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They copied the Qi standard? Sure.
They copied pencil? I guess newton never existed.
They copied notch? Sure. They didn’t start the design a year before the first notch was released.

Well tell me what magic are their planning on using with AirPower. I presume pencil, pens or Simon did not exist before the Newton stylus. Sure the notch was first introduces on the “Essential” phone. Are you claiming that other companies do not take months or years to design their devices. Do these companies place an Apple device in some magic box 3D printer and in a few months a self branded device is finished. Really, you don’t say :rolleyes:
 
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What's wrong with DEX? Oic. Apple doesn't have it.
I just said why it is wrong.

Dex is basically a sort of deck that makes your galaxy phone into a PC.

But to do that so, you need a monitor, a keyboard, a mouse, and a power source for your Dex.

So it is definitely not portable, because you always have to carry the monitor etc. And why just I use a damn pc which is much much more powerful than your phone by the way, if I have to set up monitor, keyboard, mouse etc just to use Dex?

Apart from the fact the full Linux stack is now accesible via Dex AND it can even run full Eclipse
 
Apple must be feeling nauseous since this could potentially kills off the entire iPad line.
Things that could also kill off the iPad:
-a very large meteorite, I mean huge, smashes into Earth
-our sun goes supernova
-the moon falls from the sky and lands on us, i.e. Earth
-James Cameron makes an Avatar sequel
-Elon Musk decides to make a car with an internal combustion engine
-Brad Pitt divorces George Clooney
-and so on and so on...
 
[My first thought was that the one company that has the most to lose from this technology is no other than Dow Corning in Corning, NY. Even if the folding substrate is not viable, it is not far from replacing glass as the protective substrate.]

Regardless of the noise in here, there is no denying that foldable displays are a paradigm shift.

"Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently." Steve Jobs.
 
Yes, I have seen their products up close to evaluate them for use at my place of employment. The zero-seam screens are very impressive. They make their older and much cheaper video walls with visible seams seem so out-of-date (but of course the older tech still has many viable applications). They also do transparent displays which are quite impressive for the right use-case.

I have seen and used the 3M transparent wall for projectors, is this using a similar method. If not, it seems (pun) interesting ;)
 
Apart from the fact the full Linux stack is now accesible via Dex AND it can even run full Eclipse

And DEX even runs Windows 10
Yeah but my good old desktop runs Win10 perfectly and smoothly. Much better than Dex surely

So is there a reason why should I use Dex instead of my PC exactly?
 
not sure if i understand your point but ok.
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much easier to see as picture.Then watch the samsung video again.And that the reason i like 5s small not big. Android have back button so pretty diff even though safari have back back button.
 
Microsoft never got into the hardware developing and releasing segment for years, however here we are, and same with Google. People change, companies evolve. No one is taking sides, we all agree that Apple does does excellent UX/UI, however that does not mean their have not made mistake, the point is that their learn from them. The same with Samsung, their make great hardware, their software needs works a lot of it, however their were more of a hardware company vice software. Apple being both. Microsoft and Android are software company, when comparing their hardware to Samsung there is no competition.

Samsung being an appliance company has their hands in a lot of pies, Apple focus these days is mainly mobile and computers is an after thought. Apple’s focus is narrow and there is nothing wrong with that. I remember an interview in the late 90’s where the CEO of Samsung basically said, we want to be a well known company that makes everything in a consumers house in 5-10 years and their will sell at a loss to reach that goal, similar to Amazon. I believe it is safe to say their have accomplished that goal. Their also want to have the best most innovative tech to be recognize as leaders from Korea worldwide to bring this tech at an affordable price. Well affordable price means their seem to have made cuts in the software department. However many developing countries have access to smartphones due in part from companies such as Samsung. Why should a select few be privileged when it comes to smartphones, LTE, internet, etc. Just because someone prefers to drive a BMW does not mean Kia should not manufacturer vehicles for people who would like the experience of vehicle ownership, many people view this as a stepping stone out of poverty.


Exactly, Samsung makes cuts in the product that negatively affects the UX in order to make it more affordable which in turn, gains Samsung more profits. Look at their netbook line. They basically start with the price, make cuts to the UX until the product can reach the price target and then they release it. Apple doesn't work that way even though slapping their name onto really cheap computers could easily make them millions of dollars.
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much easier to see as picture.Then watch the samsung video again.

i know the thumb rule you're talking about but i don't understand your point. are you saying samsung is copying apple? if so, then you pretty much agree with me but then i don't know why you disagreed with me earlier then.
 
Exactly, Samsung makes cuts in the product that negatively affects the UX in order to make it more affordable which in turn, gains Samsung more profits. Look at their netbook line. They basically start with the price, make cuts to the UX until the product can reach the price target and then they release it. Apple doesn't work that way even though slapping their name onto really cheap computers could easily make them millions of dollars.
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i know the thumb rule you're talking about but i don't understand your point. are you saying samsung is copying apple? if so, then you pretty much agree with me but then i don't know why you disagreed with me earlier then.
YES..Samsung COPYo_Oo_Oo_O
 
I have seen and used the 3M transparent wall for projectors, is this using a similar method. If not, it seems (pun) interesting ;)

Not sure. Here is a quote from their website:

Transparent OLED Pixels are Partially Clear
Each pixel in a transparent OLED display is made up of 4 sub-pixels. Color is created by the combination of the red, green, and blue sub-pixels and the remaining area of the pixel is clear. That clear section creates the transparency.

This is why there is a direct relationship between resolution and transparency. If the display contains more active pixels that creates less space for the clear pixels and results in a display that is less see through.

Black is Clear, White is Opaque
Unlike transparent LCD displays, black or dark content on the screen is clear and white or bright content is opaque. You can see this in the photos below. The car image appears to be floating in space and through the black background you can clearly see the books and pencils which are physical objects set behind the display. The full screen image of the boat appears in the foreground, but if you look closely at the hull of the boat you will see some objects behind the display, made visible by the dark area.
 
There are benefits to the silicon even if you don’t use it, such as longer useable lifespan of the product and a better, smoother user experience. I’d argue iPad Pro users are far more likely to use more of the A12X abilities, but that’s subjective. More power is great. My BMW Has 600HP and I don’t use it all the time, but it’s great when I want it.

You, like many, are failing to see the bigger picture with silicon. This is a long term story and part of a larger strategy.

The advancement in A series processors, neural networks, and domination of the mobile computing general will give Apple a huge advantage when the next big thing comes. If that’s AR, VR, or something no one has thought about, it’s undeniable the need for faster processing will be needed. You can’t just wake up and think, “Gee, we need better processors for this.” You have to build up to it and Apple is KILLING it in that space too.

Apple updates their silicone annually, most software/apps do not even use its capabilities or power (a shame) yet Apple keeps bumping the bar higher. I am not complaining, however at some point the investment has to render value for the investor. At this point Apple is investing heavily into silicone and very few if any even use the power of the A10 chip. I suspect Photoshop will push its limits, I am curious to find out.

I understand what the eventual goal is, the problem is I have yet to see a lot of apps even use the power of the A series chips to its fullest. I hope VR is not another 3D fiasco, I am an iPad Pro users 2017, and guess what no creative app I use even slows this thing down. Same apps run well on the 2018 iPad with Pencil support.

So you paid a premium for a BMW in the slight chance you get use that extra power. Hmm, seems like a bad investment, I just go to a race track for a few hours without speed limits, rent a Lamborghini and speed to my hearts content, I got my thrill without the high expense. I can do this as many times a week or month I want, without worrying about authorities.
 
Apple updates their silicone annually, most software/apps do not even use its capabilities or power (a shame) yet Apple keeps bumping the bar higher. I am not complaining, however at some point the investment has to render value for the investor. At this point Apple is investing heavily into silicone and very few if any even use the power of the A10 chip. I suspect Photoshop will push its limits, I am curious to find out.

I understand what the eventual goal is, the problem is I have yet to see a lot of apps even use the power of the A series chips to its fullest. I hope VR is not another 3D fiasco, I am an iPad Pro users 2017, and guess what no creative app I use even slows this thing down. Same apps run well on the 2018 iPad with Pencil support.

So you paid a premium for a BMW in the slight chance you get use that extra power. Hmm, seems like a bad investment, I just go to a race track for a few hours without speed limits, rent a Lamborghini and speed to my hearts content, I got my thrill without the high expense. I can do this as many times a week or month I want, without worrying about authorities.
Cars are not investments, Apple is. ;)

The BMW is just for fun and I do floor it every day, so I do use it enough.

Check this out: Samsung was already beaten and does it really look like something you’d want to use? Honestly, I have an open mind here, but Samsung needs to do like WAY better than this. If it’s anything like this, total fail.

 
Interesting and exciting to see something beyond the typical Andriod/iPhone “subway tile”.
 
Cars are not investments, Apple is. ;)

The BMW is just for fun and I do floor it every day, so I do use it enough.

Check this out: Samsung was already beaten and does it really look like something you’d want to use? Honestly, I have an open mind here, but Samsung needs to do like WAY better than this. If it’s anything like this, total fail.

Apple is a risky investment at these prices. :confused:

I am aware of this product, and made reference to it. Even the commentator mentions that it was a rush to market to be the first. However Samsung is known for its model display technology, if there were no good Apple would not use them. This is why I suspect their will do a better implementation compared to the company mentioned in the video.
 
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The next breakthrough in innovation won't be foldable screens or gimmicks like this, it will be an ultra radical overhaul of the current iOS and Android UIs. Whichever OS leads the way in bringing about real change and productivity improvements to the stale interfaces that have only marginally evolved over the last decade will have the lead, albeit likely only temporarily in the smartphone market. Multitasking measures and other improvements aside, the smartphone/tablet interface has become clunky and clumsy in trying to do too much, and a new approach from the ground up is more than necessary at this time.
 
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Not sure. Here is a quote from their website:

Transparent OLED Pixels are Partially Clear
Each pixel in a transparent OLED display is made up of 4 sub-pixels. Color is created by the combination of the red, green, and blue sub-pixels and the remaining area of the pixel is clear. That clear section creates the transparency.

This is why there is a direct relationship between resolution and transparency. If the display contains more active pixels that creates less space for the clear pixels and results in a display that is less see through.

Black is Clear, White is Opaque
Unlike transparent LCD displays, black or dark content on the screen is clear and white or bright content is opaque. You can see this in the photos below. The car image appears to be floating in space and through the black background you can clearly see the books and pencils which are physical objects set behind the display. The full screen image of the boat appears in the foreground, but if you look closely at the hull of the boat you will see some objects behind the display, made visible by the dark area.

Does Black still show up as clear if the backdrop is a lighter colour. This seems intriguing, it seems like one of those products you have to see in person to truly appreciate it.
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The next breakthrough in innovation won't be foldable screens or gimmicks like this, it will be an ultra radical overhaul of the current iOS and Android UIs. Whichever OS leads the way in bringing about real change and productivity improvements to the stale interfaces that have only marginally evolved over the last decade will have the lead, albeit likely only temporarily in the smartphone market. Multitasking measures and other improvements aside, the smartphone/tablet interface has become clunky and clumsy in trying to do too much, and a new approach from the ground up is more than necessary at this time.

Bio-computing implants, that is the future. Have we not had silicone already o_O:eek::p
 
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Does Black still show up as clear if the backdrop is a lighter colour. This seems intriguing, it seems like one of those products you have to see in person to truly appreciate it.
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Bio-computing implants, that is the future. Have we not had silicone already o_O:eek::p
stop trolling.
 
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Why were the lights dimmed when he demoed the device?

"...I would get into trouble if I showed you everything today."

He didn't open any apps. All he did was swipe up to make a still picture of app icons move off screen

Like most things in nature, life, and engineering, there will be some compromises to make it all work.
  • Effectively three displays (2 inside, 1 outside) = more power consumption
  • Flex circuit across the hinge = likely a high failure rate
  • Flex display at hinge = likely high failure rate
  • Flex display = likely low brightness, poor color accuracy, touch accuracy, etc.

First. It's two displays. Second. Samsung should have hired you.
 
It's time to deliver, that was Samsung's tagline. And what exactly did they deliver? A device that looked like a box which seems to be foldable. Seen that before. I'm not at all impressed, it's more CGI together with some theatrical sounding orchestra playing in the background in this commercial and some people stating that this is all revolutionary.

I'll be impressed when I actually do see a working device of an ultra-lightweight smartphone that's actually foldable and works.
Agreed. Happen to stumble on it on you YouTubers last night. They dimmed the lights so there was only the creen noticeable and that thick box it was in. Samsung is so desperate.
 
Oh sure. Right. That’s why they showed a video of what it will look like. Right? Right???

It’s nothing but a chunky prototype in a dark room at this point with a flashy video of what might be. This was about what I expected. This is still several years out before it goes mainstream. No doubt Apple also has concepts like this squirreled away in a lab. The difference is that they hold their cards close to their vest.

Dude it's a developer conference not a product reveal. They're giving developers heads up on what's coming next.
 
Apple is a risky investment at these prices. :confused:

I am aware of this product, and made reference to it. Even the commentator mentions that it was a rush to market to be the first. However Samsung is known for its model display technology, if there were no good Apple would not use them. This is why I suspect their will do a better implementation compared to the company mentioned in the video.
Risky? Tell me why. I’ll tell you why it’s not, just with facts.

They are going to make $13.50/share (Avg estimate, likely more as we just saw in 2018) in FY2019, have $125B in NET cash, and the biggest buyback in the world. The stock is currently trading at ~15 times earnings and 13 times ex-cash. What planet is this risky relative to other equities? Apple just put up 20% revenue growth and 40% EPS growth.

Of course, any stock can go down, but the average stock in the S&P is about twice as expensive as AAPL.

Apple is still incredibly cheap. They just made $60B in PROFIT, over twice any company in the world. Apple is one of the FEW stocks that deserves its price and is at a huge discount to the average company in the S&P.

You want risky, look at AMZN, NFLX, or even MSFT at 44 times earnings.
 
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