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Everybody knows Apple is slow to transition to change. I don’t think ‘ridiculous’ describes the situation accurately, but I still think the majority of consumers have no problem with lightning, except for like a small demographic that actually ‘need’ to have USB-C now.
Oh blah blah. It IS ridiculous that Apple hasn’t given at least the iPhone “Pro” the usb-c connector. If anything, all “Pro” models should have it. The iPad Pros have it for transferring data etc. So should the iPhone “Pro” models… & yes, the Air Pod ”Pros” as well. It just makes sense. It might not matter to the average consumer. But it does to pro users. And if Apple is going to charge Pro Prices, they should cater to this segment. Sorry.
 
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We don’t agree. For me, Lightning is a much better connector, and more widespread (at least where I live). For computers, the upside of speed (of USB-C) is worth it, but not for phones or smaller devices. It’s not a big deal in the end (I’d say 99% of customers don’t care at all), but I hope they stick to Lightning.
You tried downloading a decent length movie filmed in high resolution from your iPhone via lightning? FFS, lightning is dead, time to move on. They only stick to it because it is proprietary and they can make more profits from it.
 
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And if Apple is going to charge Pro Prices, they should cater to this segment.
What segment/demographics are you specifically referring to?

So by your understanding, Apple should include USB-C, because they charge ‘Pro’ prices for a devices that uses lightning? Do you think that slows down any general consumer that has loads of lightning enable devices in their home, because it doesn’t have USB-C.?

What I like about the Internet, it’s a stout reminder that you’re not the ‘norm’, you’re the outlier that the majority of consumers are not likely sharing your thought process, not when lightning is still very dominant, and has been through third-party accessories as well.
 
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I forget my AirPods Pro have a port. I got them at launch and I haven’t used it once. They should remove the port and make the rechargeable battery bigger, and make the wireless charging faster for those who need a quick charge. As for me I have a wireless pad on my iMac stand in my studio that I set them on during the day and I have a three in one charger for iPhone, Watch and AirPods Pro on my nightstand. I only wish my Magic Mouse had the same technology all these years later for crying out loud!
 
But this is the whole point. I think we can all agree Lightning is a dying port. Apple even pioneered USB-C on laptops back in 2015. Sticking with Lightning for no reason is just frustrating. And in my experience wireless charging is painfully slow on the AirPods Pro.
And wireless charging my iPhone 12 mini while navigating heats it up to the point where it warns me about high temps.
 
Everybody knows Apple is slow to transition to change. I don’t think ‘ridiculous’ describes the situation accurately, but I still think the majority of consumers have no problem with lightning, except for like a small demographic that actually ‘need’ to have USB-C now.
They weren't slow when in 2016 they suddenly said, y'all have to use USB-C on your MacBooks now. Not even a period where they include both -C and older ports. They dumped the clutch.
 
I don't why people pretend like this is not the case. Despite the "single connector" USB-C is an unmitigated disaster. There are more than a dozen different specs for a USB-C cable. There is no way of knowing why abilities the one you hold in your hand has.
Yes, USB-C sucks, but it doesn't matter with iPhones cause most of the time you just want to charge it. Whatever spec you accidentally use, it'll charge.
 
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Funny how so many people here want to frame the Lightning vs. USB-C issue as Apple wanting to keep their MFi royalties, or that they purposely don’t want to change just because they want consumers stuck using their proprietary ports, not realizing just how complex the issue is.
An MFi Lightning cable costs at least $15 when a USB one, or even a bootleg Lightning, costs $1.50. It's obvious why people don't trust Apple on this. If they actually wanted to keep Lightning for the convenience of users, they could be good custodians of that standard and lower the royalties to something fair.

iPhones never being charged is kind of a meme at this point, like Androids having horrible camera quality.

It’s really just this vocal minority of tech savvy people who forever want whatever has been pitched as the greatest, bestest, solution to some problem, real or perceived.
That sounds like Lightning. It's a very complex cable designed to handle a lot, but I've never used it for anything but charging my phone or occasionally transferring data (at USB 2.0 speeds that are slower than the original iPod which had FireWire).
 
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We don’t agree. For me, Lightning is a much better connector, and more widespread (at least where I live). For computers, the upside of speed (of USB-C) is worth it, but not for phones or smaller devices. It’s not a big deal in the end (I’d say 99% of customers don’t care at all), but I hope they stick to Lightning.
What is better with lightning? To me it is a no-brainer. Lightning may be more widespread where you live, but that is not gonna last long, even if Apple sticks to it for iPhones and accessories. Every other manufacturer use USB-C and iPhones + accessories do not have more than 50% market share anywhere. I mean, everything from consoles, to battery banks, laptops, phones etc etc come with USB-C these days. Even my electric toothbrush.

How is it frustrating? It's just a cable. Use whatever is needed and be done with it. If you're bothered by a cable, congrats, you have too much time on your hands.
Of course it's a luxury problem to have, but I travel a lot. I usually bring a headset, windows laptop, MacBook, wireless keyboard, power bank and an iPhone. Everything can be charged with USB-C except my iPhone, so I have to bring a separate cable only for my phone even though the other 5 brands managed to use the same connector.
 
Not a tech blog delusion — just fact. Is there another cable that’s remotely comparable in popularity?

95%+ of non-Apple devices use USB-C, as well as a number of Apple devices.

In what world is there a more popular cable?
Yes, Lightning. Though USB-C is graining ground on it.
 
You can thank the likes of Greenpeace for Apple's cable durability. "Stop using PVC!" they whined, so Apple switched to using natural rubber instead, which is less environmentally damaging, but far less durable.

Apple's latest braided cables included with the Mac hardware seem to be far better, hopefully they start appearing in iPad, iPhone and accessory boxes soon.
No it’s not Greenpeace. It’s the exposed metal parts on the tongue of the lightening connector. Sheesh.
 
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Wait, so you'd have to wait another 3 years for USB-C AirPods Pro? I'd just rather see them delayed after iPhone 15 releases.
It’s possible they’ll come out with a new charging case that supports USB-C without changing anything else, they’ve done that before with magsafe
 
Yes, Lightning. Though USB-C is graining ground on it.
iPhone represents < 20% of global smartphone sales, and about half of US sales.

If the year was 2016 when phones were switching from micro-USB to USB-C, you might have a solid argument.
 
iPhone represents < 20% of global smartphone sales, and about half of US sales.

If the year was 2016 when phones were switching from micro-USB to USB-C, you might have a solid argument.
1. "Sales" does not remotely correspond to devices-in-use. Your data is way off. iPhone dominates the entire smartphone world. The ones being actually used by people.
2. It has not evolved from 2016 as much as you think. While more devices are moving to USB-C, a shocking amount still use micro-USB, and of course every iPhone in use in the entire world.

Lightning and micro together are much, much bigger than USB-C.
 
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1. "Sales" does not remotely correspond to devices-in-use. Your data is way off. iPhone dominates the entire smartphone world. The ones being actually used by people.
2. It has not evolved from 2016 as much as you think. While more devices are moving to USB-C, a shocking amount still use micro-USB, and of course every iPhone in use in the entire world.

Lightning and micro together are much, much bigger than USB-C.
This isn’t worth replying to.
 
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This isn’t worth replying to.
Because you don't know enough about the topic to do so. You have this illusion about where USB-C stands and its driven by over exposure to tech blogs. A modicum of real world experience would show you that it hasn't even eclipsed USB-A yet, let alone Lightning. Or even micro-USB.
 
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Because you don't know enough about the topic to do so. You have this illusion about where USB-C stands and its driven by over exposure to tech blogs. A modicum of real world experience would show you that it hasn't even eclipsed USB-A yet, let alone Lightning. Or even micro-USB.

You’re right, it’s the tech blogs getting to my head.

God, for real, your initial argument is so goddamn silly and this retort is even more silly.
 
All cables break. I haven't seen one cable be indestructible.
Yeah, but the rate of breakage isn't even close. Lightning is known to be the most fragile cable by far. Personally I've broken 6 while babying them, and about 0 non-Lightning cables while abusing them. My wife is nearly obsessive about keeping her stuff neat and pristine, and even her cable broke from normal usage.
 
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