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Samsung's New Galaxy S10+ vs. Apple's iPhone XS Max
One has a headphone jack and the other doesn't.

But seriously, I would have rathered a notch or a larger bezel at the top on the Galaxy. That dot I can't rub off the screen would bug the bejeezus out of me.
 
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Samsung phones are still an inferior rip off of the iPhone. I would be very surprised if they ever surpassed Apple.

I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 which I bought purely for watching movies on trips. Other than the blacks of the OLED display pretty much everything is worse than the iPad.

Where is the objectivity here? Apple has been surpassed already. It's not all about having an A12 processor, FaceID, and an OLED screen.

Samsung and Apple are both having to up their game because Xiaomi, Oppo/OnePlus, Huawei are fierce competitors. The Kirin processors aren't slouches either. The Mate 20 Pro is an incredible product. We have seen Apple have to resort to aggressive marketing, higher trade in values, and more promos to get their XR moving.

Anyways, you can't call a product a rip off over the other and then start jumping into tablets without losing some credibility. Companies borrow ideas from one another all the time. That's why you have to work on patenting IPs that can be patented because that could be your product differentiation and unique value proposition.

As for the iPad, we all know that iPads are better products for the lower end price point. The $250 prices BF saw for the 2018 iPad were quite incredible, especially with an A10 processor and Apple Pencil support. How will Samsung compete with that type of value? They probably can't.

When you start getting into the iPad Pro 2018 prices, that's where iPads show their weaknesses. At those price points, Surface products feel so much more incentivizing due to an x86 software experience. You can do more with a Surface Pro 6 over the 2018 iPP.

Back to phones now, Samsung has surpassed Apple's multi-tasking eons ago. They had split-screen apps since the GS3, which came out in 2012. Google added split-screen apps later in like Oreo I believe.
 
iOS and iOS Apps require much much less RAM than Android so the benefit here is minimal if any.

Clearly more RAM wouldn't hurt but thinking that more RAM on an Android phone translates to a better experience is not necessarily true..

Not really, actually the RAM consumption for apps on iOS on average is quite similar with Android apps.
iOS simply doesn't/can't keep many apps active at the same time so RAM requirements are lower in general.

The S10+ with 8Gb RAM base is a no compromise device from a RAM management point of view. I honestly don't understand how this could be viewed as a negative, especially when the S10+ is cheaper than Apple's competitor: the Max.
 
I'm most impressed with the $900 S10 with 8 GB of DRAM & "10-bit color" video capture.

To me, that's "the Benchmark" upon which ALL smartphones "should be" compared.


The XR, XS, & XS Max ALL offer 8-bit "HDR" video capture, which Samsung's newest do NOT.

However, Samsung's newest offer "10-bit color" video capture, which AAPL's newest do NOT.

Samsung's newest Blows AAPL Out of the Water when it comes to DRAM !

However, AAPL wins when it comes to (perceived) "trust".

When it comes to Perf, my 7+ is a Gem, my 2-year-newer XR is a Lemon, Go Figure !

Synthetic Benchmarks do NOT tell the whole story ! ... ONLY real-world application benchmarks do !

Very surprised that MR does NOT have it's own set of real-world application benchmarks !

Samsung s10 and s10+ have 4k 60 HDR10+ video capture and the screen too, plus hdr10+ netflix support as well - to be specific :p

"The launch of the Samsung S10 and S10+makes them the world’s first smartphones to feature HDR10+ certified screens for 4K HDR video.

Expect better brightness, more vivid colours and a better sense of contrast with the smartphones’ AMOLED screen. The S10+ can also record video content in HDR10+ as well."

https://www.trustedreviews.com/news/what-is-hdr10-3294683

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-netflix-961657/amp/
 
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It’s just different technology. Apple can’t keep the Face ID blasting all the time looking for a face while Samsung can turns of oled display but leave that area where scanner is active. Anyway I wouldn’t trade Face ID for fingerprint.

The technology, both hardware and software, aren't there for FaceID to work w/o the display being on. Which could be a constraint to people. People like TouchID, especially how you can just press the home button and be into an iPhone. You may not want to trade FaceID for a FP sensor, but there are some readers that might want that option. I want both available in a phone, especially with 3D facial recognition and an under the display FP sensor. Both should get attention to be the best possible they could be. Some might not want both, which I can see an argument for because it means more resources devoted to something that could be freed up for other items.
 
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That’s dependent of what your definition is of ‘killer’, but if you factor that they were able to execute the fingerprint reader under the display, you have to give them credit for that, given Samsung initially had issues that were rumored working on the implementation of that. Altogether, as an iPhone fan myself, the S10 is a nice looking phone with decent features, we can’t dismiss Samsung for everything that needs to be ‘Killer.’
If we're handing out credit for the fingerprint sensor, that credit should go to Qualcomm, not Samsung. Samsung deserves credit for 1. being patient enough not try to be first by using an optical sensor (which they had figured out how to make) and 2. recognizing Qualcomm's Snapdragon Sense ID chip was the truth.

You're 100% right though. Killer feature is subjective and differs for each individual.
 
Little confused because I thought I had bookmarked MacRumors.com, yet there's an Android review along with a request to provide feedback from people who use it.
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Face ID is fairly transparent, with the only requirement that it be able to see [most of] your face. I've been very impressed with how well it works. You need to actually use it to speak about it with any authority.

The other requirement is that you not be laying down, have the phone in portrait mode, and have your contacts in if you wear contacts. When all the criteria are met, yes it is faster than Touch ID.

As far as accuracy, I have never had Touch ID fail to authenticate, ever. Face ID on the other hand fails a few times a week.
 
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Little confused because I thought I had bookmarked MacRumors.com, yet there's an Android review along with a request to provide feedback from people who use it.

It's all about clicks and web-traffic. Plus, the site could get buzz from its patrons since Samsung is considered the iPhone's biggest rival in many major markets. People could also determine what they want in their next iPhone and try to voice their opinions on Apple surveys or via feedback when prompted.
 
The new S10+ looks like a great phone. I'm happy in the Apple ecosystem so Samsung phone's are not for me but I know a great device when I see one.

I have to say the Infinity O isn’t as noticeable as I thought it might be?

The screen cutout is a great idea, IMO. But some things are in Samsung's favor as to why the two camera cutout is less noticeable than the iPhone's notch:

1. There are only two cameras on the S10+ and nothing else. The iPhone notch house also the FaceID elements and that makes for a physically wide, non-screen area.

2. The cutout itself requires less bezel around each component behind it so in theory if the iPhone's front facing components were behind a cutout, the notch would be smaller.

3. The cutout is not in the middle, which is prime real estate that draws the eyes. The iPhones notch, being so wide, is more aesthetically pleasing centered. And if Samsung were to pick left vs right to avoid the middle, the right side is the better side IMO (righties hold the phone in their left hands, camera is more centered, there are more righties than lefties, yada yada).

While the S9+ was a snoozer the S10+ is certainly not. I now wait for Apple to up their iPhone game. Not that I need a new phone, but since I'm on the upgrade program, I'm looking forward to something interesting.
 
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Yep, specifications like peak CPU performance that no app even makes use of are far more important than something like screen resolution which is only used every second you interact with the phone.
Some would be happy with an LCD screen, but want a processor with very high peak CPU performance...maybe for use with mobile encoding?
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Android requires more RAM because it can multitask.

For me, multitasking is a better user experience.
Android requires more ram because it's more inefficient than IOS.
 
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Just making fun of the XR display.

I know the XR display is ‘knocked on’ from others on here, because of the (resolution and Apple still using LCD), etc., etc. But the reality is, I think the average consumer is perfectly fine with an LCD display, and the XR display looks really good from my own viewing. Keep in mind, if Apple had used an OLED display, that would’ve only increased the price of the XR even more, so in theory, the LCD display is perfectly suitable for the XR.
 
Some would be happy with an LCD screen, but want a processor with very high peak CPU performance...maybe for use with mobile encoding?
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Android requires more ram because it's more inefficient than IOS.

Plenty of people enjoy LCDs, don't get me wrong. But a lot of the major flagships have shifted to OLED. Apple, Google, LG are just a few to name.

Mobile encoding? That's probably a niche market if anything.
 
I know the XR display is ‘knocked on’ from others on here, because of the (resolution and Apple still using LCD), etc., etc. But the reality is, I think the average consumer is perfectly fine with an LCD display, and the XR display looks really good from my own viewing. Keep in mind, if Apple had used an OLED display, that would’ve only increased the price of the XR even more, so in theory, the LCD display is perfectly suitable for the XR.

The average customer is probably perfectly fine with a $200 phone.

The XR price is already way above phones with much better OLED screens.
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Android requires more ram because it's more inefficient than IOS.

iOS requires more CPU performance because it's more inefficient than Android.

(We can all say things that just aren't true.)
 
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I know the XR display is ‘knocked on’ from others on here, because of the (resolution and Apple still using LCD), etc., etc. But the reality is, I think the average consumer is perfectly fine with an LCD display, and the XR display looks really good from my own viewing. Keep in mind, if Apple had used an OLED display, that would’ve only increased the price of the XR even more, so in theory, the LCD display is perfectly suitable for the XR.

The S10E vs iPhone XR thread could be chaotic. I don't think the S10E should be compared to the XR because Apple made some interesting decisions on the XR: larger display than the X/XS rather than make the XR the smallest display in the family (5.8").

Rather, I think the XS and 10e would be a better comparison: 5.8" OLED screens, similar form factors, etc. But people will compare the XR to the 10e because of pricing and features being removed for a lower price tag.
 
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