Samsung's VP for Design Offended by Apple's Allegations of Copying

psxp said:
USP?? Do you mean USB?
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Nope it's definitely usp, it's another camsund origional feature. Sure, it looks like USB, takes USB plugs and uses the exact same tech and standards as USB, bot it's not ok, coz Samsung says so
 
original?

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naphatkrit said:
How's him copying related to him being Asian? Asian's got their own inventions.
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If you can follow this you will understand:

Historically, many societies in East Asia have been part of the Chinese cultural sphere , ... Sometimes Northeast Asia is used to denote Japan and Korea. ... indigenous

Now then:

4) Master Apprentice and student, and the learning system at large
There are some Joint Ventures with western companies in China, but in general copies you see are really just copies. Personally I think, this whole activity stems from their cultural background and the way Art and Design has been taught through out the ages in China.

Chinese Apprentice artists seek and hope to be taken in (ie looked after) for many years of study under a “Master”. Under tutorledge of the Master Artist, the student then follows or emulates the Master’s style and process. Therefore the master imparts his style to that student, leaving very little for external thought or exploration. Kinda like that 132 moves of the crane, crouching tiger hidden dragon jazz. This is also very much like in Europe during the Renaissance era, where students seek masters as they truly believe are that best at what they want to do.

Fast forward to today, this is also similar to (i dare say) most design schools in China where students come from a rote learning high school background and are thought to follow instead of think. At school they look to famous designers and architects as examples, and their work naturally becomes very thematic or contain the safest forms of expression. Furthermore it is expected that Schools focus on technical skills instead to thinking skills, as learning about creativity is about following a set way of doing things.

The entire article is on www.designsojourn.com
 
vito said:
well if he says he spent all that time coming up with thousands of designs and prototypes I'd love to see all the variations and know why he picked the one pretty much identical to the iPhone! ;)

Samsung and dignity :D :D
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Because Apple has never taken design cues from other companies.


Ever.

In their entire history.

Not once.
 
Samsung has been straight up ripping off other companies designs for a long time. It's not like the Korean government is going to do anything about it because Samsung is basically an extension of the government over there.

They have been ripping off designs of American, European, and Japanese microwave ovens, refrigerators, and other consumer products since the 1980's. This is well known in the industry and Samsung has always been despised for that.

Here's an example of how they ripped off the Motorola Razr back in 2005 when it was the hot product of the time:

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http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/19/samsungs-v740-wonder-who-theyre-biting/
 
The only thing with the Lumia that might be considered a copy of Apple is one of the colors they chose. It reminded me of an anodized iPod Nano. Not because the Nano and Lumia look anything a like otherwise. But this shade of blue is damn near the same color as one of the Nano's. And it was a color Nokia was featuring heavily. Apple didn't invent colored anodized aluminum but geez maybe come up with a different color that doesn't make people think iPod Nano? :rolleyes:

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Everyone posting here needs to get off their high horse.

Personally, the iPhone is pretty damn amazing, and I love my iPhone 4S. I honestly don't see how much different the phones can get it.

- Rectangular
- Screen
- Side volume buttons
- Top sleep button
- One home button or multiple touch/buttons for navigation

If it's not an Android in an iPhone housing, then quit worrying about it. They aren't advertising it as an iPhone, and yes, there are similarities, but again, from my point of view, if I saw that phone, I'd know right away that it isn't an iPhone...no circular home button and a crappy OS (I think Android is crappy, and yes, I've used it.)

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Rogifan said:
The only thing with the Lumia that might be considered a copy of Apple is one of the colors they chose. It reminded me of an anodized iPod Nano. Not because the Nano and Lumia look anything a like otherwise. But this shade of blue is damn near the same color as one of the Nano's. And it was a color Nokia was featuring heavily. Apple didn't invent colored anodized aluminum but geez maybe come up with a different color that doesn't make people think iPod Nano? :rolleyes:

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Is there a copyright on color combinations now? This is crap. "You can't have a yellow car with black stripes because it looks like Bumblebee from Transformers. SUE SUE SUE SUE!!"
 
"I've made thousands of sketches and hundreds of prototype products (for the Galaxy). Does that mean I was putting on a mock show for so long, pretending to be designing?"

Er, yes, I guess it must do.

Hey, I'm a designer, I make a plasticky copy of a design masterpiece, compensate for poor hardware/software integration by playing top trumps with the specs, and hey presto I'm a design genius and beyond reproach! Oh, and how's this for innovation, we're going to make the screen BIGGER and create a proliferation of models so that no-one knows where our phones end and our tablets begin. Take that Johnny Ive!
 
matrix07 said:
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Hold on there, the home button is square, the camera hole is square and placed in a different location on the back of the camera :rolleyes: If you steal the melody and place different words to that melody, then the original, that still qualifies it as a stolen song.
 
Konrad9 said:
Because Apple has never taken design cues from other companies.


Ever.

In their entire history.

Not once.
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There is a clear difference between inspiration and blatant duplication, if you're inspired you take that conceptual design and you just make it better not identical.

Which phone/tablet did Apple get design inspirations from or better still which technology company did they take "cue" from?
 
Samsung'd!

But honestly, I think every smartphone after the iPhone copied the iPhone. How come there were NO smartphones before the iPhone? And now that's all there is wherever you look.

It's not just Samsung, it's everyone.

There's nothing you can do about it, it's like Ford suing every car manufacturer because they copied the original idea. Well, yeah, they did, but that's how things go, and it eventually drives innovation.
 
While I agree that the Galaxy S2's user interface is a complete rip off of iOS, I have to say that the Android 4.0 Interface which the Galaxy Nexus uses is a unique design, and doesn't look like iOS..

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It seems that I am one of the few members here who actually has eyes that are capable of vision.

Not once have I ever mistaken a Samsung product for an iPhone, even at a fleeting glance. The size, the side and the rear are completely different (as in, there are absolutely no similarities there). As for the front? There's a piece of glass and a black/white bezel and that's where the similarities end. The difference in screen size alone should tell you everything.

And as for the Galaxy Tab series- if you cannot tell the difference between a square object with a gray back and a rectangular object with a black/white back(and SAMSUNG plastered across the front no less) I would suggest an optometrist.

I love my iDevices as much as the next guy but honestly the level of fanboyism here is hilarious.
 
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Well

There are a lot of posts already on this ... but my summary is ...

"What was the guy supposed to say?"

Quote: "Why yes, I blatantly ripped off Apple and Johnny Ive because I'm too lazy to do my own designing. Between golf and golf and whatever else us VPs are supposed to do, when would I have had time to design?"

I mean really! Of course he is going to deny it and be "offended."
 
AppleDroid said:
Actually not really. Google had alpha/beta versions of Android that looked similar to v1.0 before the iPhone was released. http://www.osnews.com/story/25264/Did_Android_Really_Look_Like_BlackBerry_Before_the_iPhone_

Just as the article points out of course the iPhone forced Google to make changes and adapt but it's like Android was born after the iPhone's release.
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Apple was the first to market then came Android, it was commercially available being shipped on devices after the iPhone release in 2007 AFAIK.

The iPhone created a new paradigm of mobile devices, and Android obviously took some notice of that.
 
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