesn't hate the shop where he/she buys their materials do they? Perhaps we should be thankful and applaud Samsung for providing the parts in our iPhones.

What hatred?

How’s the weather in Seoul?

 

[WatchFromAfar]

What hatred?

How’s the weather in Seoul?

Clever
because I stuck up for Samsung I'm from Korea
A pretty racist attitude if you ask me.

 

[Feenician]

Clever
because I stuck up for Samsung I'm from Korea
A pretty racist attitude if you ask me.

I didn’t ask you about, or speak of, your race. It’s of no interest to me.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

I made no implication about your race, merely about your location.

So what was your point of my location then? You didn't say UK, USA, Australia etc. Why go to Korea unless you where implying something?
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I didn’t ask you about, or speak of, your race. It’s of no interest to me.

Wow, I see you've edited your post so it know longer says
"I made no implication about your race, merely about your location." which is daft because people can see your original post in my posts replies
hmm feeling guilty?

 

[Bacillus]

So what was your point of my location then? You didn't say UK, USA, Australia etc. Why go to Korea unless you where implying something?
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Wow, I see you've edited your post so it know longer says
"I made no implication about your race, merely about your location." which is daft because people can see your original post in my posts replies
hmm feeling guilty?

Just leave it. Americans have difficult times: Trump in bed with the Russians. Apple with the Koreans.
It is so difficult to bear for them, that no one wants to see the greater plot:
Apple and Sammy have divided the market and keep a competitive stance just for the public image.
Keeping some technology fans here at MR in their camp is a nice side-effect (as they gladly found out we're not exactly opinion leaders here...)

 

[recoil80]

samsung generally makes the best components.

everyone knows it

It isn't always true, but usually they make great components.
And although I don't like Samsung phones I think their electronics division is a good partner for Apple. They make OLED, SoC, NANDs etc.

People hate Samsung because of the rivalry in the smartphone market, but Samsung is a big conglomerate and the mobile division is different from the electronics one.
So if Samsung makes the best OLED I'm glad they can sell them to Apple to put on iPhones, and that's true even for storage on Macs and other components they may provide in the future.
I'm a customer, all I care about is buying the best possible product. If that involves having Samsung as a supplier I'm fine with that. I'll never buy a Samsung smartphone, but that's a different story

 

[splogue]

7nm. Wow. I can't even wrap my brain around that.

How small can the tolerances be before they start seeing quantum effects? What about plain old electrical seepage between traces?

Anybody know what the theoretical limit is using current technology?

Sean

 

[WatchFromAfar]

It isn't always true, but usually they make great components.
And although I don't like Samsung phones I think their electronics division is a good partner for Apple. They make OLED, SoC, NANDs etc.

People hate Samsung because of the rivalry in the smartphone market, but Samsung is a big conglomerate and the mobile division is different from the electronics one.
So if Samsung makes the best OLED I'm glad they can sell them to Apple to put on iPhones, and that's true even for storage on Macs and other components they may provide in the future.
I'm a customer, all I care about is buying the best possible product. If that involves having Samsung as a supplier I'm fine with that. I'll never buy a Samsung smartphone, but that's a different story

Everything you said is true. But I can't work out how Apple fans can separate in their minds Samsung mobile Division and Samsung Electronic Division. It's like "we hate your phones, but please keep making great components for our iPhones, pretty please".

And here's the irony, If there Electronic Division is so great at making components for Apple, why would you think the mobile division wouldn't use the exact same parts found in an iPhone for the hated Samsung phones?

 

[I7guy]

Everything you said is true. But I can't work out how Apple fans can separate in their minds Samsung mobile Division and Samsung Electronic Division. It's like "we hate your phones, but please keep making great components for our iPhones, pretty please".

And here's the irony, If there Electronic Division is so great at making components for Apple, why would you think the mobile division wouldn't use the exact same parts found in an iPhone for the hated Samsung phones?

It's easy you're overthinking this.

 

[Bacillus]

Everything you said is true. But I can't work out how Apple fans can separate in their minds Samsung mobile Division and Samsung Electronic Division. It's like "we hate your phones, but please keep making great components for our iPhones, pretty please".
And here's the irony, If there Electronic Division is so great at making components for Apple, why would you think the mobile division wouldn't use the exact same parts found in an iPhone for the hated Samsung phones?

You may google on "Applecentric hypocrisy".
The guy who really considered them different companies has won the Infinite Loop-thinking award.

 

[recoil80]

And here's the irony, If there Electronic Division is so great at making components for Apple, why would you think the mobile division wouldn't use the exact same parts found in an iPhone for the hated Samsung phones?

The problem with Samsung smartphones is software, not hardware.

 

[cube]

The problem with Samsung smartphones is software, not hardware.

That is debatable. I had an S4 die (twice), and my Tab Pro has been wonky almost from the start.

I have seen about half a dozen Samsung laptops break (almost all of them).

 

[recoil80]

That is debatable. I had an S4 die (twice), and my Tab Pro has been wonky almost from the start.

I have seen about half a dozen Samsung laptops break (almost all of them).

My wife had a Samsung galaxy some years ago, it was pure garbage not only on the software side.

I don't hate Samsung, I simply won't buy one of their smartphone because I don't like TouchWiz and there are plenty of alternatives in the Android world.
I understand why some Apple fans hate Samsung, but if they make the best OLED display why chose another supplier? And that's true for every hardware component Apple needs for iPhone or for the Mac.

 

[WatchFromAfar]

I don't hate Samsung, I simply won't buy one of their smartphone because I don't like TouchWiz

Well you're in luck because the Galaxy S8 won't run TouchWiz but will be running Samsung's own Tizen OS.

 

[admob71]

Classy

I didn't write that, someone been creative with the way they use quotes....

 

[Feenician]

So what was your point of my location then? You didn't say UK, USA, Australia etc. Why go to Korea unless you where implying something?
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Wow, I see you've edited your post so it know longer says
"I made no implication about your race, merely about your location." which is daft because people can see your original post in my posts replies
hmm feeling guilty?

I changed it to word it more elegantly. The intent of the statement didn’t change. I’m glad you quoted so people can see that.

Your bizarre ra-ra-ing of Samsung in the thread is only matched by your utter lack of knowledge. The stuff earlier about Apple “stealing” ARM chips was simply laughable and

Well you're in luck because the Galaxy S8 won't run TouchWiz but will be running Samsung's own Tizen OS.

This is utterly wrong. You realize the S8 was released months ago, running Android and TouchWiz, right?

 

[admob71]

Well you're in luck because the Galaxy S8 won't run TouchWiz but will be running Samsung's own Tizen OS.

Will? What you on about , it's currently running Android N...

 

[Tycho24]

Far too long, read 3 words and got bored zzz zzz

Not surprised in the LEAST by that!!!
Nor offended; I could tell by your posts that reading carefully, making sure you comprehend fully, then responding is not your modus operandi.
Consider my response an effort to further the discussion & refute your assertions, for the benefit of ALL here; not simply some sort of personal message only pertaining to you.

But, if you are actually interested... here’s the TLDR:
Samsung doesn’t “save” the best screens for themselves.
Samsung builds parts according to the EXACT specs they receive from customers.
There ya go.... the most pertinent info compressed to 2 sentences! Hope you find that info illuminating.

 

[I7guy]

You may google on "Applecentric hypocrisy".
The guy who really considered them different companies has won the Infinite Loop-thinking award.

Interesting results with "googlecentric hypocrisy".