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I'm sorry but that is pure ******** I've been trying to get a disabled person a tablet and had to get an Android one because of the lack of mouse input on the iPad (which is his only input option) So I tried the Samdung Tab 3 8" 4G because it had one of the newest Android versions where you could configure a home button on the screen (again to use with a mouse only).

This is surprising to me; generally Apple is far ahead of Android (and everyone else) in terms of accessibility features. iOS 7 has added several "motor control" features. I don't claim to really know what that is for, but is that related to the disabled person's needs at all?
 
Anyone with a 2 year old brain can look at this and say "Samsungs tablet is better for people who like to pay less and get less. Apples tablet is still the overall best and you get what you pay for."

The rest is just sensationalism. But honestly, price should be weighed much less since this is a customer SATISFACTION survey. I'd be more satisfied with a Ferrari than a Ford, doesn't mean the Ford is better because I can get 6 of them for a Ferrari. You just get 6 less satisfying cars.

Accept it, people’s feeling about satisfaction level has a lot to do how much more they hope to get when they paid that much more, and vice versa.
 
The problem stems from the fact that whomever created that table oversimplified AND incorrectly tallied how JD Power achieved their results. The math is wacky. Fact. That is not JD Power's math. Also fact. The creator of that chart assumed it was a straight 'add it up and divide by 5'.

The original Power Circle chart posted by the8thark and others clearly shows why your chart and the wacky math are invalid.

"*Please note that JDPower.com Ratings may not include all information used to determine J.D. Power awards."

If we don't know all the information we can't say their math (JDP) is wacky. It might turn out to be wacky, but that can't be determined by the chart you presented.

No, the costs of Samsung tablets are sometimes higher then the Apple ones! (Note 8.0). If you want a cheap and good android tablet you go Acer or Asus, or Nexus.
 
"*Please note that JDPower.com Ratings may not include all information used to determine J.D. Power awards."

ie Samsung's pay check.
 
Performance, Ease of Use, Physical Design, Features, Cost, Overall
Samsung 3/5, 3/5, 4/5, 4/5, 4/5, 5/5
Apple 5/5, 5/5, 5/5, 5/5, 2/5, 5/5

Samsung didn't get higher than 4/5 on anything specific but is overall 5/5 and Apple gets 5/5 on everything but cost. What in the world is this survey even measuring? Samsung is average in ease of use and average in performance and Apple is easy to use and fast, but people are more satisfied with Samsung?

Thanks to you and KALLT for doing the journalism for MacRumors. Actual user experience, Apple beat Samsung on everything to do with using the device.

Price? They didn't and I'm not sure how price factors into Experience of a product, unless you believe in fairies and just wish someone could make a better quality product for a lower price.

Clearly the ranking system isn't very good if the spread between an iPad and Asus tablet is only 14 points. Really? An iPad is only 1.7% better than an Asus tablet? Nice try.

It's the o'l Apple shakedown, again. If Apple would spend more money on advertising, they'd get better reviews. It's the economics of being in the Ad business. (JD Powers is owned by… you guessed it… a publishing company. Well wiki-how about that?)

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I'm sorry but that is pure ******** I've been trying to get a disabled person a tablet and had to get an Android one because of the lack of mouse input on the iPad…

Sorry to hear about all your troubles. I've never met anyone with so much bad luck with technology. You could easily get a job in product testing.
 
I can't think of many cheap Samsung tablets. The only ones that cost significantly less than any of the iPad line are the Tab 7.0's, and they're not big enough sellers to account for any statistical advantages.

But if you look at the JD Power survey, that seems to be what's skewing the results. iPad outscores the Galaxy Tab on every category but price. I'm not saying it's reality. It's the perception.
 
Something is not right...

From Jim Dalrymple on the Loop:

Apple scored 5 out of 5 in every category, except price, where it scored 2. Samsung had threes and fours, but still managed to get a 5 in Overall Satisfaction. That doesn’t make sense to me.

Here is how J.D. says it rates the categories:

The study measures satisfaction across five key factors (in order of importance): performance (26%); ease of operation (22%); styling and design (19%); features (17%); and cost (16%).

So cost is the lowest percentage of importance. Apple scored higher in every category, except price which is ranked the lowest by percentage, but yet Samsung wins?

If you do the math, the average score weighted as JD Power says they do should be:
Apple: 4.52
Samsung: 3.52

JD Power has some explaining to do.

Link:
http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/10/31/j-d-power-tablet-numbers-dont-add-up/
 
yo Fanboys, relax. Get a bag of candy and walk around your neighborhood. It looks like every "study" or "survey" you are taking it so seriously like somebody insulted you right. It's just a freaking phone/tablet. If you like it, then be it. If you don't, then move on.
 
The press release indicates that the Samsung tablets only topped the iPads by a very narrow margin (835 to 833). However, the overview of the categories seems to suggest that the iPad tops the Samsung tablets in almost every category, except costs. How do they explain this difference?

I concur. Apple beats Samsung by 5 to 3 in two categories, by 5 to 4 in two more categories, and loses 2 to 4 in the final category. How does it make any sense that Samsung beats Apple?
 
The press release indicates that the Samsung tablets only topped the iPads by a very narrow margin (835 to 833). However, the overview of the categories seems to suggest that the iPad tops the Samsung tablets in almost every category, except costs. How do they explain this difference?

Yeah, I don't really get it. If you add the points, the iPad clearly has a lot more. Also, I've seen those Samsung tablets... they're junk. Even my Google fan friend admits that if he were to ever buy a tablet (never since they're useless, according to him, and I kinda agree), he'd buy an iPad for sure.

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Who really gives a crap about this JD Power survey. Just buy the tablet you like and use it.

What if you buy the wrong one?
 
Performance, Ease of Use, Physical Design, Features, Cost, Overall
Samsung 3/5, 3/5, 4/5, 4/5, 4/5, 5/5
Apple 5/5, 5/5, 5/5, 5/5, 2/5, 5/5

Samsung didn't get higher than 4/5 on anything specific but is overall 5/5 and Apple gets 5/5 on everything but cost. What in the world is this survey even measuring? Samsung is average in ease of use and average in performance and Apple is easy to use and fast, but people are more satisfied with Samsung?

Beats me too... If out of 5 factors you get 3's and 4's in all how do you get an overall of 5...?!! It should be between 3 and 4... So much for basic mathematics... Lol... But I'm sure the fandroids here will ignore your post and mine and keep saying the isheep are just crying... Lol...
 
The press release indicates that the Samsung tablets only topped the iPads by a very narrow margin (835 to 833). However, the overview of the categories seems to suggest that the iPad tops the Samsung tablets in almost every category, except costs. How do they explain this difference?

Yeah, just to repeat what everyone else has instantly noticed - according to its own scores, iPad wins 27-23 in an unweighted score. Using arbitrary weighting systems is cooking results in my book. And, even taking the arbitrary weighting system into account, Apple still should have beaten Samsung easily. How can Samsung have a 5 star overall satisfaction score when it doesn't score a 5 in any other category??
 
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I'm sorry but that is pure ******** I've been trying to get a disabled person a tablet and had to get an Android one because of the lack of mouse input on the iPad (which is his only input option) So I tried the Samdung Tab 3 8" 4G because it had one of the newest Android versions where you could configure a home button on the screen (again to use with a mouse only).

If you want to use mouse, maybe you should consider a Windows 8.1 tablet. I recommend to use a 4 button mouse if that person can use it (2 buttons on top, 2 on the side). Use that extra buttons as home button or any other usual task. In any case, there is no need to touch the home button in a W8.1 tablet.
There are many recently released 8" tablets from 250-300$, and 10" from 450$.

Also the W8 interface can be customized with big icons (called "tiles") that don't waste space, because they can show updated info on them, such as the last emails, messages or news). If that person has problem to be accurate with the mouse, that is a really good thing. Much better than the tiny and inert icons in other OS.
 
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If user satisfaction purely for the device itself is what's important should cost even be factored in?

IMO it's more useful to know if customers are happy with the device, independent of price. If I don't have the device it's good to know what others think of it. I do know how much I can spend so that's not an unknown. And that is going to vary widely depending on the individual.

I just want to know which device customers are most satisfied with. I can make purchasing decisions based on what I can afford.
 
So what's the point of those individual scores if the overall score is something completely different? I have a hard time believing people would rate iPad higher in each category (except cost) but then overall rate Samsung higher. Unless they put a huge premium on cost, but JD says cost was ranked least in terms of importance.

The unfortunate point of those circles is to provide a quick visual snapshot so someone can get the gist and move on. It leaves out a lot of detail, which makes us jump to conclusions based on just what we see. I will spare you the bad analogy floating around in my head and just ask a question.

Can you take the chart you presented and extrapolate enough information to come up with a score of 835 to 833? I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night so I was unable to do it. *not funny*

My point is to get to 835 and 833 involved more that adding up circles and dividing by 5.
 
I wonder how the rankings go among people who have owned and used both Samsung and Apple? ;)

I know Android users who shrug as their phone runs dead at 4pm and say how much they LOVE Samsung and HATE how Apple "won't let you" do things with your tablet.... and then they fire up their tablet to do the only three things they ever do with it (all things that are better an iOS), while I go off to run all kinds of tablet apps they'll never have, and do things they wouldn't know how to begin on Android. Then they re-buy a new phone or tablet every year, burning more money than an iOS device that lasts, chasing the next Android fad. I'm appalled at what they'll put up with, but they simply don't know (won't let themselves believe?) that iOS is better in a lot of ways that would matter hugely to most users--if they knew.

And these people would certainly give high satisfaction scores to Samsung. Their standards are that much lower.


I know Android users who get two days out of their phones. Once again, it comes down to a simple formula of how do you use it
 
From Jim Dalrymple on the Loop:

Apple scored 5 out of 5 in every category, except price, where it scored 2. Samsung had threes and fours, but still managed to get a 5 in Overall Satisfaction. That doesn’t make sense to me.

Here is how J.D. says it rates the categories:

The study measures satisfaction across five key factors (in order of importance): performance (26%); ease of operation (22%); styling and design (19%); features (17%); and cost (16%).

So cost is the lowest percentage of importance. Apple scored higher in every category, except price which is ranked the lowest by percentage, but yet Samsung wins?

If you do the math, the average score weighted as JD Power says they do should be:
Apple: 4.52
Samsung: 3.52

JD Power has some explaining to do.

Link:
http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/10/31/j-d-power-tablet-numbers-dont-add-up/

I concur. Apple beats Samsung by 5 to 3 in two categories, by 5 to 4 in two more categories, and loses 2 to 4 in the final category. How does it make any sense that Samsung beats Apple?

But if you look at the JD Power survey, that seems to be what's skewing the results. iPad outscores the Galaxy Tab on every category but price. I'm not saying it's reality. It's the perception.

Yeah, I don't really get it. If you add the points, the iPad clearly has a lot more. Also, I've seen those Samsung tablets... they're junk. Even my Google fan friend admits that if he were to ever buy a tablet (never since they're useless, according to him, and I kinda agree), he'd buy an iPad for sure.

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What if you buy the wrong one?

Beats me too... If out of 5 factors you get 3's and 4's in all how do you get an overall of 5...?!! It should be between 3 and 4... So much for basic mathematics... Lol... But I'm sure the fandroids here will ignore your post and mine and keep saying the isheep are just crying... Lol...

Yeah, just to repeat what everyone else has instantly noticed - according to its own scores, iPad wins 27-23 in an unweighted score. Using arbitrary weighting systems is cooking results in my book. And, even taking the arbitrary weighting system into account, Apple still should have beaten Samsung easily. How can Samsung have a 5 star overall satisfaction score when it doesn't score a 5 in any other category??
This was mentioned already. The 833/835 score appears to be the Overall rating, which is its own rating section, not a compilation of these other scores. "Overall" is always a rating section, not just from JD Power, but all sorts of these 'best of 5' ratings systems all over the place. There is one when my auto shop sends a rating request for how well they did on an oil change. Never really understood why they have it when the specific sections should be more valuable for analysis, but it's always there.

What I am surprised by is the 5/5 rating. ~830/1000 is much closer to 4 star than 5. Unless I'm reading something wrong, which is entirely possible.

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Here is the post.
Base it on the question "What is your over all satisfaction?"
Putting it as complete separate category.
 
I could see Samsung grabbing a hold of this and using it in an advertisement.

Dave: Hey Bob what are you doing?
Bob: I am sending an e-mail to my parents from my new Samsung Galaxy Tablet.
Dave: Hey, I just got a new iPad Air.
Bob: Cool. My Galaxy Tablet was just rated 5 stars by J.D. Power and Associates.
Dave: My iPad didn't get that rating.
 
I've just switched to a Note 3 from an iPhone 5. Frankly, I can't believe I left it this long. I can't put it down. Still like the iPhone, but the screen on this is just astounding.

It's not like the iPhone. For example you will not get Android 4.4 anytime soon, right? And the ecosystem? Not the same. Anyway, Apple is really dumb for not making a big screen iPhone or phablet.
 
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