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Samsung's 'Infringe First and Stall as Long as Possible' Strategies Are Nothing New
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The jury are supposed to make a decision with what was shown in court, including that misleading picture. Judges don't have the final say, the jury does.
It works for the first part of the line. My point wasn't to attack him. I just really really hate stereotypes. In the case of Samsung, they have subsidiaries in different countries that likely employ a wide range of races. Even at their corporate HQ, I doubt everyone adheres to the aforementioned stereotype. What I really hate is the tendency to extrapolate perceived negative behavior across a given race or nationality because it fits their preconceived notions. The entire statement says more about him than anyone else.
Ditto, at the end, the money you spend goes to an investor. No philosophical thoughts needed.
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Well said, I really felt offended by him being someone from Korean descent. As an artist myself, I do not condone stealing of any kind. I even buy all my medias.
Samsung has been doing this for a while like I've been saying all along. I'm glad someone finally posted an article about it.
From a business standpoint it's not a bad strategy. By the time legal action is finally done, Samsung is already a major player in the given market and it no longer matters. Like right now they owe Apple $1 billion but copying the iPhone has made that $1 billion investment well worth it considering how much revenue they now generate.
It's a good strategy when you're not good at creating your own ideas. Just shady as hell. I don't buy their products anyway. Oh well.
From a business standpoint it's not a bad strategy. By the time legal action is finally done, Samsung is already a major player in the given market and it no longer matters. Like right now they owe Apple $1 billion but copying the iPhone has made that $1 billion investment well worth it considering how much revenue they now generate.
It's a good strategy when you're not good at creating your own ideas. Just shady as hell. I don't buy their products anyway. Oh well.
Progress should be made by trying to better what someone else has done.."inspiration" as someone else put it.
Have you ever had anything stolen? Would you be OK if someone stole your idea? Somehow, I think you and everyone else that defends blatant copying, would be raising hell.
Can someone explain in clear terms why the only defense people have of Samsung in this thread is "Oh yeah, well Apple did it too!"
Deflecting never works, and frankly just makes you look even more guilty!
Anyone, whether its Apple or Samsung or Google, that blatantly copies should be punished. Samsung blatantly copied, and deserves what they got. Whether Apple did it also is irrelevant. They got punished for what they did too.
Get a grip, people. It's ok for you to admit that Samsung is a thief. Stop trying to deflect from that fact.
Deflecting never works, and frankly just makes you look even more guilty!
Anyone, whether its Apple or Samsung or Google, that blatantly copies should be punished. Samsung blatantly copied, and deserves what they got. Whether Apple did it also is irrelevant. They got punished for what they did too.
Get a grip, people. It's ok for you to admit that Samsung is a thief. Stop trying to deflect from that fact.
Woohoo dear oh dear Mac Rumours. Is it coming up to your end of year tax bill or something? Or someone fancy a new car?
Anyway, in the interest of fairness I'll just repost these here from the other thread still on your front page, and lets also not forget how Apple has been entangled in the price fixing of ebooks.
Or perhaps we should talk about how Apple buyed it's way to have it's own SIM card standard.
Anyway:
Not saying Samsung is gleaming, the S1 and S2 copied the iPhone.
Anyway, in the interest of fairness I'll just repost these here from the other thread still on your front page, and lets also not forget how Apple has been entangled in the price fixing of ebooks.
Or perhaps we should talk about how Apple buyed it's way to have it's own SIM card standard.
Anyway:
Not saying Samsung is gleaming, the S1 and S2 copied the iPhone.
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It's all part of the game of big business, and crying about it like a team of babies is also part of that game.
Ever watch association football, and roll your eyes at the crying baby act during a foul or faked foul? Well, this is the same thing, corporate style. Waaaah, I got an owie! Buy me an ice cream, or I'll cry even longer!
Ever watch association football, and roll your eyes at the crying baby act during a foul or faked foul? Well, this is the same thing, corporate style. Waaaah, I got an owie! Buy me an ice cream, or I'll cry even longer!
So much irrational hate here for Samsung here. Apple is the unethical slimy cheapskate here.
Slide to unlock was copied from neonode and has been thrown out from courts around the world. Universal search has been around for ages.
Only in the US that slimy Apple can get patents of prior art and use it to sue and stifle competition. Apple made use of the sentiment of a mainly bias jury to win its case.
Apple innovation? That's the biggest b.s. If Apple is so innovative maybe it should have other patents to sue instead of using stolen prior art.
Apple don't even have the capability to make the hardware components of the phone. Samsung does. Apple innovation is repackage existing knowledge and technologies and using the kangaroo US patent office to hijack prior innovations.
Slide to unlock was copied from neonode and has been thrown out from courts around the world. Universal search has been around for ages.
Only in the US that slimy Apple can get patents of prior art and use it to sue and stifle competition. Apple made use of the sentiment of a mainly bias jury to win its case.
Apple innovation? That's the biggest b.s. If Apple is so innovative maybe it should have other patents to sue instead of using stolen prior art.
Apple don't even have the capability to make the hardware components of the phone. Samsung does. Apple innovation is repackage existing knowledge and technologies and using the kangaroo US patent office to hijack prior innovations.
Are you sure that it is OK to put a company that dominates a country, buries everyone that even mentions something negative about them, has people dying in their manufacturing plants, has their CEO (or the chairman?) needing presencial forgiveness to not go to jail (3 times?), has a huge history of illegal behavior and everything else we know on the same level as Apple and others?
That's either being hypocrite or ignorant about the matter. Samsung is perhaps the most corrupt company on the planet AND:
They do not sell the best products on any area. Just marketing and obscene spending on advertising.
HobeSoundDarryl
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You must be new around here. Don't you know that you can't show facts to back up statements unless those statements are pro-Apple? If you use facts to back up statements against Apple, you're only going to incite the crowd. Somebody will soon try calling you a troll while several other people who might see the facts and realize that Apple wasn't first will just try to change the subject to something irrelevant to the topic at hand: "but who has the most profitable phone?" or "$1XX Billion dollars in the bank says otherwise" and so on.
The correct thing to do is be subjective and rah-rah Apple. Don't pretend anyone else can invent anything good. Only Apple can invent. Don't show examples of prior products; in "our" minds history has already been re-written (Apple invented the smart phone, Apple invented the touch screen, etc). To those with some objectivity left, you might get a "but Apple was the first to get it right" but that's about the best you can hope for.
The sentiment is always 100% Apple is right. Even in this where both parties were found to have infringed on each other, we'll only talk about Samsung as being at fault… already spinning the Apple infringement as accidental.
Lastly, to those pledging to never buy anything made by Samsung tech again, apparently, you won't be buying new Apple products. I doubt there's any tech from Apple that doesn't have something made by Samsung inside.
Exactly how I feel. I own zero Samsung products and will keep it that way indefinitely.
On the note of people dying in factories, you seem to have forgotten the stories of Foxconn, which makes iDevices and Apple computers, about the workers dying?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/05/woman-nearly-died-making-ipad
http://www.ibtimes.com/foxconn-suic...actory-leap-dormitory-buildings-one-confirmed
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2419223,00.asp
Yup. I've actually read a few good articles on AI. I rarely ever visit them, but there have been a couple of times I've come across something interesting over there.
Reading your signature, no you do NOT! You MOST definitely own several Samsung devices, fact!
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Wow. I own several Samsung products and several Apple products. Both manufacturers makes GREAT, highly-rated stuff. Interestingly, open up most Samsung hardware and you won't find any components made by Apple inside. But open up Apple hardware and you almost certainly will find part(s) made by Samsung. Cruise around threads even on this site and you'll see some of the people so vocal about the "thief" posting how they "hope they got the one with the Samsung screen" and similar.
If you're going to do what you said above, you're not buying any new Apple hardware indefinitely. Apple may have sued them (and vice versa) but they still buy a lot of the parts that make Apple stuff work from that very same "thief".
shameless Apple, unworthy Samsung...
For everyone's reference, it was Pablo Picasso, not Steve Jobs, that is credited with the quote “good artists copy, great artists steal.”, and SJ even states that in this short video clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU
But we all should know, most especially any self-respecting artist/writer, that morally it's not right to simply “plagiarize” another's work and/or creations.
Rather, the sentiment that Picasso is credited with was actually echoing a statement made in 1892 by W. H. Davenport Adams who said “That great poets imitate and improve, whereas small ones steal and spoil.” which was re-quoted a number of times, slightly changing each time until 1986 when Igor Stravinsky was credited with this version: “Lesser artists borrow; great artists steal.”
More insight into that quotes' evolution can be read here.
What's the overall point in all this you ask? The general sentiment behind the original quote is that “imitation” was commendable, but “to steal” was unworthy. How that is relevant to our time here today is that Apple's desire to expand on the ideas that came into form before it debut it's own products is commendable in spirit, but Samsung's blatant plagiarism, with no appreciable advancement in the products they're producing, is not nearly as worthy of the same praise, if at all.
For everyone's reference, it was Pablo Picasso, not Steve Jobs, that is credited with the quote “good artists copy, great artists steal.”, and SJ even states that in this short video clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU
But we all should know, most especially any self-respecting artist/writer, that morally it's not right to simply “plagiarize” another's work and/or creations.
Rather, the sentiment that Picasso is credited with was actually echoing a statement made in 1892 by W. H. Davenport Adams who said “That great poets imitate and improve, whereas small ones steal and spoil.” which was re-quoted a number of times, slightly changing each time until 1986 when Igor Stravinsky was credited with this version: “Lesser artists borrow; great artists steal.”
More insight into that quotes' evolution can be read here.
What's the overall point in all this you ask? The general sentiment behind the original quote is that “imitation” was commendable, but “to steal” was unworthy. How that is relevant to our time here today is that Apple's desire to expand on the ideas that came into form before it debut it's own products is commendable in spirit, but Samsung's blatant plagiarism, with no appreciable advancement in the products they're producing, is not nearly as worthy of the same praise, if at all.
Apple has nothing to do with that. Foxconn does.
Not only that, foxconn isn't an "idevice" maker. They make pretty much every gadget on the planet from every company, iDevices included.
And it is an well known fact that because of ignorant posts like yours, plants responsible for Apple products have higher standards than, say, Samsung plants.
And what was your point with that? I'm what way does that "attempt" at trolling or being obtuse puts Samsung on a better light?
You should be ashamed.
They copy more than almost anyone. It is in their DNA to simply lift whatever they want. Read the VF article. It shows it is habitual at a level unseen almost anywhere else.
I guess MR could have gone more with the internal corruption angle. When their own top internal lawyer leaves and exposes them and one of the most criminally corrupt companies in the world, it says something. Boldly copying outright is the least of their dirtiness.
Maybe it's a Korean company thing. Hyundais and Kias steal heavily from their German competitors.
Funny I haven't seen one person call kdarling a troll for what he posted. Seems you may be the one who's trying to incite the crowd. Or maybe you're projecting?
