Samsung's New Galaxy S10+ vs. Apple's iPhone XS Max

[Tick410]

Maybe you should find computers and gadgets that you like. MS fan club and the android fan clubs at right now the hall. In the meantime, millions and millions of apple users enjoy and rely on Apple gear. They have a deserved reputation as one of the best gadget makers in the world.

Enjoy.

Working on getting promoted to that department. You have to sell Apple first before going to the final department. Which is PC sales. I'm a candidate for it. Learned alot about Apple and their devices and even their marketing.
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We can all agree that Apple will give us better phones (PPI, better sound, better camera(s), etc) in the not-too-distant future but I was reminded of something as I was doing some banking on my XS Max.

Security!!!

Folks, I agree, the new Samsung phones have a lot of new bells and whistles, no doubt, but it is still Android. The Android OS is rife with security issues. If you've never done banking or anything sensitive like that on your phone by all means buy what you like, but if you have, I would be very careful about being seduced by (the dark side, just kidding) the flash and pizzazz of Samsung or any other Android manufacturer. I know iOS is not perfect but they do a lot better job in the security realm and it's not even close.

Dude. Facetime Bug was a huge breach of security.
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I think you and I just have very different opinions about this stuff, which is fine. You have every right to choose what works best for you. iOS works best for you.

Let's agree to disagree.
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I disagree. When it comes to photo and video editing aswell as using the Adobe suite for graphic arts Macs are just the better choice. It's not about the raw processing power, it's about how easy it is to get things done, the little things that all add up to being more productive. I've worked in graphic prepress for over 20 years with extensive experience on both Mac and Pc so I do know a little on the subject.

Nope. It's about hardware. You can't deny facts and I'm not presenting opinions. I'm giving you facts. Heres the video which shows Adobe does not beat Windows because it prefers Mac OS.

 

[fourthtunz]

For me it would take a lot to change.
It's taken a long time to get my devices, media, and their implementation incorporated in my every day life.
Many have told me it's easy to convert and that many features of the iPhone are the same on the galaxy, but the galaxy allows for more customization. Not a big enough reason.

Both platforms are excellent depending on the user's needs and desires.

They are not the same but I guess it depends on what you want. Integration with Mac OS is superior.
I notice that my android friends don't have music on their phones and may not sync them with their pcs.
IOS apps are superior especially the music/synth apps with IOS superior audio subsystem..
Androids usually have the latest and greatest hardware but when it comes to actually doing something with the phone
Iphone wins.

 

[DNichter]

Working on getting promoted to that department. You have to sell Apple first before going to the final department. Which is PC sales. I'm a candidate for it. Learned alot about Apple and their devices and even their marketing.
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Dude. Facetime Bug was a huge breach of security.
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Let's agree to disagree.
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Nope. It's about hardware. You can't deny facts and I'm not presenting opinions. I'm giving you facts. Heres the video which shows Adobe does not beat Windows because it prefers Mac OS.

I meant “iOS works best for me”, not you haha. Yea we don’t have to agree on it, because it’s a preference. Different tools for different people and different tasks. Buy what you like.

 

[fourthtunz]

Little confused because I thought I had bookmarked MacRumors.com, yet there's an Android review along with a request to provide feedback from people who use it.
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The other requirement is that you not be laying down, have the phone in portrait mode, and have your contacts in if you wear contacts. When all the criteria are met, yes it is faster than Touch ID.

As far as accuracy, I have never had Touch ID fail to authenticate, ever. Face ID on the other hand fails a few times a week.

I was not impressed with face ID when I first got my XR but when you get into the settings it works quite well and I don't miss touch ID.

 

[torana355]

Nope. It's about hardware. You can't deny facts and I'm not presenting opinions. I'm giving you facts. Heres the video which shows Adobe does not beat Windows because it prefers Mac OS.

You are talking to someone who works on these things for a living, Adobe does not prefer OSX, OSX is just easier to work on due to little the things. Even the small things like being able to drag and drop a folder into an import window saves a lot of time. I can tell you from experience that your "facts" mean nothing in the real world and there is a reason OSX is the industry standard in Graphic Prepress.

 

[jinnyman]

I don't know why Galaxy S10 vs Max got to this point, but let me add to the on-going discussion.

If you are IT centric who knows how to problem solve and maintain windows, custom built PC blows any mac away. If you keep your workstation free of any stupid wrongdoings such as download torrent etc, custom PC provides most bang for the buck. Windows 10 is stable enough to merit as workstation. And mainitaining Windows 10 does not require any effort nowadays as long as you don't do stupid things. Actually for me, the only thing bothersome are forced updates requiring reboot. I see that mac OS is beneficial because for some people, not worrying about maintaining is huge plus.

I myself use a custom PC with 9900k and all sort of additional SSD & HD with nvidia Graphic card. Nothing beats the raw power of my desktop at the price I pay. And 64 gig ram was never been this cheap! And you know what? you can control cooling scheme of your system while reducing system noise! In fact, the cost benefit of custom pc is so enormous that I believe if you need a prosumer workstation, you must go Custom PC route, or otherwise, you have buch of extra money you can burn.

I still believe Mac portables are the best in the field, even with the keyboard failure. The portable could have been a perfect machine only if their keyboard was perfect.

 

[samplez]

Does Adobe really work better on Mac's? This sounds extremely false. Explained in the uploaded screenshot and do to the fact that I edit videos and am a Photographer that uses Photoshop on PC.

Adobe doesn't work better on Mac. The only reason I use a Mac OS for my work as a designer is mainly because of adobe file image previews that's much better than Windows. There's basically no other reason. And I would switch in a heartbeat if windows had them. All my other personal computers are pc, desktop and laptop at home

 

[majkom]

We as in Android Windows customers. Also they tend to grab something that Android releases and adds sprinkles to it and give it a different "Buzzword" and Apple fans praise it like it's new. Face ID has been in Android phones for years. That's just one of the features Apple was late to the party with.

Lol, whichandroid models were using tech like face id years before apple, please be specific I am far from being apple zealot, but please, give apple respect where apple deserves it

 

[Neebee]

iOS and iOS Apps require much much less RAM than Android so the benefit here is minimal if any.

Clearly more RAM wouldn't hurt but thinking that more RAM on an Android phone translates to a better experience is not necessarily true..

Yet, compare the same app on Android as you do on the iPhone, you will see the download size of the iOS app is often 2x greater than the Android version.

The shadiness of the iPhone being charged by the S10.

How far have we gotten, Samsung phones are charging iPhones and Apple still won’t include a fast charger in the box? Also, it would be nice to put the headphone adapter back in the box....took me a while to find one for the iPad Pro that actually worked and wasn’t overpriced (P.S. the S10 has a headphone jack).

Apple please put everything back in the box.

S10 series >>>> iPhone Xs series

Enough said.

I believe I may have an explanation. Having used a faster charger on my iPhone 7+, my battery "health" drops considerably compared to using the slower charger that comes with the iPhone. My guess is that Apple does not want us to you use a faster charger because it will wear our batteries sooner.
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Well, the prices are high, but I still feel like I am still getting good value.

Have you seen the prices of the One Plus series phones? I don't think anyone can honestly say they're getting value buying a flagship Samsung or iOS device unless they're deluding themselves.
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Samsung S10 plus is really great mobile!

Been to a retail shop and saw it! Display is like real stuff with Gorilla Glass 6 with retail mode with one of the great looking screens ever. I initially thought it was a dummy piece with paper sticker as display! Though the entire piece looks plastiky while holding, but they sort of feel like it is etched as a single piece slab than assembled in parts so much integrated feel!

Front camera looks amazingly clear in the retail shop lighting conditions. Didn't check the IDFPR and overall performance (EXYNOS Processor)...

I am not planning to buy this obviously as I just now got Note 9 which is equally good. But those coming from S6 and even S7 world, this is clear path for upgrade. Though it is certainly feel different than S9+ I wouldn't suggest upgrade unless you get 75% discount on S9+ price for exchange.

Certainly, S10 plus can't sustainable selling large quantities at this price range, in couple of months you can expect price correction which would probably allow you to poke around for possible purchase...

Why not consider Oppo?
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Choice is a good thing, but sadly Samsung decides to copy Apple on the Price, this is where they blatantly copy everything apple, but unlink Apple, copying the price IMHO is going to make them lose sales more than Apple has. (End of rant.)

Sadly, they're all pretty much copying Apple, especially in regards to price. If Apple can get away charging ridiculously high prices, other manufacturers think consumers will buy their products. Arguably, Google's pricing of their Pixel is inflated too.

 

[Ramchi]

I don't know why Galaxy S10 vs Max got to this point, but let me add to the on-going discussion.

If you are IT centric who knows how to problem solve and maintain windows, custom built PC blows any mac away. If you keep your workstation free of any stupid wrongdoings such as download torrent etc, custom PC provides most bang for the buck. Windows 10 is stable enough to merit as workstation. And mainitaining Windows 10 does not require any effort nowadays as long as you don't do stupid things. Actually for me, the only thing bothersome are forced updates requiring reboot. I see that mac OS is beneficial because for some people, not worrying about maintaining is huge plus.

I myself use a custom PC with 9900k and all sort of additional SSD & HD with nvidia Graphic card. Nothing beats the raw power of my desktop at the price I pay. And 64 gig ram was never been this cheap! And you know what? you can control cooling scheme of your system while reducing system noise! In fact, the cost benefit of custom pc is so enormous that I believe if you need a prosumer workstation, you must go Custom PC route, or otherwise, you have buch of extra money you can burn.

I still believe Mac portables are the best in the field, even with the keyboard failure. The portable could have been a perfect machine only if their keyboard was perfect.

While all these could be true, I enjoy two Windows 10 Ultra Portable i7 8th gen chipset with 512 SSD and 1 TB HDD, 16 GB RAM in both, 4K touchscreen display in both for $2300 for two...I don't have any problems, and my 5 years old 17 inch i7 MSI Dominator Pro still working rock solid with easy replacement of battery (just pull it and install it 2 seconds)....

I have my 2013-14 15inch MBP 16 GB RAM to my son .. Which is still looking great... You can blindly buy laptops at $1000.... You need to be really concerned only if you have to pay a lot more for laptops, keep justifying price etc...

 

[Lankyman]

Really, that old meme is kind of tired at this point.

Tired it may be but no less relevant for that. I suspect you find it to be an inconvenient truth.

 

[mi7chy]

iOS and iOS Apps require much much less RAM than Android so the benefit here is minimal if any.

Clearly more RAM wouldn't hurt but thinking that more RAM on an Android phone translates to a better experience is not necessarily true..

People need to stop repeating this misinformation especially if they're been around since the Commodore days. iOS on iPhone doesn't split screen multitask in the foreground and it also suspends/kills apps in the background compared to Android that can split screen multitask in the foreground and also actively run apps/services in the background. Only reason Apple cheapens out on DRAM and gimp iOS is to squeeze more profit.

 

[torana355]

People need to stop repeating this misinformation especially if they're been around since the Commodore days. iOS on iPhone doesn't split screen multitask in the foreground and it also suspends/kills apps in the background compared to Android that can split screen multitask in the foreground and also actively run apps/services in the background. Only reason Apple cheapens out on DRAM and gimp iOS is to squeeze more profit.

Yeah unfortunately people just repeat what they have heard someone else say without actually understanding how DRAM is handled on iOS vs Android. There is alot of misinformation on these forums that gets passed as fact.

 

[Shanghaichica]

People need to stop repeating this misinformation especially if they're been around since the Commodore days. iOS on iPhone doesn't split screen multitask in the foreground and it also suspends/kills apps in the background compared to Android that can split screen multitask in the foreground and also actively run apps/services in the background. Only reason Apple cheapens out on DRAM and gimp iOS is to squeeze more profit.

This is true. The iPhone doesn’t need more RAM because it’s not doing things like split screen apps and it’s aggressively killing apps in the background. Until Apple change the way iOS works there isn’t any point in adding any more ram.

 

[Lankyman]

Yeah unfortunately people just repeat what they have heard someone else say without actually understanding how DRAM is handled on iOS vs Android. There is a lot of misinformation on these forums that gets passed as fact.

The above statement pretty well sums up the Internet in general. Instead of being a force for good it has become a forum for misinformation from gossip mongers.

 

[DNichter]

Yet, compare the same app on Android as you do on the iPhone, you will see the download size of the iOS app is often 2x greater than the Android version.


I believe I may have an explanation. Having used a faster charger on my iPhone 7+, my battery "health" drops considerably compared to using the slower charger that comes with the iPhone. My guess is that Apple does not want us to you use a faster charger because it will wear our batteries sooner.
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Have you seen the prices of the One Plus series phones? I don't think anyone can honestly say they're getting value buying a flagship Samsung or iOS device unless they're deluding themselves.
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Why not consider Oppo?
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Sadly, they're all pretty much copying Apple, especially in regards to price. If Apple can get away charging ridiculously high prices, other manufacturers think consumers will buy their products. Arguably, Google's pricing of their Pixel is inflated too.

I would likely never buy an Android phone because it would be problematic for my whole ecosystem and end up costing me much more than it’s worth. I pay about $500 a year for my phone and it gives me quality hardware and a great combination of performance, security, privacy, ecosystem, apps, and support. I know I’m probably paying a bit more in the end, but I prefer iOS. I’m not too concerned with cost and I’m happy with the products I use.

 

[Lankyman]

I would likely never buy an Android phone because it would be problematic for my whole ecosystem .

I often see the above mentioned. What does it actually mean Please define why this would be problematic for you.

 

[ROGmaster]

The above statement pretty well sums up the Internet in general. Instead of being a force for good it has become a forum for misinformation from gossip mongers.

Very accurate.
Also I don't think I know another forum where so many people pass their own personal opinions(or things that they imagine in their heads) like straight up facts, or make so many absolute generalizations. The funny thing is when challenged they will defend these opinions to no end, even if there's no objective way for them to prove what they are claiming. Most of the time they can't even give a plausible, logical explanation.
As a sign of respect when I give a piece of information, state something I always try to make sure that it's correct so most of the time I do a quick search just to be sure.
It's sad that a lot of people here don't care for this type things.
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I believe I may have an explanation. Having used a faster charger on my iPhone 7+, my battery "health" drops considerably compared to using the slower charger that comes with the iPhone. My guess is that Apple does not want us to you use a faster charger because it will wear our batteries sooner.

I don't see how this is relevant.
The iphone 7+ was not designed to support fast charging(although it can charge faster with a fast charger) so of course it's not recommended to use a fast charger.
Most Android phones that work with fast chargers support this feature at a: OS/software, SOC/hardware/battery level.
Look at the OP6T, its charger was designed specifically to limit the negative effects fast charging has on batteries. Does a 7 or a 7+ have anything similar?

 

[DNichter]

I often see the above mentioned. What does it actually mean Please define why this would be problematic for you.

I put it out the other day as I was looking into the S10e. I would lose my Apple Watch, couldn’t Airplay to my HomePod or Apple TV, have issues with my HomeKit smarthome set up, lose iMessages and FaceTime, have to pay for all the apps I use on my phone again, lose AirDrop, I could probably go on about a number of things. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Android phones, it just isn’t worth the switch to me. For what? A few features and a cheaper cost? I am happy as is.

 

[torana355]

I put it out the other day as I was looking into the S10e. I would lose my Apple Watch, couldn’t Airplay to my HomePod or Apple TV, have issues with my HomeKit smarthome set up, lose iMessages and FaceTime, have to pay for all the apps I use on my phone again, lose AirDrop, I could probably go on about a number of things. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Android phones, it just isn’t worth the switch to me. For what? A few features and a cheaper cost? I am happy as is.

The way I see it everyone should use what works for them. The only thing that annoys me is when people spread misinformation about a competing brand to try to fit in with thier narrative. Android cops alot of flack on macrumors which isn't surprising since it's an Apple based forum but I think people should keep an open mind about products from other brands. The same should apply to Android fans as well.

 

[Lankyman]

I put it out the other day as I was looking into the S10e. I would lose my Apple Watch, couldn’t Airplay to my HomePod or Apple TV, have issues with my HomeKit smarthome set up, lose iMessages and FaceTime, have to pay for all the apps I use on my phone again, lose AirDrop, I could probably go on about a number of things. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Android phones, it just isn’t worth the switch to me. For what? A few features and a cheaper cost? I am happy as is.

That's one of the perils of putting to many of your eggs in one basket. I don't understand the iMessages Facetime thing though. Perhaps it's peculiar to the U.S. market? Most other countries make good use of WhatsApp Skype etc. for their messaging and video needs, or even Google's own 'messages' app.

Surely you could Airplay to your HomePod using your iPad?

 

[Abazigal]

I often see the above mentioned. What does it actually mean Please define why this would be problematic for you.

The iPhone is the glue that holds the entire apple ecosystem together.

For example, switching to an android phone means no iMessage, no Apple Watch, no continuity (the ability to make calls or send / receive SMSes from your other Apple devices), no airdrop, no syncing of photos via iCloud photo library, the loss of your iTunes content, just a few off the top of my head.

In addition, you would probably have to purchase your apps all over again. For me, I have easily spent several hundreds of dollars on paid apps which I share with my iPad, some of which have no ready equivalent on android. So it may not even be an issue of money, but that there are no alternatives available even if I am willing to spend the cash!

So basically, for someone who is entrenched in the Apple ecosystem, the android phone not only has to be better than the iPhone in terms of specs, it has to at least be comparable to the iPhone with the full integration of the Apple ecosystem behind it.

For some users, it's just not worth the hassle.

 

[I7guy]

Tired it may be but no less relevant for that. I suspect you find it to be an inconvenient truth.

You mean like android requires more ram and is not as efficient as iOS is an inconvenient truth?

 

[Abazigal]

That's one of the perils of putting to many of your eggs in one basket. I don't understand the iMessages Facetime thing though. Perhaps it's peculiar to the U.S. market? Most other countries make good use of WhatsApp Skype etc. for their messaging and video needs, or even Google's own 'messages' app.

Surely you could Airplay to your HomePod using your iPad?

There's two ways of looking at it.

Sure, by embracing the apple ecosystem in its entirety right now, I am making it very hard for me to switch away from the iPhone in the future.

However, it also means that during this time, I have enjoyed the full benefits of the apple ecosystem as well. For example, using a platform-agnostic music streaming service like Spotify means I can easily switch phones, but it also means losing out on features such as Siri integration on my iPhone and Apple Watch, or the ability to stream it from my Apple TV. Should I voluntarily limit my own enjoyment right now just to make switching less painful in the future? There's no easy answer, I feel.

 

[DNichter]

The way I see it everyone should use what works for them. The only thing that annoys me is when people spread misinformation about a competing brand to try to fit in with thier narrative. Android cops alot of flack on macrumors which isn't surprising since it's an Apple based forum but I think people should keep an open mind about products from other brands. The same should apply to Android fans as well.

I agree, but it absolutely happens both ways. People that prefer iOS seem to be questioned very often on this site.