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Sorry, but that homescreen looks nothing like Apple's grid layout. You'd have to be blind to mistake the physical design for an iPhone 3G too. Tell me, how does that look anything like:

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What about the phone lying down? Does that remind you of Apples grid-layout? Would you be blind not to see that?

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I think the phone you posted does look a lot like the 3G, and that this one looks a lot like 4.

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I have no horse in this race, but I'm baffled that so many refuse to admit that much of what Samsung has done is suspiciously close to Apples successful products.
 
You're reaching Reach. Grid of icons as menus and other UI controls have been around much longer than the iPhone.

Yes, Android has something called the "App tray" that uses such an icon grid control. To claim it is copied from Apple though...
 
You're reaching Reach. Grid of icons as menus and other UI controls have been around much longer than the iPhone.

Yes, Android has something called the "App tray" that uses such an icon grid control. To claim it is copied from Apple though...

I made no such claims, but I found the comment by the previous poster to be quite insane.

"Nothing like the grid-layout."

"The phone looks nothing like an iPhone."
 
I made no such claims, but I found the comment by the previous poster to be quite insane.

"Nothing like the grid-layout."

And he's right, the Home Screen is nothing like a grid-layout.

"The phone looks nothing like an iPhone."

Having seen a real Galaxy S i9000/Vibrant and owning a 3GS, I can tell you they look nothing at all alike. A few cherry picked pictures of certain angles might make it seem so, but the phones really aren't alike.
 
Doing what apple does best.... controversy! lol

But really this is 3g Technology... does it really matter in a world vastly converting to 4g internet?
 
Technology is always as such.... Someone innovates.. someone copies... then someone sues...

Isn't this the way of the lands anymore?
 
What about the phone lying down? Does that remind you of Apples grid-layout? Would you be blind not to see that?

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That's the application menu, not the home screen. If you think that was copied from Apple, then let me tell you that my Nokia N70 from 2005 had a grid layout menu (which was probably taken from an even earlier device) too, so by your thinking, Apple who copied Nokia, hm?

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I think the phone you posted does look a lot like the 3G, and that this one looks a lot like 4.
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I have no horse in this race, but I'm baffled that so many refuse to admit that much of what Samsung has done is suspiciously close to Apples successful products.

Your comments make me believe that you have never used any of the Galaxy S series. The devices look and feel nothing like the iPhone in both software and design irl.

I made no such claims, but I found the comment by the previous poster to be quite insane.

"Nothing like the grid-layout."

"The phone looks nothing like an iPhone."

And I was right, the home screen of the Galaxy S looks nothing like the grid-layout of the iPhone. If you're talking about the app menu, take a look at the Nokia above.

Also, I'm pretty sure that insulting other people (and/or their posts) is frowned upon in this forum.
 
That's the application menu, not the home screen. If you think that was copied from Apple, then let me tell you that my Nokia N70 from 2005 had a grid layout menu (which was probably taken from an even earlier device) too, so by your thinking, Apple who copied Nokia, hm?

And I was right, the home screen of the Galaxy S looks nothing like the grid-layout of the iPhone. If you're talking about the app menu, take a look at the Nokia above.

Why does this argument matter? Samsung copied Apple's home screen and called it an application menu. How does that dispute the fact that copying was involved? Is it even a claim that's involved in any of Apple's lawsuits? Apple didn't invent the grid layout, only the irrational posters think the whole grid thing is a copy on its own. But that doesn't change the fact that the app menu shown above is a copy of Apple's home screen.

This argument is frivolous as long as people continue to argue different things than what they are responding to.
 
Why does this argument matter? Samsung copied Apple's home screen and called it an application menu. How does that dispute the fact that copying was involved? Is it even a claim that's involved in any of Apple's lawsuits? Apple didn't invent the grid layout, only the irrational posters think the whole grid thing is a copy on its own. But that doesn't change the fact that the app menu shown above is a copy of Apple's home screen.

This argument is frivolous as long as people continue to argue different things than what they are responding to.

The point I'm trying to make is that Samsung didn't copy Apple's home screen. There are only two ways to make an application menu, a list and a grid of icons (you can choose either on the Galaxy S). What did you expect Samsung to do for their application menu?
 
The point I'm trying to make is that Samsung didn't copy Apple's home screen. There are only two ways to make an application menu, a list and a grid of icons (you can choose either on the Galaxy S). What did you expect Samsung to do for their application menu?

Your lack of imagination doesn't prove anything. Strangely, the grid layout in the Nokia N70 that you posted looks nothing like the Samsung app menu above. The are both grids. The Samsung app menu does looks almost identical to the iOS homescreen. 4x4 grid on a black background with title bar at top separated from a 4 item dock by small dots to indicate the number and position of the horizontal pages.

I am not claiming that Apple invented or has claim to any of those features individually, but as a whole, it's obvious that Samsung copied Apple. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
 
Your lack of imagination doesn't prove anything. Strangely, the grid layout in the Nokia N70 that you posted looks nothing like the Samsung app menu above. The are both grids. The Samsung app menu does looks almost identical to the iOS homescreen. 4x4 grid on a black background with title bar at top separated from a 4 item dock by small dots to indicate the number and position of the horizontal pages.

I am not claiming that Apple invented or has claim to any of those features individually, but as a whole, it's obvious that Samsung copied Apple. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

would it make you happy if samsung used a 4x5 layout instead?
 
would it make you happy if samsung used a 4x5 layout instead?

It wouldn't make me any happier than I already am. Copying isn't bad as long as it doesn't involve stealing IP. I don't care that Samsung copied Apple in this area. I think copying ideas is the basis for innovation. I just think it's ridiculous to claim that they didn't copy Apple, especially if you are going to use the "it's not a home screen, it's an app menu" argument.
 
It wouldn't make me any happier than I already am. Copying isn't bad as long as it doesn't involve stealing IP. I don't care that Samsung copied Apple in this area. I think copying ideas is the basis for innovation. I just think it's ridiculous to claim that they didn't copy Apple, especially if you are going to use the "it's not a home screen, it's an app menu" argument.
Samsung didn't copy Apple.
The app menu is an Android feature. Samsung didn't create it.
Samsung did however deviate from the Android spec when it comes to icons.
Android icons are not supposed to have a background (like iOS icons have).
Read the Android SDK
http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/ui_guidelines/icon_design_launcher.html
 
Samsung didn't copy Apple.
The app menu is an Android feature. Samsung didn't create it.
Samsung did however deviate from the Android spec when it comes to icons.
Android icons are not supposed to have a background (like iOS icons have).
Read the Android SDK
http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/ui_guidelines/icon_design_launcher.html

Strange that the Samsung version of the Android application menu looks the most like the iOS homescreen. In fact, the Samsung application menu posted above looks more like the iOS homescreen than the default Android app menu.
 
Strange that the Samsung version of the Android application menu looks the most like the iOS homescreen. In fact, the Samsung application menu posted above looks more like the iOS homescreen than the default Android app menu.
It's the icon style Samsung chose to use. When you combine that with the layout, it looks pretty similar to the iOS home screen.
As many stated though, this is not the first screen users see. You have to tap the app icon to bring it up.

The app menu looks the same on my Atrix minus the icon style.
Motorola stuck with the standard icon design.
The update to 2.3.x did introduce a 3D scrolling app menu which looks and moves really well. It can be disabled.
But the icons are still stock Android.

Android also now uses app categories in the app menu, so it does look different than iOS.
 
It's the icon style Samsung chose to use. When you combine that with the layout, it looks pretty similar to the iOS home screen.

That's not true. Samsung changed more than the icons. The default android app menu is not a "4x4 grid on a black background with title bar at top separated from a 4 item dock by small dots to indicate the number and position of the horizontal pages." Look at the Nexus One.

As many stated though, this is not the first screen users see. You have to tap the app icon to bring it up.

So?

The app menu looks the same on my Atrix minus the icon style.

No it doesn't.
http://cellphonequick.com/motorola-atrix-4g-review/motorola-atrix-4g-menu/

No dock.
No dots between the main grid and the dock to indicate the number and position of the horizontal pages.
 
Why nobody talking about Windows Phone UI? It's completely orthogonal to what iOS is - I guess nobody cares because it has no market share right now. But wait until WP7 hits 10% and the iTards will come out screaming "REDMOND COPIED IOS"!!!! :eek:
 
Why nobody talking about Windows Phone UI? It's completely orthogonal to what iOS is - I guess nobody cares because it has no market share right now. But wait until WP7 hits 10% and the iTards will come out screaming "REDMOND COPIED IOS"!!!! :eek:

It has taken a couple decades, but we are used to Microsoft copying Apple by now. :D
 
It has taken a couple decades, but we are used to Microsoft copying Apple by now. :D

Explain how WP7 copies iOS other then the fact it's a touch-based OS. If that's a dis-qualifier then Apple should be convicted of monopolist behavior just like MSFT was in the 90s.
 
Explain how WP7 copies iOS other then the fact it's a touch-based OS. If that's a dis-qualifier then Apple should be convicted of monopolist behavior just like MSFT was in the 90s.

Wow. The :D should have been a giveaway that he was joking.
 
Explain how WP7 copies iOS other then the fact it's a touch-based OS. If that's a dis-qualifier then Apple should be convicted of monopolist behavior just like MSFT was in the 90s.

I haven't even seen WP7 - I was only making a joke about the eternal issue (real or not) of Windows copying Mac OS.
 
That's not true. Samsung changed more than the icons. The default android app menu is not a "4x4 grid on a black background with title bar at top separated from a 4 item dock by small dots to indicate the number and position of the horizontal pages." Look at the Nexus One.



So?



No it doesn't.
http://cellphonequick.com/motorola-atrix-4g-review/motorola-atrix-4g-menu/

No dock.
No dots between the main grid and the dock to indicate the number and position of the horizontal pages.
I see what you're talking about.
The dots and dock view are not in the app menu.
That is a personal page any user can setup.
Simply press and hold an app icon in the app menu and drop it on your home screen. (you get 4 pages plus your home screen by default)
You can put icons or widgets or a mix of both.
You can even arrange it to look like an iPhone home screen if you choose, but again, they don't ship looking that way.

I own and have my Atrix sitting next to me.
I'm pretty sure I know exactly what my app screen looks like. ;)
 
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