I thought this issue had been laid to rest elsewhere on these forums that this is a long standing connector design, nothing to do with apple?
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Samsung's Lawyers Demand to See iPhone 5 and iPad 3
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I thought this issue had been laid to rest elsewhere on these forums that this is a long standing connector design, nothing to do with apple?
Regardless of the outcome of this, it could be a huge turning point for the way consumer goods are manufactured and sold.
Are we going to see competitors' lawyers being granted access to all similar products to avoid IP issues? This can only slow down products coming to market, will slow innovation and new design and ultimately, is to the detriment of consumers. Whatever happened to the 'race to market' and trying to get your IP and designs registered first? Where's the desire to move quickly?
FWIW, I don't believe that Apple should have been granted access to Sammy's designs - if they were that confident in breach, they would have sued immediately. Conversely, I REALLY hope Sammy aren't granted access to Apple's new devices.
Are we going to see competitors' lawyers being granted access to all similar products to avoid IP issues? This can only slow down products coming to market, will slow innovation and new design and ultimately, is to the detriment of consumers. Whatever happened to the 'race to market' and trying to get your IP and designs registered first? Where's the desire to move quickly?
FWIW, I don't believe that Apple should have been granted access to Sammy's designs - if they were that confident in breach, they would have sued immediately. Conversely, I REALLY hope Sammy aren't granted access to Apple's new devices.
Haha....good on Samsung. They have just as much right to view the competitors products as Apple does...i.e none!
As much as I am loving iPhones/iPads, I hope Samsung can do something to shake Apple up here...they have become complacent with iOS and dont seem to even be attempting to get up to the level of extendability that Samsung and other Android devices can do.
As much as I am loving iPhones/iPads, I hope Samsung can do something to shake Apple up here...they have become complacent with iOS and dont seem to even be attempting to get up to the level of extendability that Samsung and other Android devices can do.
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Such a request cannot be legal!! It's a complete pisstake, without merit and utterly ridiculous? On what grounds are they requesting to view Apple's current undertakings?
The audacity to say "Apple, give us your magical formula... Or else, damnit!"
Complete wank.
Such a request cannot be legal!! It's a complete pisstake, without merit and utterly ridiculous? On what grounds are they requesting to view Apple's current undertakings?
The audacity to say "Apple, give us your magical formula... Or else, damnit!"
Complete wank.
Mate, without Samsung, there would be no iPad screens and no SSDs in your MBAs.
They act like it, they probably believe it, and the CEO is quick to speak in a very condescending fashion to anyone that questions anything about Apple.
This is my one and ONLY complaint with Apple, the super arrogant attitude, their self centered screw everyone else culture that is pervasive throughout.
You know Apple did the same thing right? I'm sure Samsung's lawyers have a reason to make such a request. I don't get why people get so worked up about a lawsuit, it's not like the loser must leave the industry, they'll just pay the other one a bit of money.
Wait, so...
Samsung infringed patents, as such Apple wants to see Samsung's prototypes which have also been publicly announced and demo'ed -> makes sense; the part that has been attacked is thus getting some sort of advantage.
Samsung infringed patents, so it must see the future unannounced undemoed products -> so the attacked part also has to supply a rival with their guns?
Seriously, WTF. In that case I want to see Apple's, Samsung's, HTC's and LG's prototypes. I am producing a phone of my own and I do not want to risk violating any patents!
Samsung infringed patents, as such Apple wants to see Samsung's prototypes which have also been publicly announced and demo'ed -> makes sense; the part that has been attacked is thus getting some sort of advantage.
Samsung infringed patents, so it must see the future unannounced undemoed products -> so the attacked part also has to supply a rival with their guns?
Seriously, WTF. In that case I want to see Apple's, Samsung's, HTC's and LG's prototypes. I am producing a phone of my own and I do not want to risk violating any patents!
Well, I have seen and played with a GSII and personally I'm not impressed. Sure, the tech numbers are better than the iPhone (4) but it's performance is still pretty poor, it's nowhere near as smooth or stable as iOS.
One thing that disgusts me is the blatant resemblance TouchWiz has to iOS. you'd need to be near enough blind if you can't see how alike they are. If Apple loose out on hardware, fair enough; but Samsung are pretty skrewed when it comes down to the software.
On a side note, the reason why the GSII is outperforming the iPhone 4 is probably because teen kids are asking mummy and daddy for a new phone that's better than the 'old' phone they got at Christmas. Why do they go for the Samsung: its cheaper. I'll bet that 90% of those kids want an iPhone 4.
Actually they asked for the _final_ version... As long as apple says they haven't decided yet which prototype will be final, they wouldn't be lying...
Make that shamelessly ripped-off icons. The entire page layout is copied, the dock; 4*4 row of encapsulated icons; same page icon indicator in the same place (oh, my bad, it has number!); same round, red notification icons.
How could anyone not think that Apple are entitled to sue their asses? Fanboys. That's why.
I dont think you even understood whats going on here idiot... Samsung is not trying to copy them. They want to see the prototype for that reason and so they could avoid another patent lawsuit... It's actually really reasonable since apple likes to go on suing sprees..
http://thisismynext.com/2011/04/19/apple-sues-samsung-analysis/
Read that article. It explains the whole Samsung vs Apple case in great deal. And is relatively unbiased. Yes you heard right. Relatively unbiased. Pretty rare to see a relatively unbiased article these days on the interwebs.
Heck the articles on that site are so good (read unbiased) I'm bookmarking it. On this site the article authors actually look for signs that images are photoshopped before they post them. And actually say if they think the images are photoshopped. I've seen not one other site do this. So bravo to them.
Read that article. It explains the whole Samsung vs Apple case in great deal. And is relatively unbiased. Yes you heard right. Relatively unbiased. Pretty rare to see a relatively unbiased article these days on the interwebs.
Heck the articles on that site are so good (read unbiased) I'm bookmarking it. On this site the article authors actually look for signs that images are photoshopped before they post them. And actually say if they think the images are photoshopped. I've seen not one other site do this. So bravo to them.
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lol. This is going to fail epically. As if their lawyers think a judge would 't see straight through this.
lol. This is going to fail epically. As if their lawyers think a judge would 't see straight through this.
Hmm
I dont know why Apple care about this, they have the market in their hands. I dont see people queuing for samsung products.
Technology is always slightly similiar, i must admit, apple were the first with the screen icons etc, completely stolen by virtually everyone else.
I dont think there is a cat in hells chance apple are going to hand over final products to samsungs lawyers....not in a million years.
I dont know why Apple care about this, they have the market in their hands. I dont see people queuing for samsung products.
Technology is always slightly similiar, i must admit, apple were the first with the screen icons etc, completely stolen by virtually everyone else.
I dont think there is a cat in hells chance apple are going to hand over final products to samsungs lawyers....not in a million years.
You're not exactly painting a rosy picture here of Samsung. They sound pretty dodgy.
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You have to be kidding...
Samsung is so obviously stealing from Apple's iPhone design that just yesterday walking past a billboard, a Samsung Galaxy phone looked so much like an iPhone I was shocked that Apple didn't sue.
Point is that Samsung is now just getting pathetic here... in fact I dare to say most companies suing each other left and right are grossly pathetic. In many cases I agree and support Apple's lawsuits basted on their history and the amount of copies of their products cashing in on sometimes as simple as their name or logo. That I understand.
But try to look at it from a consumers point of view... who came first and with what. Then think, what does it really matter to you? Shouldn't Samsung and other companies really TRY to be better than Apple? Isn't that the point? When there is a boxing fight, the world champion needs to be defeated by the new guy, right? That's the point of the game.
So... why are we wasting valuable time, money and resources on things that inhibit innovators from being innovative.
Meaning... we could have had better things by now if companies wouldn't moan so much about petty incompetent things such as those illustrated in recent tech news.
Finally, if they would have spent all the time, money and energy in discovering a safer means of using Mobile phones instead of the deadly ones we all have in our pockets, the world would be a nicer and safer place...
That's just my opinion...
This is exactly what I am thinking... (Asian's have a long history of back-engenering western products). The world of counterfeit is at the very heart of Asia...
(Yes, you have to have been there before you can actually comment on just how bad it is).
And for the Asian people on MacRumors, I am not saying they don't make anything original, naturally they do... and they make some amazing things too... I'm not generalizing but these are the facts.
And I love Samsung TVs, in my opinion they are the best... but I once had a Samsung mobile and it was the worst I had.
Samsung is so obviously stealing from Apple's iPhone design that just yesterday walking past a billboard, a Samsung Galaxy phone looked so much like an iPhone I was shocked that Apple didn't sue.
Point is that Samsung is now just getting pathetic here... in fact I dare to say most companies suing each other left and right are grossly pathetic. In many cases I agree and support Apple's lawsuits basted on their history and the amount of copies of their products cashing in on sometimes as simple as their name or logo. That I understand.
But try to look at it from a consumers point of view... who came first and with what. Then think, what does it really matter to you? Shouldn't Samsung and other companies really TRY to be better than Apple? Isn't that the point? When there is a boxing fight, the world champion needs to be defeated by the new guy, right? That's the point of the game.
So... why are we wasting valuable time, money and resources on things that inhibit innovators from being innovative.
Meaning... we could have had better things by now if companies wouldn't moan so much about petty incompetent things such as those illustrated in recent tech news.
Finally, if they would have spent all the time, money and energy in discovering a safer means of using Mobile phones instead of the deadly ones we all have in our pockets, the world would be a nicer and safer place...
That's just my opinion...
This is exactly what I am thinking... (Asian's have a long history of back-engenering western products). The world of counterfeit is at the very heart of Asia...
(Yes, you have to have been there before you can actually comment on just how bad it is).
And for the Asian people on MacRumors, I am not saying they don't make anything original, naturally they do... and they make some amazing things too... I'm not generalizing but these are the facts.
And I love Samsung TVs, in my opinion they are the best... but I once had a Samsung mobile and it was the worst I had.
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