MicroLED is the future. If you buy a 55inch TV with MicroLED you can buy MicroLED modules(assuming the TV supports it) to upgrade the TV into an 70inch or even 100+ inch. Just need the 120hz panel on iPad since going back to 60hz makes everything to snappy.
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Samsung Rumored to Supply OLED Displays for 16-Inch MacBook Pro and Future iPad Pros
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Yep, everything is rosy for people in Apple's target demographic. And as long as Apple spends billions to market Apple products as a fashion statement things will continue to be rosy, until people wise up. Never said otherwise.
Its just that I never bought Apple products to make a fashion statement. So I am slightly less enthusiastic since Apple is no longer a technology leader, no longer a reliability leader, no longer a usability leader, no longer an integrated ecosystem leader, and no longer a performance leader in many areas. Gosh, I guess I just have not had a strong enough dose of my Apple marketing elixir today.
Non-issue. My iphone X and My Sony OLED are incredible. Also I have an Alienware R13 with an OLED screen and the display makes my MBP look outdated at best.
You and many others never had a monitor with OLED...
My Dell OLED monitor has burned a lot due to static images due to the nature of my work.
That Dell OLED monitor was from 2016 and was Gen 1. Thats why they took it off the market. MUCH better tech now. All Im saying is that Apple should at least offer an "option" for an OLED touch screen for those willing to pay the money, on their new MBP line.
Is the OLED burn in issue really a thing. I've had a Sony A1E OLED for 2 years with no burn in issues. Pixelshift technology has done a good job and is imperceptible. OLED phones have been around for while now and I have yet to hear about large scale burn in issues. The tech seems mature enough to handle static PC/Mac displays if implemented properly.
Especially given that they automatically stop selling a previous product day of a keynote. And certainly don't list any other options, just one thing at a time.
Which model of LG do you have? I've been trying to figure out what to get as I have a 42" LG 1080p from 2009, lol. I just don't know if I want to spend that much on a TV and compromise on image brightness since that affects HDR capability. Also where I'd put it is a pretty bright room with several 8ft windows that probably need some kind of shades but they overlook a forest behind my house so I kinda like it that way. I've seen NewEgg sometimes has older LG OLEDs for really cheap. Although I'm also kinda worried about one of my kids accidentally chucking something at it. I've watched some of RTINGS videos on burn-in and it seems like it can be pretty severe if you leave it on news channels a lot. We don't use our TV a ton, mostly for movies and a little bit of Netflix and streaming TV. Although sometimes my Apple TV screensaver doesn't come on for some reason so I worry about that. I leave the Apple TV on 24/7 because I was having issues with remote HomeKit access so I have to rely on the screensaver in case I forget to turn off the TV. Maybe if better OLEDs are coming down the pipeline then I will wait until next year.
The technology is still is progress to shrink it to use in handheld devices at the resolution required.
The case against AMOLED is that though it has great contrast ratio, black colours tend to smudge, its lifespan is not that great, burn-in (not really a problem with pixel shifting) may be a problem too, uses more energy if the pixels are not black or shades close to it.
I have used AMOLED tablets and the black smudging is obvious and cannot be ignored once you know its present. I am looking to return my XS for an XR instead.
What these phones and laptops require is 90Hz or higher refresh rate, once you use that the UI is like butter.
I will be sad to see 3D Touch depart, it is something I use in specificities apps quite often.
It sounds like you are searching for the illusive best. A search that can never be completed, only temporarily satisfied. Tech for techs sake.
Apple succeeds because they produce products and services that people enjoy and prefer. Apple's ecosystem is not one of constance change, rather one with a foundation on longevity, refinement, usability, and privacy. There is significant value in their products given the durability and cost of ownership over the life of them. Of course if you are chasing the illusive best and "upgrading" with every new shiny thing in the industry, it must be quite expensive.
Sure Apple has its share of issues from time to time, but they get corrected, and Apple stands by their customers. All vendors have issues. But not all vendors in tech have the good will of their customers like Apple does. And I assure you the customers are not sheep being drawn in by some magical marketing. If the products didn't live up to their expectations, people would leave. It sounds like they are not living up to your expectations, so?
Having a device lab & personal ownership of 65" OLED TVs, phones, & using OLED monitors before for research for a fortune 5 company, burn-in is extremely exaggerated for the market that can comfortably afford one (which is definitely the case for this rumored redesigned Macbook Pro having an optional OLED screen upgrade)
Serious burn-in concerns on top of common sense measures are not the case with modern OLED screens & OLED monitors common in health care & etc. Common sense measures include dark mode, screen-savers, & auto-hiding task bars. Such safeguards also just make sense to also have the user be more responsibly green as a creative or developer.
With a redesigned MacPro w/ FaceID (it's also overdue), the device can have common intermediate OLED safeguards that also make the device much more energy efficient as well such as turning off the display when you are away & etc.
It's a 2019/2020 Super Retina display option for Macbook Pro. It's time. Such fears are by people who haven't had much experience with modern OLED displays intended for large screen professional use.
It only makes sense that the OLED super retina display is on both IPAD & OLED. Mac OSX has evolved to have all the common safeguards as key features (i.e. dark mode) & etc.
Such fearmongering by non-extensive users of OLED is extremely frustrating. Most Pros that work on visuals & video have wanted OLED for some time. Apple can have a florian's resposne by having a QLED display by default and an OLED option for those who know better (& also to keep the base cost down for those who don't understand OLED & don't want to pay more than they're used to for an OLED)
MicroLED will be incredibly more expensive & prone to patches on the screen at first; miniLED screens like QLED is a joke compared to OLED with its vastly inferior contrast levels & lack of true blacks.
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Macbook Pros w/ OLED wouldn't use AMOLED and they certainly wouldn't be prone to much black crush using modern OLED displays designed for medium to large screens. LEDs have a worser problem like blooming that OLED doesen't have.
By design Mac OSX & WIndows 10 have dark mode which should be used anyway by content creators to enable you to ergonomically focus on content. There's plenty of OLED displays that can run 4k@120hz which is more than enough for a laptop.
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That's critical for content creators who work on laptops beyond their workstation. Most professionals have had to go lengths such as getting an OLED reference monitor for their work that cost thousands. It's long overdue for the retina display to be replaced with the Super Retina Display that the iPhone X has (Dolby Vision HDR & hopefully HDR10+ for Web apps like YouTube to have dynamic HDR)>
As far as the keyboard, developers & many pros who use their keyboard a lot would strongly prefer Apple went ahead to create this new Macbook Pro as some of new Macbook line that forgoes the race for thiness to have a silent mechanical keyboard switch with either a MX Speed or MX Brown feel. That would be nirvana for everyone evolved.
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It'll be much more expensive than OLED at first, even with the economies of scale of using existing LED technology to create them. There's a reason why even Samsung uses OLED as the highest tier option for their flagship laptops.
It's very hard to make LEDs that small. It shouldn't stop an OLED option for Macbook Pros at first. It's weird that a upgrade to retina displays doesn't reach an iPad & Macbook Pros prior to another gen upgrade to the screen.
It's easier to market "Introducing Super Retina Display for iPad & Macbook Pros" than whatever they call their MicroLED displays.
Of course it's better than OLED, it's the next generation of screen tech that has learned a lot from the things OLED has gone through to be a viable option for mass markets.
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Not all MicroLED devices will allow that. You're talking about the Samsung "The Wall" project as though that'll be the standard feature for all MicroLED devices (it won't as most devices fundamentally won't be pinned to a wall or care for commercial display use cases that feature is primarily for)
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Elaborate; iPad in OLED is a no-brainer for what the device already does really well and should be the next Apple Device to have Super Retina Display (Dolby Vision OLED @ 120hz)
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There's flaws in every modern screen tech & microLED will be much more expensive. A Super Retina Display option for Macbook Pro to be compliant w/ the display for iPhone X and the later highest tier iPhone since (Dolby Vision OLED) would almost certainly be an opt-in upgrade option over the current screen to not add up to the cost of the pro to all rMBP customers )
Unless this new Macbook Pro is a new line of Macbook Pro intended for high-end professionals that the Macbook Pro & Mac Pro has forgotten about the past couple of years.
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Would consider the AMOLED screens used by Apple in the iPhone X/XS as premium, if you do I have some bad news for you the black crush, smudging/smearing is present on this screens.
Even on the Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e that is sAMOLED, same deal. On a pro device this is unacceptable, not sure how it is going to be remedied.
Please do your research; there are 4K@120hz OLED touchscreen displays by high-end laptops without such problems that obliterate the image quality of the retina Macbook Pro.
It's 2019. Apple should have transferred the Super Retina Display to Macbook Book Pros or at least IPads already.
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I am aware of some Asian manufacturers that have introduced 120Hz OLED displays for computers and tablets in 2019 and ones that were used to TV screens.
It is my understanding that you are saying that the black smudging/crush on sAMOLED screens has been resolved with 120Hz sAMOLED screen. Is this correct.
I'm not going to say that definitely for sAMOLED panels, but various other types of OLED panels manufactured by the likes of LG & Japan Display for medium & large devices relevant for this conversation have long solved black crush problems.
There were concerns of black crush lottery for LG C8 line-up last year, but LG sufficiently provided proof such concerns were extremely exaggerated; perceived black crush can happen with poor streaming compression like HBO's streaming of Game of Throne's Battle of Winterfell in some areas as well.
In any case, it's far less worse of a problem than blooming problems prevalent w/ LED displays.
Does Apple not commission Samsung for its sAMOLED displays in iPhone X/XS, if this is the case it is safe to presume that those displays will be used for iPad Pro and MacBook lines. In that case sAMOLED suffers from crush, now if you are telling me that 120Hz will resolve this then great, if not then no thanks. Present MacBook, iMac, iPod Touch, iPad/Pro and iPhones (except X/XS) use LED displays, so I don't see Apple ready to jump on sAMOLED across the line. Sure Apple claims expense and it may be, however do explain how Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e a mid-tier android tablet has a sAMOLED display at less than half the iPad Pro 11" price.
There's a whole lot of words you're putting in my mouth & strawman fallacies in your reply seemingly. Just because I don't know about sAMOLE panels Samsung uses being consistently fixed to account for black crush doesn't mean that hasn't been resolved since or that being something most OLED panels are plagued with consistently these days. I did make clear I'm of the opinion like most professionals that black crush is far less worth than the opposite problem LEDs go through: blooming.
Also, just because Samsung uses sAMOLED displays in their iPhone X/XS doesn't mean that's the only type of OLED panels available to other Apple devices. LG uses such panels for their mobile business but a COMPLETELY different OLED process for medium to large devices. It's not far-fetched & not uncommon for Samsung to do the same. I wouldn't be surprised that's what they're doing for the laptops they are providing OLED panels for!
Furthermore I don't understand where you're getting at about high native frame rates & black crush being something I'm suggesting seemingly; I did no such thing. No one also said anything about making OLED an option to all Apple products. No one does this. I'm of the strong opinion it makes the most sense for the iPad Pro & the Macbook Pro to have OLED options in addition to that being already a thing for Apple Watch & high-tier iPhones for multiple years.
I don't understand where you're getting at about the Samsung Galaxy Tab & the iPad pro as far as pricing and why I have to explain anything about that. The Samsung Galaxy is a pretty mediocre tablet with far worse performance, build quality, & ecosystem of an iPad Pro.
As per your own admission, you do not know about sAMOLED panels, fair enough.
Have you used a Galaxy Tab S5e with a sAMOLED display, it is on par if not better than iPhone X/XR, don't judge present day hardware with past experienced hardware. The performance is very acceptable, however I wonder if it would be further improved with stock Android Pie vice having OneUI. Comparing the S5e to iPad Pro 2018:
10.5" sAMOLED screen - 11" LED LiquidRetina screen
Quad speaker AKG tuned - Quad speakers
USB-C for both
no headphone jack for both (S5e includes dongle)
bezel-less design for both
Fingerprint sensor - FaceID
Rapid charging for both.
SD card slot - No SD card slot.
No pencil support - Pencil support
keyboard cover support for both
Price for iPad Pro, more than double.
Other than the difference is OS, Pencil support, SD card and biometrics, that does not substantiate an over doubling in price.