Samsung Unveils New Gear S3 Smart Watch With GPS and LTE [Update: Will Support iPhone]

[ColdShadow]

The Apple Watch is the best selling smartwatch by far. People can say what they want but people are voting overwhelmingly with their hard earned cash for the Apple Watch.
Like I said, I work in design, poll released


Lol thanks for the laugh

best selling smart watch because the whole smart watch market is still a very limited niche market,it's not a major line like phones,etc so of course Apple watch sells more than Motorola watch etc anything with the Apple brand sells..but unlike all other Apple oroducts that are great,Apple watch is not.the design absolutely sucks.

it's no secret that Apple watch was not a success,again go to any random Apple store,anytime,you will see people trying out iphones,Macs,iPads but barely anyone even looking at that watch table.
so a few geeks spending their cash on these things doesn't make it a great product nor a success.
it doesn't sell well because in its current form it's pointless,just a tiny remote screen for iPhone..and it doesn't even look attractive as a fashion item.

 

[SHNXX]

best selling smart watch because the whole smart watch market is still a very limited niche market,it's not a major line like phones,etc so of course Apple watch sells more than Motorola watch etc anything with the Apple brand sells..but unlike all other Apple oroducts that are great,Apple watch is not.the design absolutely sucks.

it's no secret that Apple watch was not a success,again go to any random Apple store,anytime,you will see people trying out iphones,Macs,iPads but barely anyone even looking at that watch table.
so a few geeks spending their cash on these things doesn't make it a great product nor a success.
it doesn't sell well because in its current form it's pointless,just a tiny remote screen for iPhone..and it doesn't even look attractive as a fashion item.

Apple Watch sales have outpaced the iPhone in its first year to the tune of 6 billion dollars in revenue, which is greater than Rolex's revenue (4.6) and close to that of the Swatch group (8+ billion), which comes from a 100x larger product line.

While Apple Watch is unlikely to ever become the generation-defining product that the iPhone has become, it takes a rather strange definition of "success" to see the Apple Watch as a failure.

 

[Night Spring]

This is the post I replied to. The Samsung watch was not mentioned.

For what it's worth, I do find that most smartwatches other than Apple Watch that I see in stores are too big for me. The Samsung S3 is just the latest example of it.

 

[Steve686]

Why would they allow a competitor who flat out copied their phone designs to have any place in their iOS or OS X environments?

I love my iPhone. Every model since the first.

Having said that, I also have a Samsung S7 edge and I love its superior camera, edge to edge curved glass, smaller profile with same size screen, "health sensor" on the backside, super sharp AMOLED screen, and extra loud earpiece during phone calls.

Samsung may have borrowed some starting points from Apple in terms of making phones but you would be naive to think Samsung has just sat around to this point copying Apple's trail of technology. Samsung has actually upped the technology/competition in the smartphone market by actually leaping ahead of Apple in numerous areas of advancement and ergonomics.

I'll be getting my next iphone at launch soon, but I am not betting the farm that I'll use it much more than my Samsung over the next year.

 

[draugminaion]

Yeah, I understand having digital time on the status bar of say, a computer or phone, because it fits better and is easy to read when small.

OTOH, a lot of people prefer analog because it's easier to instantly determine durations. Perhaps especially those of us who have been wearing watches 24/7 since we were kids.

I want to like watches. I had a very nice Seiko in my late teens. It broke. As technology progressed, to earn it's keep on my wrist I wanted more than simply telling the time. I had a two or three unremakable digital watches. Then I mostly gave up. But it kept nagging me, occasionally I'd check if the watch I liked actually still did not exist. Before smartwatches watches came in 4 categories, cheap ornaments ( swatch and such ), expensive elegant understated displays of WW1 era craftsmanship, the "Look I'm a diver / I own a sailboat / I can afford an enormous lump of precious metal with no utility" category, and lastly watches pretending to be one of those 3. None of that appealed to me. Then in a moment of weakness, thinking it might be something new, I got a G-Shock. Then I gave up again. Until there was the pebble. I could do a lot of silly things like show fuzzy time or binary, or the time in Galifreyan, and some useful things like notifications. And now the Apple Watch. Black Diamond coated steel, the Darth Vader model. Better than the Pebble in almost every way.

Of course, sometimes having both display styles is handy

Which clock face do you use on your Apple Watch?

Modular on weekdays, with date, HoursTracker, Activiy++, sunset/rise and stocks as complications.
Solar on weekends.
Mickey Mouse when there is something to celebrate.
Once in a while something I configure for special occasions, like a Kraftwerk concert.

With a red band of-course!
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You response was so ****ing stupid...I don't know where to begin to respond to it....

Ok. Two points for trying! Keep practicing!!
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it's no secret that Apple watch was not a success,

The Apple Watch sold twice as many in its first year as the iPhone.
Apple Watch revenue in the first year was 6 billion.
Tesla revenue, for example, was 4 billion in that year.
Apple Watch sold twice (or was it four times?} as many units as the Amazon Echo.

Are iPhones, Teslas and the Amazon Echos "not a success"?

 

[BaltimoreMediaBlog]

This is the first watch I like from Samsung, and it actually looks great!
and I expect they are a step ahead the Apple Watch II

let's wait and see...

But does it explode?

 

[bruinsrme]

[doublepost=1472662144][/doublepost]"With a battery that lasts up to four days on a single charge, users can enjoy their music, make calls and show off their stylish smartwatch longer." WOW

I would settle for a 2 day battery.
3 would be great
4 crazy.

 

[aduteau]

The Apple Watch sold twice as many in its first year as the iPhone.
Apple Watch revenue in the first year was 6 billion.
Tesla revenue, for example, was 4 billion in that year.
Apple Watch sold twice (or was it four times?} as many units as the Amazon Echo.

Are iPhones, Teslas and the Amazon Echos "not a success"?

Exactly !!! Not a success is decided by so called industry expert who are just Wall Street speculators that want to manipulate the prices of the shares to make a profit off selling them as brokers... Success is now defined by out over the top numbers that are always compared to iPhone sales ! People should take a step back and really think things over with how to measure a success instead of just reading the "experts" headlines on news sites with meaningless expected sells numbers that THEY think will happen. Do we actually believe that those people working at Wall Street have a clue about technology or how people interact with it ? ....

Of course the watch will not sell as much as an iPhone ... it does not have a two year contract that helps the buyer not shell out the full price upfront like the iPhone or any other smartphone.

Smartphone selling numbers are in a league of their own because of that ... plus people are really tempted to buy a new smartphone every time the two year contract finished ... Unlike an iPad (tablet) or smartwatch ... people who gave lots of cash for it upfront will want to keep it for a long time. This concept makes sure block buster numbers are almost always in the making.

 

[Mac 128]

The Apple Watch sold twice as many in its first year as the iPhone.
Apple Watch revenue in the first year was 6 billion.
Tesla revenue, for example, was 4 billion in that year.
Apple Watch sold twice (or was it four times?} as many units as the Amazon Echo.

Are iPhones, Teslas and the Amazon Echos "not a success"?

Well it's all relative isn't it? What were the R&D costs vs. market captured?

By all accounts the Watch required substantial resources and startup costs. The iPhone did too. But the question I have about the iPhone is who bought them, and how big was the Apple user base when it launched? What percentage of that user base bought them? Apple entered a brand new market with a stand alone product. The Watch wasn't really that different from the iPhone, and it required the iPhone -- which means the potential customer base for the Watch was something like half-a-billion iPhone users. But Apple reportedly sold around 12 million in its first year -- so around 3% of the potential customer base. Since the holiday 1st quarter, Apple's results have been dropping in the other category. So indications are the Watch is not selling as well as it was.

So was it a success? Again, we need a lot more info than were likely to ever have. But even though it sold twice as many as the original iPhones, the percentage of potential customers may be much smaller compared to the iPhone to Mac/iPod ratio for a product that was like nothing Apple had ever offered before, at a time when the smartphone user base was much smaller, and contracts locked customers into the phones they were currently using at the time of the launch. Versus, a much larger potential market for the watch, which is essentially a miniaturization of a product Apple has been offering for a decade. So until we can answer the question about development costs versus percentage of potential sales compared to cost of the device sold, and what the profit margin is, I doubt we can objectively call it a success at this point.

 

[kdarling]

For what it's worth, I do find that most smartwatches other than Apple Watch that I see in stores are too big for me. The Samsung S3 is just the latest example of it.

Yeah, smaller is a market that definitely needs to be addressed more.

My oldest daughter uses Android, and we keep trying to find a watch that fits her and her needs.

I bought an Omate Lutetia (originally a Kickstarter project, using the same kind of flat-tire round display as in the Moto 360, but smaller) in an attempt to find something more feminine for her, but it was stolen in the mail and I never got a replacement.



Apple is smart to make a smaller model, and I think more manufacturers should do so.

(On the iOS side of things, I gave my iPhone-loving daughter-in-law a 38mm Apple Watch, but she always has her iPhone in her hand, and she always replies to every notification, so it turned out that she had no use for the watch! Oh well.)

 

[Pentium]

But does it explode?

lol I don't know if they have this edition yet

 

[saturn88]

The Gear S3 design looks as generic conventional watch. In terms of form factor I still prefer Samsung original Gear S design. I think it will come back bezel-free.

 

[rp2011]

The Gear S3 design looks as generic conventional watch. In terms of form factor I still prefer Samsung original Gear S design. I think it will come back bezel-free.

Completely agree
[doublepost=1472851795][/doublepost]I think if you are set on getting a traditional "watch" or want your wearable to look like a traditional round watch, just but a traditional round watch. Why all the bellyaching?

The Apple Watch made a mistake by calling it a watch and getting anal retentives all bent out of shape it's not really a watch, it's much more. It's a wearable computer. Who puts a round screen on a computer other than radar scope?
Design rule number one. Form follows function. The gear 3 looks like a gimmick. Looks tacky. It's the equivalent of vinyl wood paneling. Why???

 

[Rogifan]

How come the only faces you ever see in these promotional shots are skeuomorphic analog watch faces (that never look like the device IRL)? The promo shots always make these watches look nicer than they are IRL.

Here's a Huawei promotional shot vs the watch IRL:

And here's what it looks like without an analog watch face:

 

[ColdShadow]

Apple Watch sales have outpaced the iPhone in its first year to the tune of 6 billion dollars in revenue, which is greater than Rolex's revenue (4.6) and close to that of the Swatch group (8+ billion), which comes from a 100x larger product line.

While Apple Watch is unlikely to ever become the generation-defining product that the iPhone has become, it takes a rather strange definition of "success" to see the Apple Watch as a failure.

Comparing sales amd revenues of Apple watch to real mechanical watches is just irrelevant and makes no sense.
it's a well known fact it wasn't that "new thing" and that big hit it was supposed to be.
I mean no one is even interested in trying them out in Apple stores.

 

[admob71]

Yeah, smaller is a market that definitely needs to be addressed more.

My oldest daughter uses Android, and we keep trying to find a watch that fits her and her needs.

I bought an Omate Lutetia (originally a Kickstarter project, using the same kind of flat-tire round display as in the Moto 360, but smaller) in an attempt to find something more feminine for her, but it was stolen in the mail and I never got a replacement.

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Apple is smart to make a smaller model, and I think more manufacturers should do so.

(On the iOS side of things, I gave my iPhone-loving daughter-in-law a 38mm Apple Watch, but she always has her iPhone in her hand, and she always replies to every notification, so it turned out that she had no use for the watch! Oh well.)

Why do all teenage girls carry their phones in their hands all the time, regardless of what else they are carrying? Lol

 

[fabio.lordelo]

Many of the first clocks were square because they were on building towers or in chunky boxes. Their cases later went round so they could fit nicer into pockets and on top of bare skin.

As for having "old" designs on one's wrist, one could likewise argue that the main reason to have a rectangular smartwatch, is because it's a skeuomorphic representation of old green screen computer terminals that could only display blocked text, which themselves derived from block printing

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Perhaps this doesn't apply to you, but I've come to suspect that many people who are against round watches, are people who cannot read an analog clock face. It's amazing how many younger (under 50) people I've run into like that. Naturally they prefer digital clocks.

I think Apple went with the square design not because it could display more information, as in text messages etc, like most people assume. I think they made that decision because of the complications and how they can fit around the analog watchspace. Having a round design would considerably limit the space for complications in analog watchfaces and, as complications were a big part of watchOS since the beginning, I can understand their reasoning.

I always use analog watchfaces on the Apple Watch, I just find the digital ones ugly.

 

[fabio.lordelo]

Rotate it and it cycles through the interface, works a treat on my s2.
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There is so much wrong with this I don't even know where to start. Lol , and I'm not talking about opinions, .. word of advice, if you are going to slag off a product at least make sure you know what operating system it uses... lol

Have a good day sir...
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Erm.. the most complicated watch OS on the market... lol

Read every review, bar none do they agree the tizen OS is the easiest most intuitive watch OS released so far..

In fact, most reviews say the pebble OS is the most intuitive one.

 

[fabio.lordelo]

Not really..no..infact majority here are liking Gear S3s design.and it's well known how ugly Apple watch is...big chunky bulky,square.ughh

Really?! Stop with the fanboyism and the hate. Both samrtwatches are beautiful. Most people and reviewers (and users) agree that the Apple Watch is very nice looking and the finish is great, so no need to diminish one product to emphasize another's qualities.

It's funny reading you saying the Apple Watch is bulky while you defend the Gear S3.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

How come the only faces you ever see in these promotional shots are skeuomorphic analog watch faces (that never look like the device IRL)? The promo shots always make these watches look nicer than they are IRL.

Here's a Huawei promotional shot vs the watch IRL:

And here's what it looks like without an analog watch face:

The second pic is showing a different watch face. Plenty of anolog watch faces look very realistic, some others don't.
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Why do all teenage girls carry their phones in their hands all the time, regardless of what else they are carrying? Lol

Cause a selfie can happen at any moment. They must be ready at all times.

 

[Mac 128]

The second pic is showing a different watch face. Plenty of anolog watch faces look very realistic, some others don't.

She knows what she's doing. Usually she posts an overexposed picture of the watch so that the watch face is blown out by light, to "prove" her point -- that round smart watches are ugly and inferior, especially non-Apple ones. This was a rather conservative effort on her part, probably because she's been called on it so many times.

Here's an equally troll-ish photo, showing the Watch "IRL", proving once again that there's almost always a way to prove one's point on the internet no matter if it's valid or not:

 

[kdarling]

But does it explode?

You mean like how the Apple Watch's battery can heat up while charging, and melt/push the cheaply glued back off the watch case?

The Apple Watch made a mistake by calling it a watch and getting anal retentives all bent out of shape it's not really a watch, it's much more. It's a wearable computer. Who puts a round screen on a computer other than radar scope? ...
Design rule number one. Form follows function. The gear 3 looks like a gimmick. Looks tacky. It's the equivalent of vinyl wood paneling. Why???

Likewise, why put a rotating watch crown on a wearable computer (especially a crown that collects dirt and has to be washed), or sell traditionally watch-centric bands like the Classic or Milanese?

Or have your main designer drone on and on about studying horological homages. And even make a pompous industrial video showing how cases are made... in the exact same way that millions of other Chinese watch cases are made?

Answer: because Apple knew no one would buy their geeky shaped device if they called it a wearable computer, that's why

I think Apple went with the square design not because it could display more information, as in text messages etc, like most people assume.

I think it's obvious why they went with that shape. It's because J. Ive has always had success with it and didn't want to take chances.

I think they made that decision because of the complications and how they can fit around the analog watchspace. Having a round design would considerably limit the space for complications in analog watchfaces ...

Complications have traditionally been inside round watchfaces, and believe me, there's plenty of room for them. For example, here's one of my favorite round Android Wear faces, the Ranger:

It has:

1. time, including seconds
2. 24 hour time indicator,
3. weather forecast,
4. temperature,
5. date,
6. watch and phone battery levels,
7. compass, and
8. how far you've walked today.

Is that enough complications? Other faces add even more, like timers and alarms.

 

[Rogifan]

The second pic is showing a different watch face. Plenty of anolog watch faces look very realistic, some others don't.

Might not be the same watch face; doesn't matter. The PR shots are rendered to look like a mechanical watch but that's not what these watches look like IRL.

 

[fabio.lordelo]

I think it's obvious why they went with that shape. It's because J. Ive has always had success with it and didn't want to take chances.

You're so full of yourself with these statements... Now J. Ive, who is recognized by many as a great designer, and who has designed many different products besides the iPhone, decided to go with a square shape for the Apple Wayne because he didn't want to take chances?! Right, that was certainly it, this decision didn't take into account many different things that you and I can't have an idea of. Okay.

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Complications have traditionally been inside round watchfaces, and believe me, there's plenty of room for them. For example, here's one of my favorite round Android Wear faces, the Ranger:

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It has:

1. time, including seconds
2. 24 hour time indicator,
3. weather forecast,
4. temperature,
5. date,
6. watch and phone battery levels,
7. compass, and
8. how far you've walked today.

Is that enough complications? Other faces add even more, like timers and alarms.

I really think complications don't work so well inside, the music complication that sits under the analog, for example, is very useful, displaying the name of the song, that wouldn't be possible with a round design, or it'd look odd.

 

[fabio.lordelo]

Might not be the same watch face; doesn't matter. The PR shots are rendered to look like a mechanical watch but that's not what these watches look like IRL.

Yeah, I really don't like the way they render these promo images to make the watches look like mechanical ones because they will never look like that in real life. They give the watchfaces a sense of depth that is present in the actual faces.