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If the apple watch, homepod, air pods, etc aren't innovative, why would the "fold" be considered innovative? It's just another iteration of an iteration. Whatever your personal definition of innovation is or looks like.

Exactly to all the naysayers against Apple. What the Apple Watch has become over the past few years is proof of innovation at both the hardware and software level. When the Pebble first came out there really wasn't much competition for it, but now Pebble is gone and the Apple Watch is THE smart watch to beat. It does so much that I must admit I was a detractor of the watch when it first came out. I thought I would never buy it as it was useless. Today I own the series 4 and use it every day including weekends. I have a heart condition and it's really helped me track my rhythm. I first thought that calling on it would be silly, but now it's a very useful feature. The quality is what makes this watch stand out. Since I don't have it on all night (I turn it off before I go to bed) I can get 3 days between charges.
 
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I guess at the moment, the folding smartphone makers really need to start recouping some R&D costs.
But I don't think the product is really ready for the big time yet. Give it another 5-10 years perhaps.

At the moment I'm not sure why I would want to carry around a smartphone that is twice as thick and heavy as my current one?

In the future, when they can get a foldable phone to be the thickness and weight of current phones, I think they will sell like hotcakes.
 
So it's basically a very expensive Nintendo 3DS
JK JK
Honestly, it looks pretty cool and I guess it is meant for early adopters so that they can pay off the R&D costs. My guess is the the first generation will be pretty rough, and maybe around 2021 the product will become really solid
 
Wouldn't it just be better to have a Galaxy tab and a Galaxy S10? Or an iPad and an iPhone? This is neat, but it's a little small as a tablet and a little small as a smart phone. For $2000? Okay.
 
The opinions on here are hilarious as always.

"It isn't reasonably priced!" - Yes, it isn't for you, it's for those who enjoy being on the bleeding edge of tech that make enough money where $2,000 isn't a big deal

"But, still...really? Apple wouldn't be THIS crazy" - Remember the original MacBook Air in 2008? The BASE model was $1800 ($2100 in today's money). It wasn't for the average consumer until at least the 2011-2012 model when they phased out the old white unibody MacBook. So, perhaps we will all have folding phones in 2022.

"They just copied Apple's patent...
"Apple will just copy this...."
- Everyone copies everyone and continually sues each other. We all wait by and hope that if nothing else, the nonsense fighting between Mom (Samsung) and Dad (Apple) somehow leads us with new and better Christmas toys under the tree so that we ignore them and are happy for at least a month until the cycle repeats.
 
If it broke in half, would I be able to continue using one half, Darth Maul style? I prefer thin.
 
I’m not sure you’d want to be “exploring the tenderloin” in SF with your new 2K smartphone :oops::rolleyes:

LOL, I caught that too. I wouldn’t want to even be walking around Beverly Hills with this thing, much less the Tenderloin! Yikes!

And that brings me to the biggest problem with this device. Because it is so large and unique, everyone will know you are waving a $2000 device around. I am paranoid enough with a device much much cheaper. I can’t even imagine how nervous I would be at either dropping or having a $2000 device snatched from my hand. Maybe even both...snatched from and then broken right in front of me. Just to be jerks.
 
Gotta wonder how long that screen hinge is going to hold up.

Somebody needs to subject that phone to cyclic opening and closing to see how long before pixels start dying.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I bet Samsung has a machine to do just this. Now maybe this phone, with all its R&D, slipped through the cracks and didn't get tested, but I don't think so ;)
 
I love that they’re pushing the envelope, but it doesn’t quite seem ready for prime time.

The rule is usually wait for the third iteration of a product for the kinks to be worked out, and I can see this being a huge hit in the future, but not at that price tag and not looking so damn thick.
 
No idea what anyone would want to copy that but guessed you were joking.

It is definitely something new but is either a small tablet or a really odd aspect ratio / *thick* phone. Interesting to see if it sells so there's a gen2 improvement.

I agree. I think this is a horrible design. Tablet mode is way too small. The best concept so far is the Razr. Folding phones should be to make the footprint smaller, not open to a useless tablet. Awkward to use the keyboard and no s-pen. Just weird.
 
This is awesome. I want a tablet in my pocket. Dont want to carry that huge ipad tablet everywhere. The best camera is the one you have with you. The same thing apple to this samsung tablet

Sorry apple fan but ipad cant compare with this tablet that can fit in your pocket.
 
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I can see this can be very popular if Samsung release another Folding tablet without the phone and selling for$1000. It will kill the iPad. It will be lot thinner, have better battery and fit in your pocket.
 
LOL, I caught that too. I wouldn’t want to even be walking around Beverly Hills with this thing, much less the Tenderloin! Yikes!

And that brings me to the biggest problem with this device. Because it is so large and unique, everyone will know you are waving a $2000 device around. I am paranoid enough with a device much much cheaper. I can’t even imagine how nervous I would be at either dropping or having a $2000 device snatched from my hand. Maybe even both...snatched from and then broken right in front of me. Just to be jerks.

I agree with you. I feel borderline uncomfortable with a 64GB XS Max, I wouldn’t want anything beyond that boundary being carried around. However (especially when I lived in the bay) there were plenty of people I knew that would have bought it simply because people would know they had disposable income. For example one used to buy the largest storage IPhone so he could say he had the best version despite the fact he used maybe a 1/10 of the storage, and you can’t even really tell what storage a person has by just looking. Narcissism can be a scary thing.
 
Samsung Galaxy S line product owner checking in.

I think the idea is cool. This is meant for bleeding edge tech customers. People who spend thousands in luxury goods each month for themselves and don't care about price. Even someone with household income of 2-300K won't really buy this.

I'm going to avoid stating who would buy this even if social norms have dictated the precise group of people who buy stuff without caring about price.

That said, it's cool new tech, but it needs a lot of polish that a first generation phone/tablet can't provide unless they get some customer feedback. I would probably be interested in a device like this in the future if it was half the thickness it is now when folded, and didn't run into thermal throttling issues. The most I'd want to pay for tech like this is $1,500 and expect two years of use out of it if I chose to not upgrade the next year.


Samsung is the only Android phone manufacturer I like and enjoy using. Pixels are quality, but they're too stock for me. If Samsung can learn from this or any device and develop a better product year after year, then I'm all ears.

LOL, I caught that too. I wouldn’t want to even be walking around Beverly Hills with this thing, much less the Tenderloin! Yikes!

And that brings me to the biggest problem with this device. Because it is so large and unique, everyone will know you are waving a $2000 device around. I am paranoid enough with a device much much cheaper. I can’t even imagine how nervous I would be at either dropping or having a $2000 device snatched from my hand. Maybe even both...snatched from and then broken right in front of me. Just to be jerks.
Holy crap. You're alive.
 
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that I bet Samsung has a machine to do just this. Now maybe this phone, with all its R&D, slipped through the cracks and didn't get tested, but I don't think so ;)
Samsung is the company that let you put the stylus into note devices backwards, knowing it would break your device.

Don't count on quality control as a given.
 
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great... apple will use this to justify an iphone at that price

True, but instead of a folding screen, Apple's $1980 phone will dock to an external screen accessory priced at only $4980 more ($9980 for the pro version with pencil support). The accessory will look very similar to an iPad mini without a CPU or battery, but the mini won't support phone docking.
 
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