Higher density sensors without better quality optics is pointless.
And how much storage is needed for 200 Mpix photos?
And how much storage is needed for 200 Mpix photos?
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Samsung's Galaxy S23 Ultra With 200MP Camera Rumored to Launch Months After iPhone 14 Pro With 48MP Camera
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They could put a 900-megapixel camera in it for all I care. Samsung is still a cheap, emulation in my mind. Samsung can dazzle the underclass with its endless gimmicks and attempts at one-ups-man-ship. But when it comes to hardware/software integration, security, privacy and value, iPhone is my ride or die. I'm rolling with iPhone until the wheels fall off.
There is. Grain (bigger sensor/moar light = less grain), sharpness (better glass = better focus), contrast, color fidelity and so on. Lots of metrics to judge a camera's capabilities. Those are more difficult to quanitify as it's mostly subjective. Pixel count is empirical. You can count pixels. The old body count syndrome.
My ancient 20D (8MP) produces much better pictures than any phone camera I've used. It's more pronounced if you pixel peep. I'm not a measurebator, so I don't pixel peep. But I do print out pictures. The print quality from my APS size sensor is far superior to the tiny phone camera. If y'all just posting on websites or looking at stuff on a computer, large sensors doesn't matter much. When you print, [sensor] size does matter.
Yeah, unfortunately since the beginning of digital photography it's always been a numbers game. Megapixels & ISO speed (really just gain) are the most marketed for sure. When a camera maker boasts 1 million ISO speed (or some other obserd number) and then you see the result of turning the gain up that high, it's awful....
Quite a pointless comparison.
These are smartphones so why don't you compare smartphones? For example the Mi 11 Ultra vs Pixel 6 Pro vs S22 Ultra vs Iphone 13 Pro Max.
You'll see that the iphone's 12mp sensor is losing in quite a few scenarios, especially details both in good and low light.
Samsung had a really good/competitive camera division at one point and they design camera sensors so I would say they know quite a bit about photography.
Their new 200MP sensor won't just be a current camera sensors with more mega pixels, it will be a completely new sensor, new technologies.
Of course it is they have to find out what Apple is doing so they can copy it.
Glad to see you speak for the entire photographic world!
Please explain to me exactly how does having the world stop at 12MP matter. I want to hear your explanation.
It is the exact right analogy. Whip it out and start the measuring contest. Sheriff Brody to Samsung: "You're gonna need a bigger boat."
A top of the line sensor with a higher megapixel count does lead to better pictures.
This won't be a midrange or low end camera sensor that only has a high mega pixel count for bragging rights, it will be top of the food chain in terms of smartphone camera sensors. It will have a lot going for it, not just the mega pixel count.
Well, they do mean something, but there's a point of diminishing returns and it's well below 200MP for a sensor of this size.
My guess is they will be doing some kind of processing at the capture level similar to pixel binning.
Below is the MacRumors article talking about iPhone 14 Pro sensor size. Along with the sensor size increase, there will be an increase in camera bump size.
Kuo: iPhone 14 Pro's Larger Camera Bump Due to New 48MP Camera System
The increased size of the iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max's rear camera array is due to all-new 48-megapixel Wide camera systems, according...
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Kuo said that "the main reason for the larger and more prominent camera bump" is due to "upgrading the rear camera to 48MP." He added that the diagonal length of the iPhone's contact image sensor (CIS) is set to increase by to 25 to 35 percent with the jump to 48MP. Likewise, the height of the camera's lens system will increase by five to ten percent.
Hmmm... I was considering getting the iPhone 14 Max for the wife, but I was just reminded that it looks like that one won't be getting the updated camera.
To get the updated sensor, it would be the iPhone 14 Pro Max.Mind you, even the iPhone 14 Max would be a huge improvement over her iPhone XR so I'll probably still stick with the 14 Max over the 14 Pro Max for her, for cost reasons.
I have a Canon 20D (8.2 MP) and the low light image quality just isn't very good. My 7D (18 MP) is noticeably better, but neither are actually good by 2022 standards. Honestly I get better low light images out of my iPhone 12 Pro Max (in some situations), partially due to computational photography. You lose a lot of detail on the iPhone, but it's not saddled with all that noise present in the 20D and 7D low light images. However, both the 20D and 7D are ancient. The 20D came out in 2004 and the 7D came out in 2009.
If you use your dSLR a lot then you might want to consider upgrading from your 20D. The current dSLRs are VASTLY superior to that 20D. Completely different league.
There's absolutely no point in a 200MP phone camera other than to make it look good on a spec sheet. What you end up with is smaller pixels with higher quantization error and a crap load of processing (averaging, noise reduction and sharpening) required to get a usable image out of it.
12MP is about right for the sensor size constraints. It has good dynamic range and is manageable. It's fine for online and prints well up to 8x10 which is good enough for 99% of the userbase.
If there's anything they need to invest in, it's providing a decent non digital zoom rather than having several prime lens camera elements splattered all over the back of the damn things and then trying to fill the gaps with digital zoom.
12MP is about right for the sensor size constraints. It has good dynamic range and is manageable. It's fine for online and prints well up to 8x10 which is good enough for 99% of the userbase.
If there's anything they need to invest in, it's providing a decent non digital zoom rather than having several prime lens camera elements splattered all over the back of the damn things and then trying to fill the gaps with digital zoom.
Maybe its me, but the older I get the less clarity I want. 🥲
I dont need to see every pore on my skin. My iPhone 6 front camera was perfect. It was my face without the extreme detail. 😂
I dont need to see every pore on my skin. My iPhone 6 front camera was perfect. It was my face without the extreme detail. 😂
I'm a bit disappointed that we, consumers, are still like this. With TVs, how many pixels, contrast ratio? Phones... is the case metal, how many MP is the camera? It didn't seem that long ago when they were making irons with more holes b/c marketing found out people preferred irons with more holes even though your clothing will be just as ironed otherwise.
On a related note, how the next gen iPHone would be twice as fast, but the current one is already fast enough
Interestingly, the iPhone 14 and 14 Max are rumoured to get the same A15 SoC as current models.On a related note, how the next gen iPHone would be twice as fast, but the current one is already fast enough
The rumour is that only the 14 Pro and 14 Pro Max will get the new A16 SoC.
The pixel picture only look good on that device. It’s why professional photographers and even film makers have projects shot only using iPhones. That is not happening on those other devices for a reason.
It's not Apple, so chances are storage expansion options for this thing might actually exist and be reasonably priced.
And Tim Apple appreciates your loyalty. Always easy to please a customer that never considers alternatives.