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Second Investor Dumps Shares as Apple Stock Drops to Near Two-Year Low
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Come out from your basement office much? Ever consider that possibly, YOU'RE the oddball? Unfortunately, the facts are clear that offices are run on Windows machines, not Mac's. You obviously have a one-man agenda against Windows (notice the correct, adult spelling of the word), so crusade on soldier!
Here we have the fundamental problem with any Company that goes public
- Sudden influx of cash - PLUS
- Investors who only care about how much money they make from their shares - BIG MINUS
There is absolutely no Fundamental need for ANY Company to grow from year to year; ask any corner shop who makes their money, pays their employees. If you can hold your own, & against inflation still be as good as last year, & that is the income you need, then mission accomplished for another 360 Days
This is all just a ridiculous perception that every successful company HAS TO grow every year, and if it stay static, or shrinks, it is a total failure, or about to fall
- Sudden influx of cash - PLUS
- Investors who only care about how much money they make from their shares - BIG MINUS
There is absolutely no Fundamental need for ANY Company to grow from year to year; ask any corner shop who makes their money, pays their employees. If you can hold your own, & against inflation still be as good as last year, & that is the income you need, then mission accomplished for another 360 Days
This is all just a ridiculous perception that every successful company HAS TO grow every year, and if it stay static, or shrinks, it is a total failure, or about to fall
You seemingly have a crystal ball to be so all-knowing and a very close friend of Steve to know so well what he would have done! I'm not going to comment on all the speculation/opinion of your post, but you seem confused about the ports/battery bit. People don't want 20+ years of bigger batteries or more ports. The batteries have become smaller and smaller with each thinner and thinner design, and less ports (down to one port on the Macbook). People just want some ports back and better battery life. The newer chipsets and CPU's have become very energy efficient, but we don't see longer use-times because Apple keeps making the batteries smaller and smaller.
Obviously what they are doing now (or not doing) isn't working much longer.
I think an edge to edge screen with all sensors, the camera an speakers behind it is pretty innovative, and that's what the rumours are saying. They will apparently get rid of the chins at the top and bottom for the screen, even the finger print reader will be behind the screen, like what LG have recently shown, it may even be their tech uses.
Yaaaaas, dump investors, dump! Since I hold no stock in Apple, I'm VERY eager to see how low their stock prices can go, and the lower the better. They needed something to get them innovating again - maybe losing market share will have to be the catalyst. Good things await, fall stock, fall.
Your comment makes no sense. Apple are buying back their own shares to try and raise the share price. It doesn't matter how cheap the shares are. Apple has no intention of buying back all their shares and going private.
I don't agree with share buyback program but I wouldn't call it corrupt. I would call downright stupid and a criminal waste of corporate cash reserves because it's not adding any long term value to the company.
Everything's fine in lala-land.
Really? Like what? OLED? Yea, that's cutting edge.
edge to edge display? Wow...yea...pioneers to be sure.
Apple has done nothing with the phone devrlopment, and worse they've stuck with a very lame design for what will be 3 generations now.
You mean "it will be Christmas Eve for a long time" didn't inspire confidence for you?
LOL this is the same cycle and time of year that the shares always dip and slow. These investors are ridiculous.
Working within a large scale international Technology Corp. where we deploy both Windows and Macs, our experience is nothing like your hate filled tirade. As an engineer that loves his Macs and enjoys his stellar Windows experience, it's obvious that your bias is emotional and disturbing.
Just a friendly reminder... It's only a computer
I find it hard to believe that these investors would freak out over a single market. China is China. Big deal that they are shutting down parts of iTunes. Apple is a worldwide company and one stupid country should not dictate the value of a company. If I was Apple, I would pull out as much as I can from China and move to another country who's willing to play ball.
As much as I love Apple, the selling off of its stock is completely warranted. There are no major growth prospects on the horizon and no reason to think any are just around the corner. I think this is an industry wide thing in general; smart phones were the biggest thing ever and we haven't seen anything that shows any promise of being a 10th as big. New platforms require new devices and Apple is a devices company. Without a new platform/device, Apple is left to iterate on existing mature platforms. I'm a relatively happy owner of an Apple Watch and even I would say that it is not a major new platform. It is, at best, a cool accessory. As much as everyone is pushing for VR to be the next big platform, I would argue that it's not near ready yet. The best hope is the Apple Car and Apple's biggest advantage will be their war chest, battery tech and ability to deliver at scale. But it's nowhere near clear that they'll be able to bring out anything better than any competitor at this point.
There are a hundred things Apple can work on, from streamlining their hardware offering to improving their OSs to separating iPad OS from iOS, improving Siri and making it work with 3rd parties and allowing text input, but everything that is practical and doable in a best-case scenario is still going to be incremental compared to the shifts that have happened thus far.
We saw the PC and the Internet come along and then were blindsided by how crazy and important smartphones could be, but i haven't seen anyone with their futurist cap on imagining anything that could be as big of a deal as those things ever again. My only hope is that tech, laws, and infrastructure coalesce to make self-driving cars with in-cabin entertainment viable in my lifetime. It's the only way Apple could hope to return to a growth stock.
There are a hundred things Apple can work on, from streamlining their hardware offering to improving their OSs to separating iPad OS from iOS, improving Siri and making it work with 3rd parties and allowing text input, but everything that is practical and doable in a best-case scenario is still going to be incremental compared to the shifts that have happened thus far.
We saw the PC and the Internet come along and then were blindsided by how crazy and important smartphones could be, but i haven't seen anyone with their futurist cap on imagining anything that could be as big of a deal as those things ever again. My only hope is that tech, laws, and infrastructure coalesce to make self-driving cars with in-cabin entertainment viable in my lifetime. It's the only way Apple could hope to return to a growth stock.
Or found a better mouse to chase....
Like oil companies who don't have interest in Apples direction.
But isn't that exactly what has happened since the advent of the iPhone? Even Jobs started falling prey to their new direction. Cook has been the worst at maximizing profit and not investing in innovative technology. They still buy all their components from other manufacturers that can meet their needed yields. With 100's of billions in the bank, they should be creating technology, not waiting for Samsung, LG, etc. to present the technology. They should be pushing the envelope and leading the pack but they have slipped almost to the back.
Jobs deliberately sold phones and iPads with less RAM than they needed so people would have to buy a new one the next year. They are also still on 16gb phones and they released a watch that sucks. Not to mention a MacBook reboot that is complete overpriced garbage.
Ive has got to go and so does Cook. People can argue all they want, those two have lost touch (if they ever had it) with their once loyal customers.
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I don't know how to upvote this more. I keep pressing the button but it's not working!
You are spot on, never be apologetic about it.
No, I know what Steve did while he was at Apple. I don't need a crystal ball to speak on what he did for years. He pulled the company out of the gutter and because of it many people gloss over everything else he did. He was a master at what he did but he did what he pleased.
Apple was already going thinner with everything when Steve was in charge. The MacBook Air, iMac, iPhone, MacBook Pro, MacBook, all thinner and there seemed to be no stop in the pursuit of thinner and sleeker devices. Apple started making their devices less user upgradable when Steve was in charge and part of that was due to devices becoming thinner. Apple started removing ports (MacBook Air) when Steve was in charge and you would have to be foolish to think it would have stopped there.
It was Steve who left Cook in charge of Apple. He knew Tim Cook better than any of us and most likely had a clue on how he would run the business. You think Cook decided to get rid of ports and go thinner once he took the job? That was Apple before Cook was CEO.
Too many people act as if Apple has changed completely since Steve left. I will admit that Steve could run Apple better than Cook and had a better clue on what was the next big thing. However the obsession with thinness, lack of ports, and long upgrade cycles feels exactly like the Apple that Steve left.
I'm finally earning more at work and we are hiring again. The housing market has finally picked up and by all measures I expect the US economy to be booming next year.
However, 2016 is not going to be a good year for Apple stock. Either you are going long or you are cutting losses now and plan to buy back after next year’s iPhone hits store shelves. No one is making money on Apple until then. It still has a way to go before it hits bottom.
I plan to buy more Apple , but not until October 2017 at the earliest. The 6 series including this next coming up were outdated ugly relics the day they came out, so we are not going to see Apple stock pick up until they are gone and buried. Even with the economy picking up, people are going to continue to wait out the 6.
Before the 6 series was released we were given a hint at how bad a state Apple was when they released the abomination that was iOS 7. The signs of no one behind the ship and releasing such a major downgrade on the visual front were there. Sure ios was needing a refresh, but when the refresh looked like when a little girl plays with moms make-up, then it's time to worry.
iPhone 6 was an incredible mistake that could undermine all the good that Tims done.
iPhone was way past due a larger phone and we saw there was pent up demand when the 6 was released, but it was such a badly designed product that was not only ugly, but dated the moment it was released. Samsung took advantage of Apple dropping the ball and we'll see if the damage of iPhone 6 can be repaired by next years model or if it's too late and Apple serously damaged its brand with it.
We'll see, but Apple will not have a bad US economy to hide behind next year. The economy will be booming.
However, 2016 is not going to be a good year for Apple stock. Either you are going long or you are cutting losses now and plan to buy back after next year’s iPhone hits store shelves. No one is making money on Apple until then. It still has a way to go before it hits bottom.
I plan to buy more Apple , but not until October 2017 at the earliest. The 6 series including this next coming up were outdated ugly relics the day they came out, so we are not going to see Apple stock pick up until they are gone and buried. Even with the economy picking up, people are going to continue to wait out the 6.
Before the 6 series was released we were given a hint at how bad a state Apple was when they released the abomination that was iOS 7. The signs of no one behind the ship and releasing such a major downgrade on the visual front were there. Sure ios was needing a refresh, but when the refresh looked like when a little girl plays with moms make-up, then it's time to worry.
iPhone 6 was an incredible mistake that could undermine all the good that Tims done.
iPhone was way past due a larger phone and we saw there was pent up demand when the 6 was released, but it was such a badly designed product that was not only ugly, but dated the moment it was released. Samsung took advantage of Apple dropping the ball and we'll see if the damage of iPhone 6 can be repaired by next years model or if it's too late and Apple serously damaged its brand with it.
We'll see, but Apple will not have a bad US economy to hide behind next year. The economy will be booming.
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