Samsung's New Galaxy S10+ vs. Apple's iPhone XS Max

[co.ag.2005]

Let's just clear up what everyone is thinking: The Samsung phone is everything the iPhone wishes it could be. But isn't. Look at the engineering chops on Samsung. They packed all that technology into that little hole, just as secure and fast as FaceID. Also, look at how GORGEOUS the rounded corners are on the Samsung.

Nope It's not a faceid equivalent. Just the standard face unlock Android has offered for a long time. Unsecure and can be fooled by a picture. Go watch The Verge's review of the S10. Yes, the S10 is a fantastic device but just needed to clear up this point.

 

[nviz22]

Nope It's not a faceid equivalent. Just the standard face unlock Android has offered for a long time. Unsecure and can be fooled by a picture. Go watch The Verge's review of the S10. Yes, the S10 is a fantastic device but just needed to clear up this point.

I think it was a mistake about the Iris Scanner. That got removed. I am not 100% sure, but I think the S10 5G model may have a 3D scanner for facial recognition. I noticed Samsung put "2D facial recognition" on its marketing material for the main S10 family.

 

[Baymowe335]

The shadiness of the iPhone being charged by the S10.

How far have we gotten, Samsung phones are charging iPhones and Apple still won’t include a fast charger in the box? Also, it would be nice to put the headphone adapter back in the box....took me a while to find one for the iPad Pro that actually worked and wasn’t overpriced (P.S. the S10 has a headphone jack).

Apple please put everything back in the box.

S10 series >>>> iPhone Xs series

Enough said.

LOL, yeah, the charger really defines these phones.

A12 > 855
iOS > Android
FaceID > 2D Facial Recognition

 

[torana355]

Android requires more ram because it's more inefficient than IOS.

Errrrr, no that's not correct. They treat ram management in 2 very different ways. iOS saves the applications state and compresses the information into memory. Android works like a modern computer and keeps the entire application in ram allowing for true multitasking. Apple and oranges.

 

[Delgibbons]

The phone is cool, don't get me wrong but in the end of the day, you'll still find me utilizing my Xs Max much more. It's just an overall better phone and OS, and just wait until XI.

Yep! Any app that Samsung allows you to...

Which is not:

Google Assistant
Amazon Alexa
Microsoft Cortana

Ah but that's the magic of android .....

That's already been sorted

https://www.xda-developers.com/remap-bixby-button-google-assistant/

 

[Dephtones]

I like diversity but for me personally I can't go back to Android unless it was a pure Android experience. I enjoy Apple's products because of iOS and the updates lasting many years, and I'm not talking security updates. My only complaint is Apple needs to be more innovative but since they're not I don't have to shell out over $1k for a new phone every year.

 

[Baymowe335]

Same thing every year. The newest Samsung beats apple’s latest in some specs for 6 months and then the tables are turned.

But not that processor.

 

[44267547]

The S10E vs iPhone XR thread could be chaotic. I don't think the S10E should be compared to the XR because Apple made some interesting decisions on the XR: larger display than the X/XS rather than make the XR the smallest display in the family (5.8").

Rather, I think the XS and 10e would be a better comparison: 5.8" OLED screens, similar form factors, etc. But people will compare the XR to the 10e because of pricing and features being removed for a lower price tag.

Really my point behind my reply, was others that like to Snark on the XR display, generally which is favored perfectly by the consumer for what it’s offering as it is. Nobody (Average consumers) sits there and compares resolution/PPI at a store, when they’re really only choosing the storage and color that’s about it. But I gather what you’re saying in terms of the different models in comparison.

 

[Baymowe335]

Impressive hardware. Hopefully this pushes Apple to make a better iPhone this year. I feel like Apple really need to up their innovation in their products. God I miss Steve.

Are you more impressed with the inferior 2D facial recognition or the 855 that is still blow away by the A12?

 

[torana355]

But not that processor.

You mean the a12 that's got its ass handed to it by the s10 in various speed test videos And I thought ios was supposed to be optimised I think Apple fans don't actually realise just how fast Android phones are in 2019. Even the benchmarks between the a12 and 855 are not that far away.

 

[I7guy]

Errrrr, no that's not correct. They treat ram management in 2 very different ways. iOS saves the applications state and compresses the information into memory. Android works like a modern computer and keeps the entire application in ram allowing for true multitasking. Apple and oranges.

So virtual machines in a java environment are more efficient than native code? Or is that a mis-understanding?
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You mean the a12 that's got its ass handed to it by the s10 in various speed test videos And I thought ios was supposed to be optimised I think Apple fans don't actually realise just how fast Android phones are in 2019.

No, the a12 that blew away the competition on the spec2006?
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iOS requires more CPU performance because it's more inefficient than Android.

(We can all say things that just aren't true.)

If that's your take on it, please feel free.

 

[kis]

These are some good looking hardware. It will be a killer deal if Samsung commits to 4-5 years of Android updates to match Apple.

How old is your current phone if I may ask? 4-5 years old?

 

[I7guy]

Plenty of people enjoy LCDs, don't get me wrong. But a lot of the major flagships have shifted to OLED. Apple, Google, LG are just a few to name.

Mobile encoding? That's probably a niche market if anything.

Maybe, except this is a function I use imovie more than frequently for.

 

[torana355]

So virtual machines in a java environment are more efficient than native code? Or is that a mis-understanding?
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No, the a12 that blew away the competition on the spec2006?
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If that's your take on it, please feel free.

You need to educate yourself on how ram works, i can link a video that explains it if you like? Android itself is inefficient but the way it handles ram management is quite the contrary.

The benchmarks between the a12 and 855 are not that far apart and in real world testing the s10 is faster as proven by various speed test videos.

 

[MauiPa]

Tell that to my iPhone's that have bricked on the new updates or totally lost functionality with native apps until a full restore.

Why has this never happened to me? Are you just lucky?

 

[richie.cl]

Wallpaper of the XS Max?

 

[MauiPa]

You need to educate yourself on how ram works, i can link a video that explains it if you like?

The benchmarks between the a12 and 855 are not that far apart and in real world testing the s10 is faster as proven by various speed test videos.

And no one has ever mislead the public over those. Remember that clown that came to the startling conclusion that the Samsung in power save mode had better life than the iPhone in regular mode? so funny, I was going to run an article the Samsung beats the Samsung in battery life using the same terms.
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How old is your current phone if I may ask? 4-5 years old?

Both my wife and I kept our 4S until last year, so yah 4-5 years old. Still ran latest versions of iOs and were still plenty fast. Only upgraded when the original battery finally died and it was $69 to replace for an iPhone with no resale value (oh, that and we got a BOGO on the iPhone X)

 

[torana355]

And no one has ever mislead the public over those. Remember that clown that came to the startling conclusion that the Samsung in power save mode had better life than the iPhone in regular mode? so funny, I was going to run an article the Samsung beats the Samsung in battery life using the same terms.

They are real world tests and give a better indication of real world performance then benchmarks, that's all im saying.

 

[Blaze4G]

Are you more impressed with the inferior 2D facial recognition or the 855 that is still blow away by the A12?

Blow away by the A12 in what way? Benchmarks? ohkay then. I rather my phone perform better in real life usage than bench marks. The S10 is faster than the XS with its A12. But hey, you can gloat that you win in benchmarks while your XS is still slower launching apps and doing processes.

 

[Delgibbons]

But not that processor.

That processor that slows down until you get a new battery
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Blow away by the A12 in what way? Benchmarks? ohkay then. I rather my phone perform better in real life usage than bench marks. The S10 is faster than the XS with its A12. But hey, you can gloat that you win in benchmarks while your XS is still slower launching apps and doing processes.

The a12 and all it's power would be great at split screen + window multitasking and a Linux on Dex S10+ desktop like experience.

Instead, it's just used for loading Instagram and Facebook a bit quicker.

 

[Blaze4G]

That processor that slows down until you get a new battery
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The a12 and all it's power would be great at split screen multitasking and a Linux on Dex S10+ desktop like experience.

Instead, it's used for loading Instagram and Facebook

haha! What a waste. The A12 needs a proper OS to take advantage of the power. Not some gimped OS.

 

[MauiPa]

Errrrr, no that's not correct. They treat ram management in 2 very different ways. iOS saves the applications state and compresses the information into memory. Android works like a modern computer and keeps the entire application in ram allowing for true multitasking. Apple and oranges.

it is not apples and googles. who cares how they do it? it is user experience period. The Apple approach works great, so if it needs less RAM, who cares. And if the Samsung works great, but requires more RAM to do it, well it is not the same thing as actually having more RAM. The fact is that people are arguing over nothing. Both platforms perform well in excess of adequate and differences are measured in terms of "who cares"? Take displays, display mate has opined that the screens achieved a level of "virtually indistinguishable from reality" several years ago. So now if one screen is better, is it really?

 

[torana355]

it is not apples and googles. who cares how they do it? it is user experience period. The Apple approach works great, so if it needs less RAM, who cares. And if the Samsung works great, but requires more RAM to do it, well it is not the same thing as actually having more RAM. The fact is that people are arguing over nothing. Both platforms perform well in excess of adequate and differences are measured in terms of "who cares"? Take displays, display mate has opined that the screens achieved a level of "virtually indistinguishable from reality" several years ago. So now if one screen is better, is it really?

Because one way gives you true multitasking where the other is gimped and can only store an applications state. Big difference!

 

[Delgibbons]

haha! What a waste. The A12 needs a proper OS to take advantage of the power. Not some gimped OS.

This guy is rare... An Apple fan giving the s10 a fair crack of the whip.

That A12 and FaceID seems to be.... Er... Slower.

 

[MauiPa]

That processor that slows down until you get a new battery
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Incoherent babble aside, you do know your Samsung throttles as well? If not, do some research. Thermal throttling is a thing, remember the benchmarkgates that Android manufacturers, including Samsung, were caught in, where they detected the benchmarking programs and turned off throttling? If not, look it up.