BOSE, you've lost customer interest in your products, so much so that you had to have a competitor banned so only your crap can get shown. Pathetic you.
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San Francisco 49ers Quarterback Fined $10k for Defying No Beats Headphones Rule
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I work for a beverage company that does many deals similar to what Beats has with various pro athletes. We accept that whatever we get is just the player (there's only a few actual teams that we have sponsorship agreements with), and cannot in any way imply that the team has a deal with our company. So, for example, any advertisements produced can have the player, but no representation of his actual uniform or team logo or the stadium, or anything like that. Pretty standard stuff.
Now, admittedly, the other major beverage companies don't expect players to drink exclusively their product at all times, and its also easier to drink something without anyone knowing what you're drinking (there's no way to tell on camera if someone is drinking Coke, Pepsi, or RC Cola). But, at team events, around game time (like this situation was), we know that we can't try to get the players to be displaying our products.
Now, admittedly, the other major beverage companies don't expect players to drink exclusively their product at all times, and its also easier to drink something without anyone knowing what you're drinking (there's no way to tell on camera if someone is drinking Coke, Pepsi, or RC Cola). But, at team events, around game time (like this situation was), we know that we can't try to get the players to be displaying our products.
Then why does Sherm keep acting so stupid?
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I think you meant "Employees".
You can dislike his affect and actions without doubting his intelligence. Personally, I find him occasionally entertaining, but I grew up with an appreciation for the finer aspects of "the dozens" aka trash talking. As a kid my uncles would trash talk with us on kid stuff, like telling us our bones were purple with green polka dots or my sister telling my mom her butt is so big she had to wash it in the Pacific Ocean or my 6'5" uncle takin about how he had dainty feet and danced around on his toes to prove the point that his feet weren't huge (especially to a kid, although 12's are pretty dainty for a 6'5" man). Of course this was all done in love and everyone laughed and nothing was personal. I'm not as much of a fan of Sherman's trash talking because it is directed and personal, but that's been part of sports forever.
However, I f you can get your opponent to doubt themselves, you have a competitive advantage. Look no further than Ali, who was arguably as good a trash talker as he was a boxer and in the running for trash talking GOAT. Like Sherman, he went waaaaaaaaaaaaay over the line though, to the point where some of the things he said still sting their targets today, but you can't doubt the effectiveness. When he layed on the ropes and let Foreman, who might have the heaviest hands in heavyweight history, treat his body like a heavy bag and do what no sane person would ever do and let Foreman hit him, kept talking in his ear the whole time. When he finally asked Foreman "Is that all you got?", George says in interviews later, he said to himself, "yeah, that's it" and once he broke him mentally, he was able to put him down. Of course Ali was in the hospital after the beating he took...
The mental aspect of sport is huge. Back in my wrestling days, I think I only lost one match that I thought I should win, but if I went in with doubts, I was much more likely to lose. I pinned a guy who took 2nd in state because I didn't know who he was and was mentally ready for redemption because my last match was garbage. I pinned the Akron city champ because I didn't know who he was until after the match, but had I known before, I would have been in a completely different mindset and it would have probably been a harder match. Even in the pros, the mental game is real.
Sorry for the novel!
Kaep is an employee of the organization. They told him he cannot wear Beats, yet he did. In many other jobs, he wouldn't have been fined. He would have been fired.
I live in the SF Bay Area and recognize that Kaep is not a smart player. There are smart players in the NFL. I don't think he's one of them (anyone remember him yelling the N word a few weeks ago) smh.
I live in the SF Bay Area and recognize that Kaep is not a smart player. There are smart players in the NFL. I don't think he's one of them (anyone remember him yelling the N word a few weeks ago) smh.
If you were to try to walk into one of the biohazard confinement areas without wearing the appropriate protective gear that the university research lab policy dictates, you might get yourself fired before you could tell them to go do anything. Or have the CDC after you to lock you up in quarantine.
Many renowned World-class universities in the past used to require uniforms to attend at all.
Unlikely
The majority of players signed with the NFL before the NFL had this sponsorship contract. In typical NFL fashion there is likely some blanket rider that requires players fall in line. This non-profit organization (laughable) is tenacious in this sort of thing, but I am surprised the players union has not stepped in to protest this fine.
Way back in the 80's when I was in the ad-biz they were already unbearable to deal with. This demanding of obedience is a perfect metaphor for the way certain players treat the women and children in their life. You will do what the NFL says or it will rain down on you with pain until you comply.
The majority of players signed with the NFL before the NFL had this sponsorship contract. In typical NFL fashion there is likely some blanket rider that requires players fall in line. This non-profit organization (laughable) is tenacious in this sort of thing, but I am surprised the players union has not stepped in to protest this fine.
Way back in the 80's when I was in the ad-biz they were already unbearable to deal with. This demanding of obedience is a perfect metaphor for the way certain players treat the women and children in their life. You will do what the NFL says or it will rain down on you with pain until you comply.
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This thread reinforces the nerd/jock stereotype like no other. It's quite comical the responses some of us are giving. The funnier thing, most of the heartache is less about the players or Beats. It's about an Apple property being deprived.
It's pretty simple. Collective bargaining covers everything we're discussing. Collective, as in the NFLPA and the NFL mutually agreed to the rules covering everything from salary and player conduct to endorsements and uniform requirements. It also covers a whole host of other things, including fines for breaking the rules in the NFL.
Joining the NFL means joining the NFL union, which means agreeing to the CBA. There is no violation of rights, of ancillary (endorsement) contracts, or any other issue we can come up with.
Beats can do nothing. Apple can do nothing. It is what it is. Players like Steve Smith Sr. and Chris Johnson endorse Powerade. On that sideline and at that podium, they may actually drink Powerade but it will be in a Gatorade cup or Gatorade bottle. Just like they can continue to wear Beats but must cover the logo when representing the NFL. When they represent themselves they can wear whatever they like.
Just like your job has governance over a certain portion of your time, their job does as well. Moreover they agree to it as part of being in the NFL.
It's pretty simple. Collective bargaining covers everything we're discussing. Collective, as in the NFLPA and the NFL mutually agreed to the rules covering everything from salary and player conduct to endorsements and uniform requirements. It also covers a whole host of other things, including fines for breaking the rules in the NFL.
Joining the NFL means joining the NFL union, which means agreeing to the CBA. There is no violation of rights, of ancillary (endorsement) contracts, or any other issue we can come up with.
Beats can do nothing. Apple can do nothing. It is what it is. Players like Steve Smith Sr. and Chris Johnson endorse Powerade. On that sideline and at that podium, they may actually drink Powerade but it will be in a Gatorade cup or Gatorade bottle. Just like they can continue to wear Beats but must cover the logo when representing the NFL. When they represent themselves they can wear whatever they like.
Just like your job has governance over a certain portion of your time, their job does as well. Moreover they agree to it as part of being in the NFL.
if i was beats id send out a whole bunch of the headphones to all prominent NFL athletes now with a blank (unsigned...) cheque and a sticky note saying "
the day before this advertising deal between NFL & Bose was announced, BEATS sent the entire Ravens organization Beats Headphones. and the players went to Twitter to thank Beats.
This is ONE time I am on Kaep (sp?) side. He has a deal with Beats. it probably says to wear when on camera. suddenly NFL signs a new deal with Bose.
I wonder if he could wear BOSE but put BEATS stickers on them?
InfoTime's company probably doesn't require him to wear headphones. Just like the NFL doesn't require players to wear Bose.
So Apple is going to continue to pay them when they get kicked out of the NFL? We all see what Apple gets out of it. What do the players get? Unemployment checks?
So because they joined the NFL, they have no fundamental right? I understand your points about contracts. But what you don't understand is that contracts are not absolute, and certain contracts are null and void because they conflict with your rights. This happens to be one of it.
Amen! I think half of what I spend on product X goes to some damned sport or athlete that I may not even like. And who is a helluva lot richer than me. Half the cost of my Coca-Cola going to Michael Jordan (or whoever) pisses me off.
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That's why this is so "crooked". The NFL signs contracts for everything, down to underwear and socks. Beats obviously found a spot where headphones were not being locked down and paid the players directly. NFL responds by finding a counter sponsor since "headphones on players" is SO valuable now and they DESERVE a share. Players are supposed to honor the NFL contract "on the clock" which gets absurdly stupid in situations like this where Beats was clever enough to find something the NFL hadn't whored out completely first.
He probably isn't paying the fine. They're probably paying for it. Notice how the headlines all talk about Beats, not Bose? This is extremely cheap advertising for Beats.
No bud, you're wrong. Nothing in that deal says players have to wear Bose. It does say, when representing the NFL players will not wear display competing company logos. The NFL can restrict what a player wears in front of a camera because the players agreed to it in their collective bargaining. And no, that's definitely not how business works.
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why not keep wearing the Beats headphones and just put a Bose sticker on the outside (over the earpiece)
I know you're joking but players can do this. It doesn't even have to be a Bose sticker. Players aren't required to wear Bose. I don't understand why that idea is permeating this thread. All a player has to is cover the Beats, Sony, Grado, AT, Senn logo and they are golden. They never have to remove them from their head or neck.
The deal is that Bose is late to the headphone sponsorship game. Beats clearly beat them to getting individual players signed up FIRST. Bose goes to the management and pays management more money to tell the player to wear the other headphones. Now Bose gets an extra bag of dicks because they're TAKING AWAY money from the players that thought of sponsoring headphones first.
What are these rights you talk about? I think it may be you who doesn't understand. Players collectively bargain for the things they want and what they will accept. This is one of those things. It's not new. The NFL has had this right for a number of years. If they players disagreed with it they could have made it a point of contention in their negotiations. They never have.
Um, not really. Sports organizations having different sponsors than individual athletes is nothing new. For example, Jim McMahon was fined in '85 for wearing an Adidas brand headband w/the logo showing during a game.
You wonder why Bose didn't get more individual athlete sponsors but someone else might wonder why Beats didn't partner up with the NFL...