Yeah, he mentioned it. An hour before you posted this drivel. Apparently you missed it.
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Yeah, he mentioned it. An hour before you posted this drivel. Apparently you missed it.
yeah he mentioned it 4 hours after his first post of his results - he mentioned only after a number of posts asking him how much space was taken on his hard drive.
that is the sort of information you want to know when you look at a benchmark, otherwise, like we saw with the results, you get an inaccurate impresssion
note 'alongside your results' - plenty of people will look at a thread once, and not bother following it up, and hence getting a mistaken impression about a benchmark
I have a new Unibody 17" coming with a 320GB 7200RPM drive, I also have a new 500GB 7200 coming in also. I will do an unboxing the hard drive testing program and benchmark it. Then re-install OSX fresh on to the 500GB and do the same thing. I will post my results when I get it so we can have a clean vs clean posting.
Just to help me catch up...
1) Are there any other 500gb 7200rpm drives out yet?
2) Would I be waiting 6+ months for a 1tb drive in this format? (i.e., 7200rpm)]
3) Does it still run like a hair dryer?
4) Battery life? (looking for experiences, not theory.)
1) Are there any other 500gb 7200rpm drives out yet?
2) Would I be waiting 6+ months for a 1tb drive in this format? (i.e., 7200rpm)]
3) Does it still run like a hair dryer?
4) Battery life? (looking for experiences, not theory.)
I'll have mine in hand tomorrow. Will only use ~80GB after I do a fresh install with restoration from my Time Machine backup. Will run an Xbench test on the drive and post results.
I think I'll move my entire iTunes library off the drive and then I'll defrag the drive and optimized the metadate before I run it again.
And I should have mentioned I didn't have much space left, but it didn't really cross my mind until a friend pointed it out to me.
Maybe I exaggerated a bit, bit it is humming and I can feel it.
And I should have mentioned I didn't have much space left, but it didn't really cross my mind until a friend pointed it out to me.
Maybe I exaggerated a bit, bit it is humming and I can feel it.
u simply cant beat this for the results it gives. the 500GB is nice and all, but who here doesnt have an external?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145228&Tpk=7k320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145228&Tpk=7k320
It's not about having an external or not; it about not having to carry that external around. I have a few TB in external drives, but that doesn't mean I need to lug it all around.
The way I use my computer, I can't really tell. It feel about the same.
Also it would take a few days I before I really get a feel of it. Plus a few more test subjects would help it would better.
There is currently only one 7200RPM 500GB HDD and there aren't even any higher ones planned to be produced anytime soon. If you are looking for 1TB, you might not even get it, because SSD is evolving so fast, that it will get there before the HDD and by that time companies will start dropping HDDs to drive SSD prices down.
Ordered this drive Sunday - should get it Thursday. It'll be replacing a seagate 7200.3 (320GB 7200rpm) drive that replaced the original 250GB in the unibody MBP.
The extra space will (finally) give me enough internal drive for a decent size bootcamp partition, and still have room for all my "current" photos and videos. I expect the newer drive will have the same power consumption as the 7200.3 (both are two platter) but the 500GB should be slightly faster due to denser bit packing.
For the person waiting on a 1 TB notebook drive: I wouldn't expect a 7200rpm (or even 5400rpm) 1TB drive anytime in the next 4-6 months. Current drives are packing 250GB per 2.5" platter, so a standard (9.5mm) notebook drive would have to double that density. It MAY happen with a 12mm notebook drive (3 platters, 334GB each, 5400rpm), though I'm not sure if they'd fit into a 15" MBP...
The extra space will (finally) give me enough internal drive for a decent size bootcamp partition, and still have room for all my "current" photos and videos. I expect the newer drive will have the same power consumption as the 7200.3 (both are two platter) but the 500GB should be slightly faster due to denser bit packing.
For the person waiting on a 1 TB notebook drive: I wouldn't expect a 7200rpm (or even 5400rpm) 1TB drive anytime in the next 4-6 months. Current drives are packing 250GB per 2.5" platter, so a standard (9.5mm) notebook drive would have to double that density. It MAY happen with a 12mm notebook drive (3 platters, 334GB each, 5400rpm), though I'm not sure if they'd fit into a 15" MBP...
I wanted to offer an early impression while I clone my hard drive using Carbon Copy Cloner... the hard drive is silent sitting in the enclosure with the top off. I can't hear it at all.
Now if I touch the enclosure, I can feel it vibrating which worries me a little bit... but the enclosure itself is on a wooden desk, and it's not making any noise or vibrating the desk.
So my early thoughts are that the hard drive is operating as expected.
Once I pop it in the mbp, I'll put the old hard drive in the enclosure for a personal comparison of how much it vibrates the enclosure.
But assuming you secure the new hard drive properly in the mbp, I don't think it'll be a problem.
Now if I touch the enclosure, I can feel it vibrating which worries me a little bit... but the enclosure itself is on a wooden desk, and it's not making any noise or vibrating the desk.
So my early thoughts are that the hard drive is operating as expected.
Once I pop it in the mbp, I'll put the old hard drive in the enclosure for a personal comparison of how much it vibrates the enclosure.
But assuming you secure the new hard drive properly in the mbp, I don't think it'll be a problem.
That sounds much better than it shaking the whole desk
Please let us know your impressions when you have it in your laptop.
Love me some newegg. Got here a day early. Will get started in about 2 hours on it. Just hope that Cox Cable gets my Internet back up and running. 2nd time those donkeys have cut my line.
Ok, it cloned perfectly (woot CCC) and took about 3 hours for 166gb of stuff to be copied over from my stock 320gb 5400rpm hdd.
First thing I noticed... is that I can feel a vibration through the body of the laptop. It's very faint. There's a far more more noticeable vibration from the side of my desktop, but then again it's not like my keyboard is embedded in my PC case.
Can I get used to it? I'll try. It's not noisy, it just feels a little funny as I type.
And, for the record, my stock hard drive in the enclosure (with the top off) has some vibrations of it's own but they are far weaker than the 7200 rpm hard drive. That should come as no surprise.
I did have a 7200rpm hdd in my old laptop (a Sager) and noticed no vibration so I guess I'm a bit disappointed that I can feel anything at all.
As for xbench, I went from ~32 on my stock hdd to this:
I've got 299.3gb free.
I think it's just a side effect of the laptop and 7200 rpm drives, though... I hope I can get used to it
First thing I noticed... is that I can feel a vibration through the body of the laptop. It's very faint. There's a far more more noticeable vibration from the side of my desktop, but then again it's not like my keyboard is embedded in my PC case.
Can I get used to it? I'll try. It's not noisy, it just feels a little funny as I type.
And, for the record, my stock hard drive in the enclosure (with the top off) has some vibrations of it's own but they are far weaker than the 7200 rpm hard drive. That should come as no surprise.
I did have a 7200rpm hdd in my old laptop (a Sager) and noticed no vibration so I guess I'm a bit disappointed that I can feel anything at all.
As for xbench, I went from ~32 on my stock hdd to this:
I've got 299.3gb free.
I think it's just a side effect of the laptop and 7200 rpm drives, though... I hope I can get used to it
There you go Caveman. Thats basically what I was saying - next time Ill say it in a more relaxed way
First impression as the drive is being restored. (Cox Cable took longer than expected) The drive is quiet. No difference in the acoustics between this and the stock Toshiba. No noticeable vibration either. Super happy with the purchase so far. I wonder if the unibody models amplify the vibration at 7200 rpm, ie it is hitting a natural resonance due to the enclosure.
My experience is similar to CLuv's. Drive is very quite and no noticeable vibrations. I do not have benchmarks, but starting applications seems a bit faster than stock 5400 - 320GB. (got my drive from Newegg - ordered Sunday and got it today with free shipping)
Cloning was easy using SuperDuper. I used an external SATA dock (Thermaltake Back X) and USB cable. Erased the new drive with Disk Utility (formatting for MAC journaled) and started SuperDuper Copy All. After copying just swapped the drives and renamed the new drive "Macintosh HD" for consistency. All is working fine on my MacBook Pro Unibody.
By the way - the drive was on a dock - mostly outside - no enclosure. During copying was ultra quite.
Interesting, is there place to put some type of material to help soften the vibrations if it is indeed that?
Some feedback after getting the drive up and running. A restoration of 68.69GB on the new drive. Restoration from a Time Machine backup took ~1 hour. Ran an Xbench test and here are the results:
Results 49.40
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.6 (9G55)
Physical RAM 2048 MB
Model MacBook2,1
Drive Type ST9500420AS
Disk Test 49.40
Sequential 103.14
Uncached Write 151.86 93.24 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 134.68 76.20 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 51.75 15.15 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 183.53 92.24 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 32.48
Uncached Write 10.37 1.10 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 131.84 42.21 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 84.51 0.60 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 136.59 25.34 MB/sec [256K blocks]
In regards to dampening the vibration in a unibody, I can't help you. I have a late '06 Black MacBook. I have a feeling it is due to the construction. As I type this I can't feel the hard drive under my palm. So that's a good sign also. No difference in acoustics or vibration compared to the stock 120GB Toshiba drive.
Results 49.40
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.6 (9G55)
Physical RAM 2048 MB
Model MacBook2,1
Drive Type ST9500420AS
Disk Test 49.40
Sequential 103.14
Uncached Write 151.86 93.24 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 134.68 76.20 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 51.75 15.15 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 183.53 92.24 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 32.48
Uncached Write 10.37 1.10 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 131.84 42.21 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 84.51 0.60 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 136.59 25.34 MB/sec [256K blocks]
In regards to dampening the vibration in a unibody, I can't help you. I have a late '06 Black MacBook. I have a feeling it is due to the construction. As I type this I can't feel the hard drive under my palm. So that's a good sign also. No difference in acoustics or vibration compared to the stock 120GB Toshiba drive.
