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Samsung's Lawyers Demand to See iPhone 5 and iPad 3

This is why Apple is suing Samsung...

Samsung even used a sunflower for their Gallery icon.

And why use a flower anyway? Samsung didn't even attempt to look for a better icon for Gallery... they just went ahead and used a sunflower like Apple. That's about as lazy as you can get!

So... tell me again why Apple whould show the iPhone 5 and iPad 3 to Samsung?

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Michael Scrip said:
This is why Apple is suing Samsung...

Samsung even used a sunflower for their Gallery icon.

And why use a flower anyway? Samsung didn't even attempt to look for a better icon for Gallery... they just went ahead and used a sunflower like Apple. That's about as lazy as you can get!

So... tell me again why Apple whould show the iPhone 5 and iPad 3 to Samsung?

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Why do the phones in your post look exactly the same size? they are not the same size. Very misleading. But even so, I can honestly say the Galaxy S does not look to be a copy of the iphone 3gs. But more importantly when you have the 2 phones in your hand they do not even feel the same. The Galaxy S is very obviously taller, wider, thinner and lighter. If feels completely different. Really now, if you only look at pictures, you're not getting the whole picture. A judge will be holding these two phones and using them, I honestly don't think they are as similar as people here want to believe. Phones and tablets are becoming like TVs, they all look similar these days, but it doesn't mean they are copies of each other. Again, I'm not saying one company is right in more ways than the other. Apple has every right to sue if it truly believes they have been copied.
 
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^^ The only defense you said was that the hardware was different. I suspect that there was no defense against the rest being similar because everything else looks a bit identical.
 
iJays said:
wanna bet that Apple will now drop the initial charges :p
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They can try but Apple has home field advantage here. Also, Apple can easily make the claim that the next generation devices are not complete since they have parallel developments where Steve announces the winner sometimes as a day prior to launch. That is an old old IBM trick a la Watson.
 
DanteMann said:
Why do the phones in your post look exactly the same size? they are not the same size. Very misleading.
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I didn't put those pictures together.

However... Samsung did create that promotional photo which bears a striking resemblance to the iPhone photo. Was that by accident? I seriously doubt that.

Come on, man... there are an infinite amount of ways you can photograph a phone... why does it look EXACTLY like the iPhone photo?

Apple is suing Samsung based on "look and feel"... from the icons, to box art, and other similarities.

Can Apple trademark that stuff? I dunno... I'm not a trademark attorney.

But if Apple asks Samsung to knock it off... should they?

DanteMann said:
A judge will be holding these two phones and using them, I honestly don't think they are as similar as people here want to believe.
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Again... it's not about holding the phones in your hand... it's about the look and feel of the products and packaging design.

Google image-search "Samsung Galaxy S" and see how many photos come up that look almost identical to the iPhone. That's no accident...
 
The lawyers are probably all iPhone/iPad owners and just requested that because they would love to brag to their friends that they saw the next gen devices, hehe.
 
I kept looking for the punchline. This can't be serious.

It's like someone accused of murder trying to kill one of the police in the interview room.

Talk about handing the case to Apple on a plate… No need to go any further with this. Samsung has demonstrated conclusively that they are utterly unable to grasp what they've done and what they're being accused of.

It's one thing to say to a company, 'You can't ask us to reveal designs, without revealing your designs to us'… unless you're being accused of stealing their designs in the first place. I'm flabbergasted.

This is a joke, right?
 
What a bunch of idiots.. They are so worried what Apple will make and do that they always have Apple's innovative design in mind when creating their own products it's just sickening. I bet Apple got a kick out of that and didn't even bother to comply..
 
Stupid lawyers

They are making them funny. How can you demand to see something which does not exist publicly (and also maybe private). Who said to you that Apple is producing those products??? You can not take someone to court before the crime. I think those lawyers haven't done their home works well when they were at school.
 
The point is, that no one seems to have considered is that companies have projects on the go for a long long time before public release.

Msoft are working on the next xbox, Sony is working on the next ps3 and Samsung will be working on a tablet with tegra 3 and a retina type display for a future device.

Say you are working now on this tegra 3 retina tablet for launch in 6 months time, which is not long at all or even say for launch around next spring.

You then release your tablet possibly just after apple release the ipad3 and everyone says, Samsung copied apple again, lawsuit time.

It's a tablet, it's an oblong thin shape with a touchscreen on one side, cameras and a computer inside running a low power operating system. How different can you make it?

Apple want to see Samsung prototypes fine, then Samsung need to see apple also otherwise they could be accused or copying the next model, if you don't know what the next iPad will be like how can you know now if yours will be almost the same or not?
 
Just be thankful apple didn't invent the motorcar. Otherwise they'd be claiming everyone else was copying them.

Metal body that you get inside a wheel at each corner, foot pedals to contol it, with a handle near you to put on a brake or perhaps change gear with. A circular controller to turn the front wheels.
An engine fitted at the front that runs on gasoline or diesel, flashing lights at each corner to show your direction a button you press to make the horn sound. Rubber blades that move across the screen to clear the water away.

Omg ripp off copycats.
 
Heijtink said:
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It's about the idea. If Apple made the case that they can prove it only or more obvious by unannounced Samsung products. Then Samsung can make the argument, for reason of defense, that they need to see Apple's future products.
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Except Apple asked for Samsung's publicly demoed hardware. Samsung is asking for Apple hardware which is rumoured to exist, and has NOT been seen publicly (I.e. Prototypes).

What samsung is asking for is a polar opposite to what Apple requested, and if you can't see that, you are way more blinkered than you think you are.
 
CFreymarc said:
They can try but Apple has home field advantage here. Also, Apple can easily make the claim that the next generation devices are not complete since they have parallel developments where Steve announces the winner sometimes as a day prior to launch. That is an old old IBM trick a la Watson.
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What are you talking about? How would it possibly be feasible to develop several entire handsets and marketing campaigns, only to abandon all but one the day before it is announced? They may use several different prototypes in the process of development but they do not pick one "a day prior to launch", they would settle on a final design, and then refine it further, ignoring the others.
 
GregA said:
I wonder when Apple will actually have a final commercial version of their next generation iPad?
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Haven't even seen a draft version of the next iPad yet, it's nothing more than speculation.
 
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Bigdaddyguido said:
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I don't understand samsungs reasoning at all. Apple feels samsungs products look conspicuosly like their own, and ask for copies of the prototypes for the infringing models to see if something is fishy (all the prototypes look like apple/competitor products, or, the prototoes suddenly shift in direction after apple releases their product to reflect apple's advances, etc.) if apple has a case, this could prove it, on the other hand, if apple doesn't have a case this would be a great way for sanding to prove it.

Instead, samsung demands prototypes of future apple devices under the apparent guise of not wanting to offend apple's lawyers when their next product releases. All it looks like, is their first reaction is to try and get a sneak peak at apple's products... to commit more infringement?


I don't see how apple's future products could possible effect the case about past products.
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They could be using a tactic that makes a lot of sense: scaring the prosecutor away. They know how secretive Apple is of their stuff. They might expect Apple to back off now.

But hey, who knows.
 
spraulin said:
This Apple vs Samsung feud is really getting quite childish.

I'm no fan of Apple's arrogance however if Samsung would want to stop being hypocritical they would just stop supplying parts to Apple.
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Stop supplying Apple, and get slapped with a much bigger, costly and more clear cut example of breach of contract suit?

I don't think even Samsung are that stupid. Plus it would hurt their supply chain reputation the world over, as they wouldn't exactly be reliable if they break the contract.

It wouldn't happen, trust me.
 
Michael Scrip said:
I didn't put those pictures together.

However... Samsung did create that promotional photo which bears a striking resemblance to the iPhone photo. Was that by accident? I seriously doubt that.

Come on, man... there are an infinite amount of ways you can photograph a phone... why does it look EXACTLY like the iPhone photo?

Apple is suing Samsung based on "look and feel"... from the icons, to box art, and other similarities.
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Don't forget the Apple-patented 30-pin dock connector that Samsung ripped off in it's entirety for the Galaxy Tab.
 
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