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I'll believe it when I see it. Still waiting on apple to pull the plug the last minute as they did with Xserve so they can focus on i-whatever.
 
No they can't be used in pairs. Apple using Xeons rather than desktop CPUs has no effect on the price. Xeons and Core i5s/i7s have identical if not almost identical prices. Mac Pros are expensive because the market Apple aim them for will pay the prices and it is a niche product.

Thanks for clarifying. I was always under the impression that the XEONs are more expensive but of course I didn't check.

In any case I would hope for a system that has a much lower entry level price but can be upgraded all the way if wanted/required.
 
Dual-channel memory doesn't even boost memory bandwidth all that much..... what's quad-channel gonna do for bandwidth, much less real-world performance?
 
Thanks for clarifying. I was always under the impression that the XEONs are more expensive but of course I didn't check.

I think the confusion comes from expensive hardware that has Xeons - usually due to being for enterprise and having enterprise support and better quality. Another is that dual processor Xeon systems are a lot more. For example a 2.93Ghz quad core Core i7 and Xeon 3500 that were $300, yet the ones for a dual processor systems were $1,400 each, but of course those have no consumer/desktop equivalent.

In any case I would hope for a system that has a much lower entry level price but can be upgraded all the way if wanted/required.

I think the issue is that they don't want them cheaper than iMacs. Apple have their own little eco-system they want maintained.
 
Actually digiloyd's new setup is not far from that.
Hehe, Mac Pros do sound amazing, but you lose portability :(

I'm looking forward to an update of the Mac Pros even though I'm not in the market in one.
 
Dual-channel memory doesn't even boost memory bandwidth all that much..... what's quad-channel gonna do for bandwidth, much less real-world performance?

Servers are the focus of this platform's development and there memory bandwidth and capacity (which just increased 33%) matter. Workstations and high-end desktops just benefit from this development, they pale in comparison to the revenue generated by Intel's sales for CPUs that end up in servers.
 
It's unbelievable how fast these computers are getting. I'm still using the 2008 Mac Pro 8-core and I'm finally able to utilize all cores and memory, with FCPX. I'm considering selling the Mac Pro to get a MacBook Pro. It's just as fast as my Mac Pro. I'm done with desktops and expensive computers. Hopefully software can catch up to the computer specs, so far it's almost there after all these years. No more Mac Pro's for me. Sorry.
 
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Sigh… Even the original Mac Pro sells for over $1000, heck G5s still go for about $500… I want that epic case… Tower Of Power…
 
ever used one or just reading tec specs?
the actual ones are still blazing fast!

Using one, it's a mixed bag. The speed and ram are still decent but things like drives being limited to FW800, USB2, and especially SATA II for internal drives are limitations for high end work, particularly when you want to use SSD and none of the drive busses are fast enough to handle some single drives.

As he mentioned, TB will be a big boost, as well as SATA III.

And the low end quad versions have long been horrible bang for your buck, hopefully they'll either make those competitive again or drastically drop the price. There's just no reason for that pricing on machines that are outperformed by imacs and even laptops now, regardless of the silly "enterprise" excuses.
 
Lets talk about:

Adobe anything (Master Suite)
Final Cut Pro 7
Motion 5
Maya 2011
Blender
Cinema 4D
ProTools
Logic Pro
DaVinci Resolve
AutoCad
Flame

AND (Most importantly):

StarCraft II
Diablo III
Portal II
Microsoft Word

Plus:
Avid Media Composer
Autodesk Smoke
 
Gotta bring the size and price of these things down.

My 2008 still runs great but its a behemoth. They should be able to half the size and still deliver the same performance and options.
 
I'm either going to get a 2011 Mac Pro or upgrade my 2009 Mac Pro.

Haven't decided yet...

W3680 vs E5-1650 hmmmmm

16Gb in both

6870 in both...

*drools*
 
Servers are the focus of this platform's development and there memory bandwidth and capacity (which just increased 33%) matter.

I guess you mean Xeons specifically.... the Mac Pros aren't really aimed solely at servers.

Workstations and high-end desktops just benefit from this development, they pale in comparison to the revenue generated by Intel's sales for CPUs that end up in servers.

None of this has a thing to do with my comment. The article said the processors are expected to be far faster in situations where memory bandwidth is important; however, going from dual or tri to quad-channel memory isn't going to do much in terms of real-world bandwidth.
 
I've got a bad feeling about this coming Mac Pro "update".

I think those rumors of a new form factor are a hint that the next Mac Pro will add Thunderbolt and remove some or all of the PCIe expansion ports.

Apple will expect pros to buy Thunderbolt peripherals that don't exist now, and may never...
 
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