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Samsung's VP for Design Offended by Apple's Allegations of Copying
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It's the details that matter. I just moved from iPhone to the G. Note. While they are similar, the Note is distinctly different, and, in my opinion, different in a good way. The iPhone feels very impersonal with hard edges everywhere. The Note feels sculpted and friendly, something I want to pick up more than the iPhone.
After reading Jobs biography and learning the agonizing detail that goes into design, the important differences are in those details. In that way the Note is nothing like the iPhone.
After reading Jobs biography and learning the agonizing detail that goes into design, the important differences are in those details. In that way the Note is nothing like the iPhone.
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The Samsung Galaxy with Android looks completely different from an iPhone. The phone icon on the bottom left of the screen is clearly a different shade of green than the phone icon on the bottom left of the iPhone.
sure
Whatever makes you feel better dude.
Anyone with a room temperature IQ (or higher) can see the Samsung smart-phones are a complete, direct, and blatant rip-off of the iPhone. Some of that is due to Android, but the skinning of the OS to look just like iOS, and the designs of the hardware to resemble the iPhone almost exactly is all Samsung.
Samsung even went as far as to ensure their cables and connectors are exactly like Apple's, except for making them black in color, cause hey, that's different. Yea right!
Whatever makes you feel better dude.
Anyone with a room temperature IQ (or higher) can see the Samsung smart-phones are a complete, direct, and blatant rip-off of the iPhone. Some of that is due to Android, but the skinning of the OS to look just like iOS, and the designs of the hardware to resemble the iPhone almost exactly is all Samsung.
Samsung even went as far as to ensure their cables and connectors are exactly like Apple's, except for making them black in color, cause hey, that's different. Yea right!
Carbon date the drawings 
I bet he made them working backwards from the most recent to establish his time line alibi.
I bet he made them working backwards from the most recent to establish his time line alibi.
Give me a break. Take both to a three year old, and he'll see the similarity without having to say a word.
What a joke.
What a joke.
What upside for Samsung in doing this interview?
What is the upside in doing this interview? Is Samsung trying to influence the general public? Are they trying to influence some lawsuit or regulatory actions?
AFAICT, they just gave Apple free information that a bunch of sketches exist and who in Samsung owns them.
No individual at Apple would act this way. One could argue SJ did, but he didn't give away information like this. I can't see an upside for Samsung in having their employees conduct this kind of interview.
If Samsung thinks they were wronged by the claims, they should seek remedy. But some employee's whining that he's offended doesn't seem to serve much purpose.
What is the upside in doing this interview? Is Samsung trying to influence the general public? Are they trying to influence some lawsuit or regulatory actions?
AFAICT, they just gave Apple free information that a bunch of sketches exist and who in Samsung owns them.
No individual at Apple would act this way. One could argue SJ did, but he didn't give away information like this. I can't see an upside for Samsung in having their employees conduct this kind of interview.
If Samsung thinks they were wronged by the claims, they should seek remedy. But some employee's whining that he's offended doesn't seem to serve much purpose.
He is adamant that the Galaxy is his own work, original and not influenced.
Why not make those 1,000+ designs and prototypes available to the courts with a time-line that would have to stretch as far back as before the iPhone was released 2007 otherwise it's a pointless rant by a designer who's under a lot of pressure by Samsung management and has been caught out.
If you can't innovate, imitate < His new mantra
Why not make those 1,000+ designs and prototypes available to the courts with a time-line that would have to stretch as far back as before the iPhone was released 2007 otherwise it's a pointless rant by a designer who's under a lot of pressure by Samsung management and has been caught out.
If you can't innovate, imitate < His new mantra
Sounds like he is trying to justify his blatant copy job. Anyone with any common sense can clearly see Samsung was inspired by the iPhone.
I'm only on Samsung's side on this one because I know that Samsung is ultimately healthy on many levels for Apple's continued success. There is room for more than one sheriff in the tech sector town.
The Nokia Lumia 800 shows you can do something different with smart phone design and still look great. Windows Mobile 7 does the same, as seen on the Lumia. That phone has far more appeal than anything Android has to offer because of that. But still far from enough to tempt me from an iPhone.
Copycat denies being copycat.
Big surprise there.
At least Steve Jobs never denied getting inspiration from an unsuccessful product at Xerox.
Big surprise there.
At least Steve Jobs never denied getting inspiration from an unsuccessful product at Xerox.
um yeah... and I bet he thinks Vanilla Ice didn't copy the beat to "Ice, Ice baby" either...
Steve Jobs quoted Picasso when he said, "Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal"
This guy copied and it's not even a good copy but at least Steve was honest about it.
I've seen these phones around and keep mistaking them for iPhones.
Steve Jobs quoted Picasso when he said, "Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal"
This guy copied and it's not even a good copy but at least Steve was honest about it.
I've seen these phones around and keep mistaking them for iPhones.
and another thing...
Look Samsung, your smart-phones are a direct rip-off of the iPhone, more so than any other manufacturer. We all know it, and your denials show it even more.
Do you know what is not a rip-off? Look at Nokia's Lumina phones. Other than being rectangular, they do not look anything like an iPhone, and the OS is also completely different in appearance, features, and the way it functions. Sure you can do some of the same things, like Facebook, but the implementations are unique (quite unexpected from M$). So, yes, it is possible to design a smart-phone that is not a rip-off of the iPhone. You should try it sometime.
Look Samsung, your smart-phones are a direct rip-off of the iPhone, more so than any other manufacturer. We all know it, and your denials show it even more.
Do you know what is not a rip-off? Look at Nokia's Lumina phones. Other than being rectangular, they do not look anything like an iPhone, and the OS is also completely different in appearance, features, and the way it functions. Sure you can do some of the same things, like Facebook, but the implementations are unique (quite unexpected from M$). So, yes, it is possible to design a smart-phone that is not a rip-off of the iPhone. You should try it sometime.
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In Asian Culture....
"Saving Face" is everything. How you get there (e.g. lying, obfuscating, etc.) is moot.
"Saving Face" is everything. How you get there (e.g. lying, obfuscating, etc.) is moot.
Would Samsung have ever come up with that design on their own if the iPhone had never existed? Let's see evidence that Samsung was working on their designs (with "thousands" of sketches) before 2007.
How embarrassing for Samsung that this guy calls out Jony Ive by name. Why in the world would you publicly state you're trying to be as good as a competitors designer? Even though he swears up and down Samsung doesn't copy Apple design it's so blatantly obvious they do - and mentioning Apple and Jony by name does nothing to persuade people otherwise.