not all the apps in that package can take full advantage of multiple core.
anyways cant wait to buy this on day one.
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not all the apps in that package can take full advantage of multiple core.
anyways cant wait to buy this on day one.
The Mac Pro is one serious truck among the cars in the Post-PC era. I would love to own one of these with 64GB of RAM -- you could memory-cache just about every file from the file system that you use regularly. The only thing missing is Thunderbolt. This is my dream machine though its hard to imagine spending the dough on one right now. It's like watching Porsche come out with a new 911 Turbo -- oh wait, that's a car -- I should have used a truck analogy. Oh well.
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You are certainly not one of the professionals, because you cannot even read MacRumors:
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/0...ost-sales-of-adobe-video-tools-for-mac-by-45/
I do not have a complete list of Pro applications which run on Mac OS X, but i'm sure the number is > 100. Apples FCP/FCS is only one of them. Not counting the Pro applications which Pro users use under Windows and Linux on their Mac Pros. IIRC Pixar, the U.S. Army and the FBI use Windows/Linux on their Mac Pros.
the Mac Pro is (or is supposed to be) a workstation. workstations and consumer desktops are not the same thing. Xeons are used in workstations and servers because they are built with higher tolerances and for higher and longer sustained loads.
outside of design and manufacturing parameters, Xeons are just i7s with ECC memory and dual-CPU support.
Haswell
Ivy Bridge is yet another evolutionary step. Haswell (2013) is the one you want to wait for. Haswell will be the biggest leap forward since the original Core2 Duo.
Ivy Bridge is yet another evolutionary step. Haswell (2013) is the one you want to wait for. Haswell will be the biggest leap forward since the original Core2 Duo.
You're right, the problem is, there's always going to be something newer and better around the corner
no flame wars, please. lol.
i have been reading up on amd, too because of my contemplation to build a budget gaming rig and learned about bulldozer from this experience. and i have to say that bulldozer looks good on paper. so good that i almost went through with my gaming pc and then realized that i would not be able to run os x on it, which is where i have already invested video and photo editing software. i would have to replace them adding to the cost. but, man, do pc's look tempting. if i was starting from scratch, i would be able to afford the adobe production sweet and a sweet gaming rig in one. oh, well.
anyway... what is keeping apple from using amd chips if they are both x86 architecture?
is it a contract thing? and if so, does it mean that apple could use and in the future?
i have been reading up on amd, too because of my contemplation to build a budget gaming rig and learned about bulldozer from this experience. and i have to say that bulldozer looks good on paper. so good that i almost went through with my gaming pc and then realized that i would not be able to run os x on it, which is where i have already invested video and photo editing software. i would have to replace them adding to the cost. but, man, do pc's look tempting. if i was starting from scratch, i would be able to afford the adobe production sweet and a sweet gaming rig in one. oh, well.
anyway... what is keeping apple from using amd chips if they are both x86 architecture?
is it a contract thing? and if so, does it mean that apple could use and in the future?
Well, one should definitely do that if he wanted to match Mac Pro price. But if you only want Mac pro performance, do you really need dual ethernet, xeons and even 1000w power supply (unless you need dual gfx configuration which is probably not necessary in most cases). Xeons have many serve-specific features which are totally irrelevant for workstations. On the other hand, Core i7 actually beats Xeons in [at least some] performance benchmarks as one can see here.
you should look at the matrox mxo2 series with max...
I just bought one and i'm pretty impressed with it. Instead of taking 4 hours to convert a video it took an hour and a half
Bring it apple... me needs a pro machine.
right. and xeons usually cost a lot more which is why the mac pro is so expensive.
but, if they use regular desktop processors like the iMac, then the mac pro or another line of a mac pro will be more affordable for budget minded fcp x users.
Those institutions can afford it. Whether it's a smart way to go is a different story. I suspect though that, given our budget situation, U.S. Army and FBI should look at replacing their Mac Pros with PCs (and I am sure that Macs comprise mot more than 1% of their computer park anyways).
I wonder if the Mac Pros will get a redesign anytime soon. Not that the current one is bad, but it's been like this for a while now...
i don't think they will. not sure. both use the same architecture so it would be easier for apple to switch, if it were to happen, than powerpc's. but i don't really know.
apple could end up going back to making their own chips.
After I built a PC which blazes faster than the single processor macs out there, I appreciate what goes into making a truly well designed PC.
I don't use a Mac for work (at home) anymore, but man the Mac Pros are some of the cleanest, beautifully designed machines out there. I love adding hard drives by just sliding them in. no wires to thread and hide. It's all there and beautifully crafted.
I saved money by building my own machine. but I know for a fact I will never be able to touch the build quality of the Mac Pro. If money were no object, I would have no complaints about Apple's desktop line (except perhaps the video card selection)
I don't use a Mac for work (at home) anymore, but man the Mac Pros are some of the cleanest, beautifully designed machines out there. I love adding hard drives by just sliding them in. no wires to thread and hide. It's all there and beautifully crafted.
I saved money by building my own machine. but I know for a fact I will never be able to touch the build quality of the Mac Pro. If money were no object, I would have no complaints about Apple's desktop line (except perhaps the video card selection)
Let me ask this.
What does anybody think will be in the $3400 (mid range) as far as specs go? Right now, that machine has these specs:
Two 2.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon Westmere processors
So, thats an 8 core machine.
You can also get 2 6 core processors, and I know through dell, you can even get 2 8 core processors.
So.. for this refresh, do you think the $3400 machine will still be 8 total cores or do you all think that will jump to 2 6 core processors and the top of the line will be 2 6 core processors?
What does anybody think will be in the $3400 (mid range) as far as specs go? Right now, that machine has these specs:
Two 2.4GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon Westmere processors
So, thats an 8 core machine.
You can also get 2 6 core processors, and I know through dell, you can even get 2 8 core processors.
So.. for this refresh, do you think the $3400 machine will still be 8 total cores or do you all think that will jump to 2 6 core processors and the top of the line will be 2 6 core processors?
maybe they will make a mid-tower mac pro with desktop processors in addition to a regular tower with the xeons?
like a big mac? a taller mac mini with pcie slots and extra hdd bays?
Blender is free, but the interface is odd. Once you get used to it, it flies.
As for interface, IMO Cinema 4d has the most intuitive way of thinking. Pick up the demo and splurge $100 on some of the "Making it look great" training series on http://www.motionworks.com.au/category/shop/cinema4d/
It's not training for making hollywood style visual effects. But it will get you started on using 3d in every day projects. Again, IMHO, C4d excels in getting everyday work done. One can push it pretty far before you need to turn to something like Maya or Houdini.
At that point, learning multiple apps is a good idea anyway. HTH.
Yea, for people who have real work to get done. Kinda tough to edit and encode 4K on an iPad or iPhone.
Hope so. Oh wait, I forgot that the iToys are the future of computing.
May as well wait for Skylake, it will be way better than Haswell.
high end - Xeon E5 1660 (12 core 2x config)
middle end - Xeon E5 1620 (8-core 2x config; option to downgrade to EX 1650 6-core )
low end - Core i7 3820 (4-core) -- $1799 (mid tower)*
*hey i can dream, right?
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you should look at the matrox mxo2 series with max...
I just bought one and i'm pretty impressed with it. Instead of taking 4 hours to convert a video it took an hour and a half
Bring it apple... me needs a pro machine.
I have the matrox compressHD card for my 2009 MP and it's wicked fast at compressing movies.
I'm just having an issue trying to find the sweet spot so I have 1 file that suffices for ATV AND the iPad1. Right now, just not working right and I need to have 2 files. Working with Matrox Support.
But the point is that the matrox line is fantastic b/c it's a hardware encoding solution ($500'ish for the compressHD). Now if I only had a viable Mpeg2 hardware encoding solution. doh!
Well... why the hell would the high end only have 12 total cores when you can get a high end Dell tower with 16 total cores?