It's pretty obvious wireless is the way forward in the tech world. Of course if you don't like that then dongles will be in your future.
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Samsung's Next-Generation Galaxy S8 Won't Include a Headphone Jack
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The idea of any specific technology being "timeless" is utterly insane to me, but to each his own, of course.
yes wireless is the future, but the technology isn't right there yet for now.
therefore, i would rather have wired earphones (unless you prefer clunky bluetooth headphones with a short / finite battery life and compressed audio quality via bluetooth transmission. Not to mention, you have to be bothered to charge it every other night.... i rather take some wired earphone cables to save all that unnecessary hassle)
there are far too many important compromises (to me) in order to have wireless earphones
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But you seem to be missing the fact that Bluetooth is still evolving and has been over the last ten years, regardless of your wired preferences. With in this last year, more than ever, Samsung and now Apple are making the transition to a wireless world.
That's fine if you prefer wires, but proclaim all you want, it doesn't stop the inevitable.
If you reread, I said "yes wireless is the future, but the technology isn't right there yet for now".
Actually, this is what I read and so did the other forum members. You're talking past tense, when "Many" years ago wasn't all that many. Hence, why I stated enjoy your wired capabilities for the time being. That was my
Point, not just the future of Bluetooth.
It depends on how you infer my opinion.
What i meant to say was that wireless charging was an overhyped fad from years ago (with low adoption rate by manufacturers and relatively low diffusion in marketplace, compared to what was speculated years ago) because there isn't a "relative advantage" that would allow wireless charging to become a destructive innovation and replace traditional wall chargers (e.g. charging speed was slow on wireless chargers, added cost of manufacturing, the de-facto and dominant design standards of USB jacks... these factors make manufacturers uneasy to make complete changes, especially low reception and adoption rate from consumers).
From the above standpoint and view, i therefore also believe that bluetooth earphones do not have the "relative advantage" (e.g. limited and short battery life, bulkiness, compressed audio quality, added manufacturing cost) that would become the next technological trajectory and replace traditional wired earphones. These are all very valid and fundamental design/technology problems and needs to be addressed before bluetooth/wireless earphones can successfully replace existing wired earphones on a wider scale.
See bolded above. Which is why I stated Bluetooth is evolving. Adaptation, evolve and expansion. That's where Bluetooth is in this cycle. Not yet is the "Advantage" over wired, but like anything in advancement, it's dynamic. There is no arguing that. Bluetooth and a wireless world is in the preliminary phase of what's to come. And this isn't
Some anecdotal theory, it's been made clear by the manufacturers who bring us the products we currently have the option of choosing to support. You have the option for now of wired/wireless, but this discussion will be much different five years from now. Guaranteed.
Yeah technology evolves everyday, hence my earlier point lol:
"yes wireless is the future, but the technology isn't right there yet for now"
therefore i won't adopt bluetooth earphones. For now
A thinner product is typically a lighter product as well. A thinner product is also a more useable product, because it's easier to fit in the hand and hold.
So I would argue that there are benefits. It's just either you care for it or not.
Then don't adopt. Did I not state to continue to use your preferred wired method? Yes, I did. But as stated, it WILL change where you won't have that option anymore. It's very evident and not based on my findings. Please don't cheapen the discussion by adding "LOL." It doesn't add or contribute to what was and is the point I made for the last two posts. Adapt, evolve, Expand. That's all that matters.
lol what are you so butthurt about? I acknowledged your point, I expressed and elaborated my opinion, and you repeatedly made points that I have already said and mentioned
Typical MacRumors discussion gone awry with juvenile commments. Did I not ask to refrain from cheap comments added to the discussion? I did. And yet, here are you contributing to "Butt hurt." But you're more apparently focused on that, then the discussion itself. But obviously this was to much to ask of you. Clearly.
And yes, I fully understand both sides of the discussion. Moving on to a more a constructive, two sided discussion without the snide humor.
Apple uses Lightning over USB-C as every device that is certified for iPhones will work on an iPhone.
If it was a USB-C port on the iPhone, people would plug in their USB hard disk, monitor, scanner, card reader, camera etc etc and wonder why it isn't working on the phone as it has the same plug.
If it was a USB-C port on the iPhone, people would plug in their USB hard disk, monitor, scanner, card reader, camera etc etc and wonder why it isn't working on the phone as it has the same plug.
The same source that leaked this also said the S8 will not have a home button and the fingerprint reader will be under the screen.
I got rid of my iPhone 7 and got an S7. It's a great phone. But if they ditch the headphone jack in the S8 I'll move on.
The headphone jack is important for me and I don't want the inconvenience of dongles and different sets of headphones.
Headphone jacks can be done away with. But majority of bluetooth headphones are crap. The ones that have good sound are expensive.
Maybe when bluetooth headphones gain better quality and price drops then removing headphone jack is acceptable.
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I'm not too picky about sound quality. But a lot bluetooth headphones have noticeable sound quality. It sounds like you are listening to music through a toilet paper tube.
This is what apple doesn't get. The alternative to wired earphones are crap.
Maybe when bluetooth headphones gain better quality and price drops then removing headphone jack is acceptable.
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I'm not too picky about sound quality. But a lot bluetooth headphones have noticeable sound quality. It sounds like you are listening to music through a toilet paper tube.
This is what apple doesn't get. The alternative to wired earphones are crap.
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The dinference is that this is not a new storage medium, it is the removal of a port from a mobile device. And it's a port that may decrease in usage but will not go away anytime soon.
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I know, they're famous for it. But they're copying arguably bad things about the iPhone.
It still doesn't get rid of the fact that people want a headphone jack. It has been a standard for a long time and wireless still isn't a supreme technology due to compatibility, connection issues, audio quality, pairing, battery life, etc. I am looking at the wider picture, not somebody's small setup because in that case it would be easy to move to wireless.
Well, the same can be said for cheap wired/over-priced Beats headphones.
Apple bought the Beats years ago -- despite their mediocre quality, the Beats routinely dominates the high-end headphone market. Nobody cares about sound quality, especially those listening on their smartphones.
I need a link to prove people want a headphone jack? You seem to be firmly set on your view.
It may be true that some BT headphones have poor quality sound, but for the past couple of years there have been advancements such as AptX codec which provides great fidelity. I think this is a case where, just like with wired headphones, you get what you pay for. Cheap wired sets sound bad just like cheap BT headphones.