Samsung Turning Dispute with Apple to its Advantage in Australian Marketing

[haruhiko]

And MacRumors and other tech blogs are helping Samsung to spread this ad.

When a company become famous, everybody will try to mention it in their ads, like this one:

from a Hong Kong newspaper:

Great! PCCW Mobile
All New !Phone 5........GB data plan
(with the modified pic of the Hong Kong Apple Store)

This kind of ads are not uncommon. Please just don't put everything with the words "Apple" or "Samsung" on the headline...thanks.

 

[Mac.World]

Links, please. (And at least try to spell Samsung correctly....)

Google search it. And they will always be Samesung from now on.

 

[kalsta]

As I said a couple of weeks ago, the publicity from all this hasn't hurt the Galaxy Tab in Australia. I imagine it's worked to Samsung's advantage.

 

[2IS]

Such a fool I've been.

Well at least I've learned that Apple never calls out the competition.

Props to them.

/snip

Whats funny is that one of Apple's biggest advertising campaigns was directly against their competition. How quickly the fanboys forget... Here's a reminder.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuqZ8AqmLPY

That said, they were damn funny.

 

[Mac.World]

True, they showed off what was to become the Galaxy Tab 10.1v to the public in February.
Uh ? Dual core processor, front (2 MP) and back (8MP) cameras, 21 mbps HSPA+... stop me when I get to the "iPad 1 specs" please. Oh right, this thing wasn't based off the iPad 1 specs at all, that's you spreading misinformation and FUD.
By changing... what exactly ? What is the difference between the 10.1v and the 10.1 ?
Let me tell you :

- the 10.1 has a 3 MP back camera instead of 8 on the 10.1v
- the 10.1 is thinner by 2 mm than the 10.1v (and the iPad 2 consequently)
- the 10.1 has a 64 GB storage option that the 10.1v doesn't

Otherwise, same tablet.
So what exactly in those 3 changes is "literally copying everything they could" from the iPad 2 ?
Oh right, it's not because you just don't know what you're talking about :

10.1v specs
10.1 specs

It's so hilarious seeing all the people bash Samsung yet not realising that we're on this big network called the Internet where we can fact check and prove them wrong so easily. .

Since you are too lazy or too incompetent to bother reviewing history, I'll just quote this for you. The rest of your rambling is a waste of space. By the way, what Samesung showed in Feb was nothing like what they released in June. Good try though.

As reported on Mar 4, 2011, Dong-Joo Lee, executive vice president of Samsung Mobile division, spoke to Yonhap News Agency about the concerns over the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 in its current state when compared to the new iPad 2: "We will have to improve the parts that are inadequate? Apple made it very thin."
While it might be a small setback for Samsung Mobile, this is actually good news for consumers. A new standard has been set with the iPad 2 release, and with the Motorola XOOM already out and the BlackBerry Playbook just a month away from release, Samsung Mobile has the best chance of reconfiguring their PC tablet to meet it.

And from wikipedia:

Samsung first showed a new Galaxy Tab model in January 2011 at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona. The original model features a bigger 10.1" HD display with a dual-core Nvidia Tegra 2 SoC, running Google's Android Honeycomb operating system, and was to be released in partnership with Vodafone. It was set for a US release in March 2011 and a European release in April. However, after the iPad 2 release, some specifications were described as "inadequate" by Lee Don-Joo, Samsung's CEO, pointing to a possible model review or a rethink of their market strategy.
This led to introducing a new, slimmer model at the Samsung Unpacked Event during CTIA Wireless convention in March 2011, and an 8.9" model, pushing the release date back to 8 June for the US and "early summer" for the latter. Although there was no information about a delay of the European release date, it was announced that the prior design, seen at the Mobile World Congress, would be sold, labeling it as the Galaxy Tab 10.1V, and was rapidly dumped by Samsung leaving customers aghast with the lack of support.
As of 16 October, no Android 3.1 update for the 10.1V has been announced or confirmed.

Ain't history a bitch? Nah, of course Samesung didn't copy Apple, did they? It's all coincidence, right? Don't let facts get in the way though.
Of course, there is also the copying of the 30 pin dock connector, the oh so similar icons that Samesung uses, the similarities in apps, and so on... As I said, I can predict when the next Tab will be released. 3 months after the next new version of the iPad. Care to bet me on that?
Enjoy the images. I know they don't really help your argument much, but don't let imagery and facts dissuade you. I hate using a well used set of images, but for someone like you, it's obviously needed. And disregard the first image, although it is fitting.

 

[Thex1138]

Samsung a frakking Bunch of Try hard leeches

they copy hardware and software, cry poor old me, then claim that they are benefiting from legal action against them for copyright breaches that they have instigated....

Frakk buying any Spamsung products again.... poor old Korean bu$#!t !

 

[kaizenmx]

It's funny how these rotten apple drone tards are b*tching and brings the entire nation into this disucssion and start blaming that country.

enjoy your hip-fad bs products you ignorant sobs...

 

[InYou101]

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It's funny reading on here how people go at each other as if they own a portion of the companies in question lol. The bottom line is Samsung did not creat the tablet just like Apple did not creat the cell phone or the TV. I think it is great to have such competition, that keeps each company striving to make the best and keeps prices low. If you don't agree please post a comment so that I can laugh some more... and yes I do like apple products but I'm not blind.

 

[dokujaryu]

Since you are too lazy or too incompetent to bother reviewing history, I'll just quote this for you. The rest of your rambling is a waste of space. By the way, what Samesung showed in Feb was nothing like what they released in June. Good try though.



And from wikipedia:

Ain't history a bitch? Nah, of course Samesung didn't copy Apple, did they? It's all coincidence, right? Don't let facts get in the way though.
Of course, there is also the copying of the 30 pin dock connector, the oh so similar icons that Samesung uses, the similarities in apps, and so on... As I said, I can predict when the next Tab will be released. 3 months after the next new version of the iPad. Care to bet me on that?
Enjoy the images. I know they don't really help your argument much, but don't let imagery and facts dissuade you. I hate using a well used set of images, but for someone like you, it's obviously needed. And disregard the first image, although it is fitting.

Image

[begin sarcasm]
I had to squint pretty hard to see any similarity between those products, ESPECIALLY the Safari icon in the store. Also, since you aren't talking about the article, even though I also wasn't, I suddenly have no interest in your comments.
[end sarcasm]

 

[Pistolator]

There might be another suit from an unlikely quarter

That logo looks suspiciously like the old soft drink TAB (that's soda for the Americans).
Hmm, makes me thirsty...

 

[sapporobaby]

[begin sarcasm]
I had to squint pretty hard to see any similarity between those products, ESPECIALLY the Safari icon in the store. Also, since you aren't talking about the article, even though I also wasn't, I suddenly have no interest in your comments.
[end sarcasm]

[Start Facts]
Could it be because you got owned? Yup, I spelled it correctly.
[End Facts]

 

[Renzatic]

[Start Facts]
Could it be because you got owned? Yup, I spelled it correctly.
[End Facts]

Yeah. I'm beginning to think that picture is some handy shortcut for instant internet ownage or something like. I mean it's gotta be something special, considering all the countless people who have posted it countless times within the last 3 months alone.

All we need now is for someone to post the J.D Powers Customer Satisfaction chart and we'll have completed the usual "OH YEAH? WELL..." picture argument circle.

Oh what the hell! I'll go ahead and do it myself!

 

[Oletros]

Since you are too lazy or too incompetent to bother reviewing history, I'll just quote this for you. The rest of your rambling is a waste of space. By the way, what Samesung showed in Feb was nothing like what they released in June. Good try though.



And from wikipedia:

Ain't history a bitch? Nah, of course Samesung didn't copy Apple, did they? It's all coincidence, right? Don't let facts get in the way though.

Have you noticed that the bitch history gives him the reason and that you have been owned?

PS, a little secret, the Galaxy Tab 10.1 showed at MWC in february was exactly the same front and specs (only changed the camera mpx) that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 slim

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[begin sarcasm]
I had to squint pretty hard to see any similarity between those products, ESPECIALLY the Safari icon in the store.
[end sarcasm]

Perhaps is similar to Safari icon because is NOT a Samsung store but a Euronics store where iPhones and iPads are sold.

Eh, perhaps, but why check the facts first?

 

[teepzo]

Article in SMH is by Asher Moses

Committed Samsung Reporter
Anti Apple

Guess someone forgot to include him on the Christmas Hookers list one year.....

The quoted comments are not his but one he got from Samsung

 

[JAT]

LOL !

And waiting for a Mac fan to say that since the clip didn't use the word "Microsoft" it wasn't an attack.

Yeah, for sure.

The only question was whether it attacks users. Which it doesn't. Unless, as I've been instructed by divinox, they are so tied up in Windows that any attack on it must be viewed as an attack on them personally. (or possibly if there are persons named "Vista" or "XP", there could be confusion)

And you say Mac users are too sensitive about their computers.

It's so hilarious seeing all the people bash Samsung yet not realising that we're on this big network called the Internet where we can fact check and prove them wrong so easily.

You are right, I had stopped looking for the Slate. Sorry, didn't realize they finally got several on a shelf....somewhere. But frankly, this quote is a little sad. Internet searching as an avocation bores me. So, sorry for not searching that much.

 

[divinox]

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Apple didn't invent multitouch, or the pc!?!? Where the hell did you get these facts like woah. lol however apple was the first to make both of those into what their used in today

Where i got them?

RDF #1: Apple invented multi-touch.

Steve Jobs, 2007 Keynote.

"And we have invented this new technology called multi-touch, and its phenomenal -- it works like magic [...] and boy have we patented it!"
​

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JZBLjxPBUU

RDF #2: Apple invented the PC

Welcome IBM-ad. 1981.

"When we invented the first personal computer system, we estimated that over 140,000,000 people worldwide could justify the purchase of one, if only they understood its benefits."
​

Clearly, Apple would never tell a blatant lie like that.

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Since you are too lazy or too incompetent to bother reviewing history, I'll just quote this for you. The rest of your rambling is a waste of space. By the way, what Samesung showed in Feb was nothing like what they released in June. Good try though.



And from wikipedia:

Ain't history a bitch? Nah, of course Samesung didn't copy Apple, did they? It's all coincidence, right? Don't let facts get in the way though.
Of course, there is also the copying of the 30 pin dock connector, the oh so similar icons that Samesung uses, the similarities in apps, and so on... As I said, I can predict when the next Tab will be released. 3 months after the next new version of the iPad. Care to bet me on that?
Enjoy the images. I know they don't really help your argument much, but don't let imagery and facts dissuade you. I hate using a well used set of images, but for someone like you, it's obviously needed. And disregard the first image, although it is fitting.

Image

Reacting to competition is not copying. Its a fundamental principle of business. Apple had a product. Samsung released a product they felt to be better. Apple released a product they felt to be better. Samsung released a product they felt to be better. Competing != copying.

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they copy hardware and software, cry poor old me, then claim that they are benefiting from legal action against them for copyright breaches that they have instigated....

Frakk buying any Spamsung products again.... poor old Korean bu$#!t !

You're buying Samsung products every time you buy something (substantial) from Apple, more or less.

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[begin sarcasm]
I had to squint pretty hard to see any similarity between those products, ESPECIALLY the Safari icon in the store. Also, since you aren't talking about the article, even though I also wasn't, I suddenly have no interest in your comments.
[end sarcasm]

The Safari logo put up by Euronics, and part of the overall section back-drop you mean? Yeah, good find! Really. What next, take a picture of Ahmadinejad in front of an American flag and call him American patriot?

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The only question was whether it attacks users. Which it doesn't. Unless, as I've been instructed by divinox, they are so tied up in Windows that any attack on it must be viewed as an attack on them personally. (or possibly if there are persons named "Vista" or "XP", there could be confusion)

And you say Mac users are too sensitive about their computers.
You are right, I had stopped looking for the Slate. Sorry, didn't realize they finally got several on a shelf....somewhere. But frankly, this quote is a little sad. Internet searching as an avocation bores me. So, sorry for not searching that much.

Not what i said. Stop misrepresenting me, thank you.

 

[MonkeySee....]

Please explain to me how that Samsung print add attacked users?

Apple mocked an enormous user base buy portraying PC(Windows) users as nerdy bufoons while mac users were smooth talking hipsters...

How can you ask that question when you replied to my original post? Did you not read it it properly?

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I believe you guys were discussing several of Samsung's ads all at once. This ad referenced in this story does not attack users, but the one making fun of people who stand in line for phones does. (which those people probably deserve)

Mac vs PC ads were about hardware. It was a metaphor, you seriously don't see that? Maybe you should watch them again, esp the ones that DID have users in them. The users were always treated well by the ads.

This was my point which you made a lot clearer

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[begin sarcasm]
I had to squint pretty hard to see any similarity between those products, ESPECIALLY the Safari icon in the store. Also, since you aren't talking about the article, even though I also wasn't, I suddenly have no interest in your comments.
[end sarcasm]

Squint to see the similarity?

Its the actual Apple icons. Not their version of them. The ACTUAL icons

 

[PlipPlop]

Typical Crapple Fanboys crying because Samsung is dominating them.

 

[KnightWRX]

Since you are too lazy or too incompetent to bother reviewing history, I'll just quote this for you. The rest of your rambling is a waste of space. By the way, what Samesung showed in Feb was nothing like what they released in June. Good try though.

I just reviewed history for you... What was showed in February is what became known as the Tab 10.1v. Here's a bit of history to refresh your memory about all the facts I listed :

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/25/samsungs-original-galaxy-tab-10-1-renamed-the-tab-10-1v-thicke/

The Tab 10.1 wasn't much of a change aside from the 3 things I listed.

Good try what ? You haven't even responded to my post. Heck your Wikipedia quote actually supports me and what I said, it says the same thing I did, that you were completely off the mark with your post. BTW, insults are against forum rules, next time I'll simply report your post.

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And you say Mac users are too sensitive about their computers.
You are right, I had stopped looking for the Slate. Sorry, didn't realize they finally got several on a shelf....somewhere. But frankly, this quote is a little sad. Internet searching as an avocation bores me. So, sorry for not searching that much.

So you'd rather spread misinformation and FUD and look like you don't what you're talking about when called on an obvious blunder than fact check first ?

 

[JoeG4]

Hello

http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/samsung-digital-picture-frame-stores-pics-movies-music/

The more I think about it, the less I want an Android tablet right now. I don't really want an iPad either.. I'll just... hug my Touchpad and ignore all this while I use my goofy (and sometimes buggy) operating system! WebOS reminds me a lot more of OS X than iOS or Android or anything else >>

Off topic but this is where samsung deserves crap:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/cyanogenmod-team-bails-on-samsung-vibrant-cites-inability-to-di/

they decided to stop giving android developers support (or something?) to allow the vibrant to dial 911 while using 3rd party roms. Oh man!

 

[divinox]

Hello

http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/09/samsung-digital-picture-frame-stores-pics-movies-music/

The more I think about it, the less I want an Android tablet right now. I don't really want an iPad either.. I'll just... hug my Touchpad and ignore all this while I use my goofy (and sometimes buggy) operating system! WebOS reminds me a lot more of OS X than iOS or Android or anything else >>

Off topic but this is where samsung deserves crap:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/cyanogenmod-team-bails-on-samsung-vibrant-cites-inability-to-di/

they decided to stop giving android developers support (or something?) to allow the vibrant to dial 911 while using 3rd party roms. Oh man!

1) You need to rewrite that article
2) Does Apple deserve crap if i can't jailbreak it the way i want?

edit: reread, not rewrite. my bad. was in a rush.

 

[Lennholm]

Depends on the minor details that get the Samsung name into households. Hearing about a company being sued by another company for copying, then counter suing, products being banned, then unbanned..

Is that really good publicity, even if it does get Samsung into the household name?

If my friend goes to a new burger place and gets diarrhea, and tells me the source of what caused it, that's getting the burger place name into my household, but not for the right reasons..
.

Why are you assuming that everyone sees Samsung as the bad guys in this? Also, you seem to greatly underestimate the importance to a product of simply being visible in the media.

The Galaxy tab seems pretty weak if they need to resort to this kind of ad campaign.

All non-Apple products are weak in the media awereness department because they simply get no press. Everyone wants Apple products because that's simply the only products that are visible in the media.
I know Apple fanboys are going to completely dismiss how much of a factor in Apple's popularity this really is but the fact that the popularity of the Galaxy Tab has increased after it's gotten alot of media visibility shows that this is the case.
And we see this correlation in the market time and time again.

"All publicity is good publicity", it's not just a catchphrase

 

[ChazUK]

they decided to stop giving android developers support (or something?) to allow the vibrant to dial 911 while using 3rd party roms. Oh man!

Samsung are very developer friendly, going so far as employing them and donating hardware to developers.

The situation with the Vibrant is crap but dwelling on only negtives gives a skewed view.

 

[devilstrider]

Come on already!! Pull the 38,000 troops out of the DMZ. Push for reunification!! Then forget about Samsung's Bulls***.

Me being in the military makes me look at you like you are stupid.

 

[divinox]

Samsung are very developer friendly, going so far as employing them and donating hardware to developers.

The situation with the Vibrant is crap but dwelling on only negtives gives a skewed view.

Real question: Have Cydia reached out to Samsung for a solution? To me, it hardly seems like a critical thing for them to protect; had i been them i would've offered any support they've asked for, basically. Or, am i missing something here? Are there risks at play that i am failing to see?