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The Apple Defense Force can be a quite a powerful and scary thing sometimes.

I constantly get accused of being a troll for some of my opinions about Apple products, even though I own and use them on a daily basis.

I just don't see a point in coddling Apple and making excuses for them when they make a flawed product or a bad decision. I want them to create better products, and pointing out their mistakes is better than ignoring them.

And there is one of the biggest reasons I get 'confused' when people label others trolls because they want/expect Apple to do better. Some are immediately dismissed, mocked or doubted that they use Apple products.

I would argue that Apple users are exactly the people who should be speaking up if they are dissatisfied or have suggestions on improvements. Of course forums aren't really the place to invoke change - the better way is to submit feedback to Apple. But I digress...
 
The thinnes makes the phone more appealing and beautiful so you use it and enjoy it more.

I know Jonny Ive said that, but it's BS. I use my phone just as much when it has a case on it (making it "thicker") as I do when I'm not using a case (and it's at its natural "thinness").
 
It's too bad that the mainstream media likely won't even report on this. Stories were everywhere about the iPhone 6 Plus bending (even my small town local news covered it) but nobody really cares about Samsung news so the general public will likely never even hear about this.

The only reason I care is because I still get people from time to time who see my iPhone 6 Plus and ask "has it bent yet?" or "aren't you worried about it bending?":rolleyes:

Well, there's an old Hollywood saying, "There's no such thing as bad publicity." For Apple fans, the fact that Samsung gets less press is a good thing, whether it's good press, or bad. All the Bendgate ads and PR from the competition did was sell more iPhones - they reinforced the idea that iPhones are the standard against which all else is measured (you don't see many HTC, Motorola, or Samsung ads that call-out HTC, Motorola, or Samsung).

For that matter, in terms of profitability, it really doesn't matter how many (or few) $17,000 Apple Watches are sold. The fact that they exist has generated a billion dollars worth of free advertising/buzz.

I suspect one reason Apple backed down from suing Samsung was that it was generating too much publicity for Samsung. As my mom might have said, "Just ignore them, and they'll go away."

Before John Scully came to Apple, he ran Pepsico. Those were the days of The Pepsi Challenge. The message was, Pepsi tastes better than Coke. In the end, both Pepsi and Coke gained market share. The real losers were brands like RC Cola, whose names were never mentioned. Back in the day, one of the smaller brands (it might have been RC) ran a campaign along the lines of, "Our product tastes great, and it's cheaper than [bleep] and [bleep-bleep]!" All that bleepin' did was get folks to think about what names were being bleeped-out.
 
And there is one of the biggest reasons I get 'confused' when people label others trolls because they want/expect Apple to do better. Some are immediately dismissed, mocked or doubted that they use Apple products.

I would argue that Apple users are exactly the people who should be speaking up if they are dissatisfied or have suggestions on improvements. Of course forums aren't really the place to invoke change - the better way is to submit feedback to Apple. But I digress...

To some here, if you say anything negative about Apple, you are a troll or hater. Some must defend Apple no matter what.
 
That's not the issue actually. Unlike Samsung about their S6, Apple never stated the 6 Plus would not bend. Samsung is a out and out Liar.

Please remind me what Steve Job’s said about small tablets, large phones and netbooks. Then read your comment again.
 
Don't forget: Bendgate wasn't a real thing.

So it's probably not a real thing for these phones either.
 
Please remind me what Steve Job’s said about small tablets, large phones and netbooks. Then read your comment again.

Also - did Samsung say that about a previous version of the phone, or the S6?

Regardless - all that matters is that if it is an issue for someone, that they can get their phone exchanged (easily). Everything else is just noise.
 
It's not a realistic problem for any phone. if you work outdoors in harsh conditions where this could occur then use an appropriate case or a more rugged device.

Think hard hat vs baseball cap.
 
#Crackgate?

But in all seriousness, it's funny to me that the things they poked fun at Apple about they're doing in their new flagships. Storage, the "wallhugger" campaign, the "bendgate" ****-talking...

I don't normally get involved in nor care about this whole Samsung copying Apple thing, but I agree with this point. That wallhugging promo really struck a chrord with me, so to now not have a removable battery is embarrassing for them.

I didn't see a bending version, but if true, Samsung could find all this really comes back and bites them.

For everything I don't like about Apple, I admire them for having a plan and sticking to it, regardless of what other manufacturers are up to (the MacBook is a case in point).
 
Okay...

Does anyone else notice how dumb this test is? The center wasn't even the bending point on the iPhone. Every phone with this cheap, 'premium', construction will bend when pressure like that is applied to the center.

However, the iPhone bent under normal pressure at the weakest point near the volume buttons. That was the ordeal....that was bend-gate. Just shows people are wanting to get on the attack bandwagon, since they were really embarrassed last time around.

Now, I'm not arguing that the Samsung isn't a direct copy of the iPhone 6; even with the fact they "reduced features by 40%". So they did make a much simpler phone to compete with the simple and already outdated iPhone 6. And after using one, it definitely seems like a direct copy of the iphone. Both phones are pretty silly at their price point; but this bend gate isn't a clean comparison at all, as it doesn't even address the issue.
 
To some here, if you say anything negative about Apple, you are a troll or hater. Some must defend Apple no matter what.

Only if about 95% or more of the things you say are negative, and you consistently argue and nitpick at people saying positive things about Apple while never calling out those who say negative things.

That's what makes someone a troll, hater, or sometimes both.
 
Let's just quote Samsung from their launch event:

"The Samsung Galaxy S6 gold model shouldn't bend when a user places in a back pocket and sits down, as certain other smartphones do."​

They are really setting themselves up for this, amazing. After that it's pretty much inevitable that someone will try to bend it. So they better be sure it really lives up to the claim.

I'm not a fan of anyone, though I feel for the test to be comparative, they should of used the Galaxy 6 and not the 6 Edge.

Why? They made a claim that the iPhone bent to easily, and now they make a phone that is as easy to bend. So to Samsung's own standards, the 6 Edge bends too easily.

Since the iPhone didn't really bend, I would guess that this is a non issue.

Samsung, claimed that it did though.
 
Only if about 95% or more of the things you say are negative, and you consistently argue and nitpick at people saying positive things about Apple while never calling out those who say negative things.

That's what makes someone a troll, hater, or sometimes both.

So that's the definition! I couldn't find it in TOS.
 
Doubt it. For a few reasons. Apple is held to higher standards. That's the double edged sword since both the media and Apple themselves have positioning their brand and products that way. When you speak of fine craftsmanship, etc well....

The second reason is because this is now "older" news. Samsung benefits much like a younger sibling does when a rule is broken. Apple got the brunt of the "punishment" - but now that another phone does it - it will be noted and listed as a "these do too."

My feeling is that some fringe of "trollers" on the internet delight in pushing Apple users buttons (because Apple is high profile and you'll get a lot of attention that way, any high profile company or cause can be a target), even the media often does that, because anything with Apple in the title is Click bait. Often titles about Apple news are grossly sensationalized compared to the actual content of the article (if the article has been rewritten, the article itself is distorted and you have to go to the original source to find out what's going on).

Actually, the fact people care so little about Samsung's foibles is in fact bad news for Samsung; that means they're not worth it to Clickbait artists and button pushers :).
 
One could say: the s6 is really strong. It doesn't have the external structural strength because at the sides it has more glass than the iPhone. The iPhone sides are stronger because of more aluminium. Of course the glass will break earlier.

*shots fired*
 
I wonder if The Verge will run article after article about the Smasung phone bending as they did the iPhone bending?

Not one, yet.
 
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