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Samsung to Cease Providing LCD Panels to Apple in 2013
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Sharp makes some great, competitively priced LCD displays. Sharp's Elite LED TV is rated as the best backlit LED television on the market in terms of picture quality - I have one and it's amazing. Sharp is going through a really difficult time right now financially and is ripe for a takeover. I wonder who may be interested? 
And this is just silly, as Displaymate, and others have called the iPad 3 the most accurate screen there has ever been on a consumer electronics device, in term of color, image, etc.
http://www.displaymate.com/iPad_ShootOut_1.htm
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5688/apple-ipad-2012-review/4
This hurts both companies in the short term (and it sounds like the termination has already mostly happened). In the long term it helps Apple get free of an unethical partner who had too much power: power to know Apples plans, and power to affect Apples supply. Time to rip the bandage off now, maybe, rather than wait for potential problems to become actual. (Assuming they werent already actualwho knows what has gone on.)
I have had a Retina Macbook Pro with the LG panel and use it every day since July of this year with no problems. I would really like to see a really large sample size taken of all the LG retina macbook pros to determine what percentage are actually faulty.
I do agree that those with LG panel seem to have more issues compared to Samsung's but that does not determine that having one from LG will indeed be faulty.
The issues with these forums is people tend to complain more about products here that have issues than those who actually are 100% happy because we rely on these forums to vent or ask for help.
I do agree that those with LG panel seem to have more issues compared to Samsung's but that does not determine that having one from LG will indeed be faulty.
The issues with these forums is people tend to complain more about products here that have issues than those who actually are 100% happy because we rely on these forums to vent or ask for help.
No it won't. Sales #s don't automatically equate to quality.
You know how many people McDonald's serves vs, say, Peter Luger's Steakhouse?
Dare we talk about how many albums the flavor of the week sells vs bands that actually write and perform their own music and have for decades?
No, sir, Quantity sold doesn't automatically mean "best." Not by a longshot.
That's a common misconception that S-IPS are the best panels (Apple uses them therefore they should be, right?). They were... until Samsung invented Super PLS. Super PLS is Samsung's own take on IPS that maintains viewing angle while boosting throughput (brightness). Here is a picture (from Anandtech) that shows comparison between S-IPS, I-IPS and Super PLS:
Can you recognize LG panel on this picture? I bet you can
I personally am sort of sad to see Samsung go as a parts supplier.
Now I can consider my 2011 MacBook Air "Limited Samsung Edition" -- with a Sammy LCD and SSD.
The LCD panel lottery is one of the most frustrating ones EVEN WITH Samsung in the mix. iPad3's were largely atrocious with multiple color hues from different portions of the screen (not uniform so not adjustable with jailbreak tweaks) and horrendous hue light bleed on some. I went through probably close to a dozen before I found one that was near perfect (not REALLY distracting out of the box with flawes) and as far as I can tell, perfect after calibration.
This is largely due to greed and as aforementioned, the fact most people can't tell or don't care or both.
Can't remember if it happened with my first iPhone 5 (that had annoying buzzing in the earpiece) but my 2nd and 3rd ones had interlacing issues that's gaining momentum on the forums. My current one, whoever makes the display, does NOT. Phew. Now it finally looks like a floating mosaic as opposed to looking through a screen door. Given that Sharp announced its supply was steady by the end of September, and the build week on my iPhone 5 is 40 (October), I'd place my bets on that.
Between my i5, iPad3 (both sort of picked amongst a few to get a good one) and first time try with a great MBA, I am probably set on buying Apple products for a while anyways until these stop functioning.
I've always been bothered by the notion of "luck of the draw" in terms of getting a good one, or just opting for a specific supplier. Back in the days of building a PC tower, I chose all the components I wanted and ordered the monitor I wanted. Less so with these devices that are already built, and just ready to be sold and used. Leaves a lot of room for error or for paying top dollar for parts you wouldn't otherwise have picked if left up to you.
Luckily, there is a return policy (unless you do a genius bar swap right away) if things aren't up to snuff. So exercise it.
Now I can consider my 2011 MacBook Air "Limited Samsung Edition" -- with a Sammy LCD and SSD.
The LCD panel lottery is one of the most frustrating ones EVEN WITH Samsung in the mix. iPad3's were largely atrocious with multiple color hues from different portions of the screen (not uniform so not adjustable with jailbreak tweaks) and horrendous hue light bleed on some. I went through probably close to a dozen before I found one that was near perfect (not REALLY distracting out of the box with flawes) and as far as I can tell, perfect after calibration.
This is largely due to greed and as aforementioned, the fact most people can't tell or don't care or both.
Can't remember if it happened with my first iPhone 5 (that had annoying buzzing in the earpiece) but my 2nd and 3rd ones had interlacing issues that's gaining momentum on the forums. My current one, whoever makes the display, does NOT. Phew. Now it finally looks like a floating mosaic as opposed to looking through a screen door. Given that Sharp announced its supply was steady by the end of September, and the build week on my iPhone 5 is 40 (October), I'd place my bets on that.
Between my i5, iPad3 (both sort of picked amongst a few to get a good one) and first time try with a great MBA, I am probably set on buying Apple products for a while anyways until these stop functioning.
I've always been bothered by the notion of "luck of the draw" in terms of getting a good one, or just opting for a specific supplier. Back in the days of building a PC tower, I chose all the components I wanted and ordered the monitor I wanted. Less so with these devices that are already built, and just ready to be sold and used. Leaves a lot of room for error or for paying top dollar for parts you wouldn't otherwise have picked if left up to you.
Luckily, there is a return policy (unless you do a genius bar swap right away) if things aren't up to snuff. So exercise it.
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Apple has never marketed or marketed for or against the PLS technology of Samsung. It's a very similar technology to IPS and Apple won't say anything about it. (Again, I notice those who tend to preach using facts tend to ignore facts even more)
Can you recognize LG panel on this picture? I bet you can
Yes because that's the Samsung promotion material made to make the LG display look bad. In fact if you read the Anandtech article with that picture, you'll see the white point of Samsung's Super PLS display in Galaxy Tab is very blue and the LG is actually the more accurate display of the two.
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Underlying your opinion is the premise that you know better than most people. Try selling that to Wall Street.
Opinion?
Ok - So you're saying that McDonald's (for example) because of how many Hamburgers they sell is of better quality than a Peter Luger's Hamburger. Or most other Hamburgers using sales (only) as a basis.
You really want to argue that Sales = Quality? I think you're confusing Quality with Popularity.
Yeah, there's no way Apple will ever figure that out and continue producing top shelf products. No. Way. They're done without Samsung....
If you had to deal with the lottery of bad rMBP displays - you would not respond this way...
Sure - maybe they will find other ways to fix it - but right now you HAVE to get a Samsung display to get a quality product.
Eh it doesn't bother me that much the relationship is ending as I expected it probably would happen sooner or later. As long as I can change my own memory, I will still buy Samsung.
As long as I can change my own storage devices, I will still buy Samsung.
Did Apple use Toshiba for the flash storage in the retina MacBook Pro?
As long as I can change my own storage devices, I will still buy Samsung.
Did Apple use Toshiba for the flash storage in the retina MacBook Pro?
I agree mostly but I think Apple do benefit from diversification of production and access to better technology than Samsung in IGZO which apple has already invested in heavily. I remember last year reading that Apple were investing in Sharp to up their production capacity to levels where they could supply Apples high volume needs. I have no doubt that we will see IGZO starting to appear in Apple products next year. Also I think Apple did not want to let Samsung anywhere near their in cell touch technology.
Yeah, this sucks. I never was able to get a decent rMBP but if LG doesn't get its act together then it'll be time to look elsewhere for sure.
I just can't imagine playing the lottery with a $2,200+ machine multiple times.
$500+ (up to $829 or more in other countries), sucks but I did it. Ipad3 had to be an upgrade from my iPad2, not a step backwards because of obvious screen flaws.
$200+ (subsidized upward to $850+tax or more in other countries) sucks as well. Especially with contracts, and lots of other parties involved making it more of a hassle than a retail exchange. And with limited availability.
If I didn't like the products so much, I would have given up long ago. I'd imagine it's only going to get worse with the absence of Samsung.
$500+ (up to $829 or more in other countries), sucks but I did it. Ipad3 had to be an upgrade from my iPad2, not a step backwards because of obvious screen flaws.
$200+ (subsidized upward to $850+tax or more in other countries) sucks as well. Especially with contracts, and lots of other parties involved making it more of a hassle than a retail exchange. And with limited availability.
If I didn't like the products so much, I would have given up long ago. I'd imagine it's only going to get worse with the absence of Samsung.
That's a common misconception that S-IPS are the best panels (Apple uses them therefore they should be, right?). They were... until Samsung invented Super PLS. Super PLS is Samsung's own take on IPS that maintains viewing angle while boosting throughput (brightness). Here is a picture (from Anandtech) that shows comparison between S-IPS, I-IPS and Super PLS:
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Can you recognize LG panel on this picture? I bet you can
FYI Super PLS has a lower subpixel rate than P-IPS thus a lower true colour gamut so not the "best" screen for photography.
"Best" is very hard to define with LCD technology unless you specify it's intended use.
Does that mean that we're gonna be left with LG panels...? OH.. MY.. GOD
And that's the best case scenario. You may also get a panel from AU Optronics and the likes.